From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Mon Jun  1 09:09:07 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 09:09:07 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] symphonies
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Ah man's ingratitude indeed........does that Eilse include women's
ingratitude?
jeff
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:

> Primates, Jeff, primates!
>
> Weather wet, track soggy here at Blackheath. Three days ago the temperature
> at Mount Boyce dropped below 10 degrees and it hasn't deigned to come back
> to it since. Tomorrow is winter. Blow, blow thou winter wind, thou art not
> so unkind as man's ingratitude ... etc.
>
> --- On Sun, 31/5/09, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Gorillas ...more like two aging bloody monkeys I'd say Elise.
>
> Weather today in Melbourne town......started a bit foggy with me going to
> have my girlfriend so as she can growl at me for seeing her (at breakfast
> table).......it sure is a mighty fine thing that we do NOT live
> togrther...I
> would be a little bit dead if I .....7 BLOODY DEGREES
>  at a start of Sunday....a tiny bit of sun peeps thro' a not so silver
> cloud
> lining...I attempt to sing Zing goes the strings of my Heart to
> Ted.....does
> he get it?
> jeff...........from struggling to be Sunnie Brunnie
>
>
>
>
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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Mon Jun  1 09:11:02 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 09:11:02 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] symphonies
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This day (monday)
I go to see Wendy @ Pacoe Vale Hotel...to pay the 200 for our deposit!
That is almost all..........but pm I will bounce in der Brunnie Baths
....love is a warm pool Ted
L jeff

From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Tue Jun  2 09:21:50 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 09:21:50 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Sigurd and Gudrun NOT
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1812 it is and was ..I did worry about the date even tho' I kinda new
it.......sorta forgot..a senior junior moment of drifting off.
Now...Pascoe Vale.
I saw Wendy at the PV H....and a surprising thing occurred ..she just took
the 130 dollars and didn't want the 200 deposit.....this tho' I asked her
specifically about the 200.
So I waltzed
 out the door with a rec for thwe 130...and as far as i know....that's
it.Good ain't it?
So Mihkail   are you back from your dreamtime swaggeringas yet?
What is the next step towards Pacoe Vale?
jeff
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:

> Try 1812, and don't tell me I'm wrong about that Jeff. I've just been
> looking at it on a record (a 3 CD set that Ros bought for $1 at a garage
> sale).
>
> No, I'm afraid I don't get it. I know that Lloyd Webber plagiarised Puccini
> mercilessly. Let me know if you ever hear words to fur Elise. Of course
> Tschaikovsky (who said he was unspellable? nyah nyah nyah) used a bit of the
> Marseillaise in his 1812 overture but the French probably loved him for it.
>
> So much for Quantas. I'll try to remember the words for which Alitalia was
> an acronym - "Arrived late in Turin, all luggage in Athens".
>
> No, Jeff, don't cut out "love", but don't add "and kisses", that's all.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ted
>
> --- On Sun, 31/5/09, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> No the Happy B theme is from Beethoven! Bugger (note no F's) all other
> suggestions
> ....Beethoven rules here and my guess is as in so many musical compositions
> the sisters took inspiration from a deaf but not so dumb rentaholic.
> Examples see Russian composer's work ( Tsch unspellable one) the tortured
> homosexual and married 1805 overture( mit bells und der
> cannons..... one....the Ballet one.......stolen with 'Zing goes the strings
> of my ...see a plane taking off an older Qantas plane( see joke below) de
> dah dahhhhh.....repeat dah da de da dah de..........speed it up change the
> tempo I mean give it some pauses dum dum de dum dum dum dum... dumm  dum de
> dumm de  of my heart.......(again more dumming) and Zinggggggg  goes the
> Strings of my heart.
> Get it?
>
>
> >  Qantas joke.
> >
> Q.A.N.T.A.S.
>
> Queer And Nasty Try Another Service.
>
> Told to me by a Chinese Balinese ( called) Sin so aptly.... was a partner
> of
> my dead brother in a restaurant- Hotel business in Bali...many long years
> ago......why aptly?...Sin stole the business from my bro and his
> Bendigonian
> partners...see my Indonesian articles in Tilkal!!!!
> love jeff...
> hey I'm also waiting for you to ask me to cut out the love too.
>
>
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From krenon at y7mail.com  Wed Jun  3 07:55:45 2009
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 14:55:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TolHarndor] http://www.komonews.com/news/photos/45855337.html -
	Dull Would He Be ...
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... of soul who could pass by
A sight so touching in its majesty.
- Wordsworth
?
The above url shows scenes from the recent Hubble servicing mission aka STS 125 (iirc). They're wonderful shots, well worth a look or, if you take the interest I do in such things, a download.
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From krenon at y7mail.com  Wed Jun  3 08:23:26 2009
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 15:23:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Disney Fairies - from Pixie to Pixar,
	a complete demolition job
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http://www.disneyfairies.com/?completes the job that Tinker Bell the Movie (thankfully never reaching the theatres, only released on DVD) started, ie the demolition of fairies as any kind of ultramundane imaginary being. Having first stolen James Barrie's creation, who served a useful purpose and even?had a bit of interesting character, and turned her into a Disney logo, they (Walt Disney's successors - I suspect that W. E. Disney would not have approved)?now proceed to invent a series of names, which I must grudgingly admit sound a bit like the names of some of the fairies in Shakespeare's "A Midsummer Night's Dream", for her companions.
?
Moreover, the old style fairy drawing/painting, eschewed by JRRT and his children though not necessarily by everyone, has given way to the Pixar presentation, so now the fairies look like Shrek and Buzz Lightyear. Disney and Pixar are like a married couple who are always quarrelling but can never bring themselves to separate. Imho Disney is?destroying, or at least degrding,?itself as well as fairies, by this menage.
?
Granted it will at least make the old Disney animation movies more valuable (grab a copy of Fantasia, Cinderella, The Sleeping Beauty, Alice in Wonderland, Peter Pan and Lady and the Tramp while you can!) but I mourn for the future. Disney's fairies will never make it to Faerie.
?


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From dryad0404 at yahoo.co.uk  Wed Jun  3 08:35:33 2009
From: dryad0404 at yahoo.co.uk (dryad)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 15:35:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TolHarndor] http://www.komonews.com/news/photos/45855337.html
	- Dull Would He Be ...
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Wow! you could see la florida! So cool. Thanks!
Elise

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From: Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com>
Subject: [TolHarndor] http://www.komonews.com/news/photos/45855337.html - Dull Would He Be ...
To: "Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society" <list at tolharndor.org>
Date: Tuesday, 2 June, 2009, 5:55 PM


... of soul who could pass by
A sight so touching in its majesty.
- Wordsworth
?
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?


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From dryad0404 at yahoo.co.uk  Wed Jun  3 08:39:23 2009
From: dryad0404 at yahoo.co.uk (dryad)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 15:39:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Disney Fairies - from Pixie to Pixar,
	a complete demolition job
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I view anything disney-fied as an abhorration. Sadly, both mum and sis work for the mouse and love it. meh. If only they (Disney)?knew more about the sidhe, they might think faeries were so cute or loveable....and certainly not so, *snort*, human!
?
Elise

--- On Tue, 2/6/09, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:


From: Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com>
Subject: [TolHarndor] Disney Fairies - from Pixie to Pixar, a complete demolition job
To: "Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society" <list at tolharndor.org>
Date: Tuesday, 2 June, 2009, 6:23 PM


http://www.disneyfairies.com/?completes the job that Tinker Bell the Movie (thankfully never reaching the theatres, only released on DVD) started, ie the demolition of fairies as any kind of ultramundane imaginary being. Having first stolen James Barrie's creation, who served a useful purpose and even?had a bit of interesting character, and turned her into a Disney logo, they (Walt Disney's successors - I suspect that W. E. Disney would not have approved)?now proceed to invent a series of names, which I must grudgingly admit sound a bit like the names of some of the fairies in Shakespeare's "A Midsummer Night's Dream", for her companions.
?
Moreover, the old style fairy drawing/painting, eschewed by JRRT and his children though not necessarily by everyone, has given way to the Pixar presentation, so now the fairies look like Shrek and Buzz Lightyear. Disney and Pixar are like a married couple who are always quarrelling but can never bring themselves to separate. Imho Disney is?destroying, or at least degrding,?itself as well as fairies, by this menage.
?
Granted it will at least make the old Disney animation movies more valuable (grab a copy of Fantasia, Cinderella, The Sleeping Beauty, Alice in Wonderland, Peter Pan and Lady and the Tramp while you can!) but I mourn for the future. Disney's fairies will never make it to Faerie.
?


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From dragon at roots-boots.net  Wed Jun  3 08:49:28 2009
From: dragon at roots-boots.net (David Powell)
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 08:49:28 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Disney Fairies - from Pixie to Pixar,
	a complete	demolition job
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Quoting Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com>:

As tragic (or not) as the diminishing of fairies may be, it is nothing  
new. Most mythological creatures have suffered a similar fate and not  
always at the hands of homo celluloidus. Elves today are the sickenly  
"cute" helpers of santa. True, that's a more recent debasement. A  
classic pre-20th century debasement would be the leprechauns of  
Ireland who were once the sidhe, an race of immortal warriors and  
magicians somewhere between humanity and the gods. By Victorian times  
they had been reduced to the level of pixies that frolicked in the  
fields at night, drank saucers of milk and cleaned your boots if you  
left them at the door. A far cry from a race that the early Irish were  
in awe and fear of.

cheers,
David


> http://www.disneyfairies.com/?completes the job that Tinker Bell the  
>  Movie (thankfully never reaching the theatres, only released on  
> DVD)  started, ie the demolition of fairies as any kind of  
> ultramundane  imaginary being. Having first stolen James Barrie's  
> creation, who  served a useful purpose and even?had a bit of  
> interesting character,  and turned her into a Disney logo, they  
> (Walt Disney's successors -  I suspect that W. E. Disney would not  
> have approved)?now proceed to  invent a series of names, which I  
> must grudgingly admit sound a bit  like the names of some of the  
> fairies in Shakespeare's "A Midsummer  Night's Dream", for her  
> companions.
> ?
> Moreover, the old style fairy drawing/painting, eschewed by JRRT and  
>  his children though not necessarily by everyone, has given way to   
> the Pixar presentation, so now the fairies look like Shrek and Buzz   
> Lightyear. Disney and Pixar are like a married couple who are always  
>  quarrelling but can never bring themselves to separate. Imho Disney  
>  is?destroying, or at least degrding,?itself as well as fairies, by   
> this menage.
> ?
> Granted it will at least make the old Disney animation movies more   
> valuable (grab a copy of Fantasia, Cinderella, The Sleeping Beauty,   
> Alice in Wonderland, Peter Pan and Lady and the Tramp while you   
> can!) but I mourn for the future. Disney's fairies will never make   
> it to Faerie.
> ?
>
>
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From krenon at y7mail.com  Wed Jun  3 10:44:33 2009
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 17:44:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Disney Fairies - from Pixie to Pixar,
	a complete demolition job
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Abhorration! Is that a Carrollian portmanteau word composed of abhorrence and abomination? I like it! While I won't dignify Disney with unqualified praise, yet I must say that the early full length animation movies, especially Fantasia (but not the sequel) impressed me. Most of them avoided the "cartoon violence" that characterises Warner Bros. Lady and the Tramp is my favourite. That was, I think, the only one that didn't take a well known story (it was a menage of two stories). It did, of course, portray dogs as human but in a way that was both fun and in a sense dignified.

With "Fantasia", Disney kick-started the firm, now huge and not as good as it was once, Hewlett-Packard. In San Jos?'s "The Tech" a museum of technology largely aimed at children, there is a picture of the garage door behind which Hewlett and Packard started their business. Their first big commission was from Disney to design equipment for doing the animation in Fantasia.

My father once "worked for the mouse" in that he was in an advertising agency that handled Disney business. He had a bit to do with a competition they held to mark the opening of Disneyland in 1955.

--- On Wed, 3/6/09, dryad <dryad0404 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:



I view anything disney-fied as an abhorration. Sadly, both mum and sis work for the mouse and love it. meh. If only they (Disney)?knew more about the sidhe, they might think faeries were so cute or loveable....and certainly not so, *snort*, human!
?
Elise





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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Thu Jun  4 14:14:10 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 14:14:10 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Disney Fairies - from Pixie to Pixar,
	a complete 	demolition job
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I'm away with the pixie(s)
DB agrred to come to Yarra with me ....we are staying with mum now...weather
report raining sorta when we left Melb.....354 ks up the road and on the
Murray the weather lifted...Lake is draining out (tis deliberate at the
moment for they are trying to kill off the algae).
No sign of faerie folk here     but a tiny tinge o' the green about the
land  ...at long last!...amazing they had rain here at least 2 and a half
times in the last week.
jeff

On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:

> Abhorration! Is that a Carrollian portmanteau word composed of abhorrence
> and abomination? I like it! While I won't dignify Disney with unqualified
> praise, yet I must say that the early full length animation movies,
> especially Fantasia (but not the sequel) impressed me. Most of them avoided
> the "cartoon violence" that characterises Warner Bros. Lady and the Tramp is
> my favourite. That was, I think, the only one that didn't take a well known
> story (it was a menage of two stories). It did, of course, portray dogs as
> human but in a way that was both fun and in a sense dignified.
>
> With "Fantasia", Disney kick-started the firm, now huge and not as good as
> it was once, Hewlett-Packard. In San Jos?'s "The Tech" a museum of
> technology largely aimed at children, there is a picture of the garage door
> behind which Hewlett and Packard started their business. Their first big
> commission was from Disney to design equipment for doing the animation in
> Fantasia.
>
> My father once "worked for the mouse" in that he was in an advertising
> agency that handled Disney business. He had a bit to do with a competition
> they held to mark the opening of Disneyland in 1955.
>
> --- On Wed, 3/6/09, dryad <dryad0404 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
> I view anything disney-fied as an abhorration. Sadly, both mum and sis work
> for the mouse and love it. meh. If only they (Disney) knew more about the
> sidhe, they might think faeries were so cute or loveable....and certainly
> not so, *snort*, human!
>
> Elise
>
>
>
>
>
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From krenon at y7mail.com  Thu Jun  4 17:03:27 2009
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 00:03:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Disney Fairies - from Pixie to Pixar,
	a complete  demolition job
Message-ID: <570752.93543.qm@web110212.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hume? So they're letting all the algae (blue-green, ie cyanophytes?) go downstream? That's nice of them - not.
?
The green is good. The lack of faerie folk - they're probably all in the West Indies - that's where I think the Never Land of J. M. Barrie is located.
?
The word for the day - and maybe rather longer than the day - is - wait for it...
?
Senecio
?
Watch this space. Bigger things may follow. But maybe not for a while.
?
Cheers,
?
Ted

--- On Thu, 4/6/09, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:




I'm away with the pixie(s)
DB agrred to come to Yarra with me ....we are staying with mum now...weather
report raining sorta when we left Melb.....354 ks up the road and on the
Murray the weather lifted...Lake is draining out (tis deliberate at the
moment for they are trying to kill off the algae).
No sign of faerie folk here? ???but a tiny tinge o' the green about the
land? ...at long last!...amazing they had rain here at least 2 and a half
times in the last week.
jeff




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From krenon at y7mail.com  Thu Jun  4 21:50:10 2009
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 04:50:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Death of David Eddings
Message-ID: <25551.71126.qm@web110205.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I just posted this on the current Australian Science Fiction Bullsheet ( http://www.bullsheet.sf.org.au/bullsheet_87.html?). There was no indication of the cause of death on either of the two web sites I looked at.
?
Herendil
?


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From chriswoodhams at gmail.com  Thu Jun  4 22:03:43 2009
From: chriswoodhams at gmail.com (Christine Woodhams)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 20:03:43 +0800
Subject: [TolHarndor] Death of David Eddings
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Oh :(
I read Eddings obsessively in my early teens - he's on of maybe 4 or 5
authors that really shaped my adolescent literary world. And I still love
his books, although I don't quite think they're the genius I thought they
were when I was 13! ;)

A sad loss, but he was 77 . . . one tends to forget that people get old!

Christine

2009/6/4 Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com>

> I just posted this on the current Australian Science Fiction Bullsheet (
> http://www.bullsheet.sf.org.au/bullsheet_87.html ). There was no
> indication of the cause of death on either of the two web sites I looked at.
>
> Herendil
>
>
>
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Education.

"All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us." -
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From chriswoodhams at gmail.com  Thu Jun  4 22:10:05 2009
From: chriswoodhams at gmail.com (Christine Woodhams)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 20:10:05 +0800
Subject: [TolHarndor] Death of David Eddings
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	<9e4c16540906040503i3eef0760xd94404824728abb4@mail.gmail.com>
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This article says he died of natural causes and had been suffering dementia:
http://www.nevadaappeal.com/article/20090604/NEWS/906039854/1070&ParentProfile=1058


2009/6/4 Christine Woodhams <chriswoodhams at gmail.com>

> Oh :(
> I read Eddings obsessively in my early teens - he's on of maybe 4 or 5
> authors that really shaped my adolescent literary world. And I still love
> his books, although I don't quite think they're the genius I thought they
> were when I was 13! ;)
>
> A sad loss, but he was 77 . . . one tends to forget that people get old!
>
> Christine
>
> 2009/6/4 Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com>
>
> I just posted this on the current Australian Science Fiction Bullsheet (
>> http://www.bullsheet.sf.org.au/bullsheet_87.html ). There was no
>> indication of the cause of death on either of the two web sites I looked at.
>>
>> Herendil
>>
>>
>>
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>
>
> --
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> BA (Hons) Archeology, Grad Dip Applied Heritage Studies, Grad Dip Primary
> Education.
>
> "All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us." -
> J.R.R. Tolkien.
>



-- 
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Education.

"All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us." -
J.R.R. Tolkien.

From dryad0404 at yahoo.co.uk  Fri Jun  5 11:53:21 2009
From: dryad0404 at yahoo.co.uk (dryad)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 18:53:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Disney Fairies - from Pixie to Pixar,
	a complete demolition job
Message-ID: <110743.72256.qm@web24601.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

So, we are related sort of?? LOL. ty. ty. I love portmanteaus....hehehhe
Elise

--- On Tue, 2/6/09, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:


From: Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com>
Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Disney Fairies - from Pixie to Pixar, a complete demolition job
To: "Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society" <list at tolharndor.org>
Date: Tuesday, 2 June, 2009, 8:44 PM


Abhorration! Is that a Carrollian portmanteau word composed of abhorrence and abomination? I like it! While I won't dignify Disney with unqualified praise, yet I must say that the early full length animation movies, especially Fantasia (but not the sequel) impressed me. Most of them avoided the "cartoon violence" that characterises Warner Bros. Lady and the Tramp is my favourite. That was, I think, the only one that didn't take a well known story (it was a menage of two stories). It did, of course, portray dogs as human but in a way that was both fun and in a sense dignified.

With "Fantasia", Disney kick-started the firm, now huge and not as good as it was once, Hewlett-Packard. In San Jos?'s "The Tech" a museum of technology largely aimed at children, there is a picture of the garage door behind which Hewlett and Packard started their business. Their first big commission was from Disney to design equipment for doing the animation in Fantasia.

My father once "worked for the mouse" in that he was in an advertising agency that handled Disney business. He had a bit to do with a competition they held to mark the opening of Disneyland in 1955.

--- On Wed, 3/6/09, dryad <dryad0404 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:



I view anything disney-fied as an abhorration. Sadly, both mum and sis work for the mouse and love it. meh. If only they (Disney)?knew more about the sidhe, they might think faeries were so cute or loveable....and certainly not so, *snort*, human!
?
Elise





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From krenon at y7mail.com  Fri Jun  5 16:00:05 2009
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 23:00:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Disney Fairies - from Pixie to Pixar,
	a complete demolition job
Message-ID: <468194.58490.qm@web110201.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

You're welcome. If I can think up a few good ones I'll let you know.


--- On Fri, 5/6/09, dryad <dryad0404 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:


So, we are related sort of?? LOL. ty. ty. I love portmanteaus....hehehhe
Elise





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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Sun Jun  7 09:24:15 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 09:24:15 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Death of David Eddings
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	<9e4c16540906040503i3eef0760xd94404824728abb4@mail.gmail.com>
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77 ........mmm does not seem that old when you a tiny bit less than 9 years
off that Ms Woodhams.....
jeff

On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 10:03 PM, Christine Woodhams <chriswoodhams at gmail.com
> wrote:

> Oh :(
> I read Eddings obsessively in my early teens - he's on of maybe 4 or 5
> authors that really shaped my adolescent literary world. And I still love
> his books, although I don't quite think they're the genius I thought they
> were when I was 13! ;)
>
> A sad loss, but he was 77 . . . one tends to forget that people get old!
>
> Christine
>
> 2009/6/4 Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com>
>
> > I just posted this on the current Australian Science Fiction Bullsheet (
> > http://www.bullsheet.sf.org.au/bullsheet_87.html ). There was no
> > indication of the cause of death on either of the two web sites I looked
> at.
> >
> > Herendil
> >
> >
> >
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>
>
> --
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> BA (Hons) Archeology, Grad Dip Applied Heritage Studies, Grad Dip Primary
> Education.
>
> "All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us." -
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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Sun Jun  7 09:31:03 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 09:31:03 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Disney Fairies - from Pixie to Pixar,
	a complete 	demolition job
In-Reply-To: <570752.93543.qm@web110212.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <570752.93543.qm@web110212.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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No Ted .....not the Hume (up the hume highway)...to Benella and then by a
country road to Yarrawonga-Mulwala  and not letting b g algae go (from Lake
Mulwala) , no, no,yes but they are trying to allow the b g a dry (out of the
water) and let frosts kill it off......so legend around Yarrawonga has
it.....You might confirm or deniythe science of it one (senecio)
jeff
cannot be related to Seneca but will be related to semester and also to
sennight I assume?
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:

> Hume? So they're letting all the algae (blue-green, ie cyanophytes?) go
> downstream? That's nice of them - not.
>
> The green is good. The lack of faerie folk - they're probably all in the
> West Indies - that's where I think the Never Land of J. M. Barrie is
> located.
>
> The word for the day - and maybe rather longer than the day - is - wait for
> it...
>
> Senecio
>
> Watch this space. Bigger things may follow. But maybe not for a while.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ted
>
> --- On Thu, 4/6/09, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> I'm away with the pixie(s)
> DB agrred to come to Yarra with me ....we are staying with mum
> now...weather
> report raining sorta when we left Melb.....354 ks up the road and on the
> Murray the weather lifted...Lake is draining out (tis deliberate at the
> moment for they are trying to kill off the algae).
> No sign of faerie folk here     but a tiny tinge o' the green about the
> land  ...at long last!...amazing they had rain here at least 2 and a half
> times in the last week.
> jeff
>
>
>
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From krenon at y7mail.com  Sun Jun  7 10:32:32 2009
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 17:32:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Death of David Eddings
Message-ID: <787484.15072.qm@web110210.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Same for me, but change the "9" to "11"

Herendil

--- On Sun, 7/6/09, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:

77 ........mmm does not seem that old when you a tiny bit less than 9 years
off that Ms Woodhams.....





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From krenon at y7mail.com  Sun Jun  7 10:43:24 2009
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 17:43:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Disney Fairies - from Pixie to Pixar,
	a complete  demolition job
Message-ID: <536684.5333.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Strange. Mulwala makes less sense than Hume if you're considering the potential harm that the blue-green algae (cyanophytes to the botanical snobs) can do downstream. However it's not my call. Oh btw I realise that NSWers are called "cockroaches" because it was an illogical extention of "cockie" which was an epithet for those of NSW because some of them happen to be farmers. As Banjo Paterson put it

"There came a stranger, a cockatoo
The word means "farmer" as all men know
Who live in the land where the kangaroo
Barks loud at dawn, and the white eyed crow
Uplifts his song to the stockyard fence
As he watches the lambkins passing hence"

Someone who knows more about kangaroos than I do told me: "They snuffle or cough loudly but I wouldn't call it a bark."

Senecio is, I will add, a plant genus. Species of Senecio are very common, indeed you find them nearly everywhere. However, Senecio has a unique attribute....

- Herendil

--- On Sun, 7/6/09, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:

No Ted .....not the Hume (up the hume highway)...to Benella and then by a
country road to Yarrawonga-Mulwala? and not letting b g algae go (from Lake
Mulwala) , no, no,yes but they are trying to allow the b g a dry (out of the
water) and let frosts kill it off......so legend around Yarrawonga has
it.....You might confirm or deniythe science of it one (senecio)
jeff
cannot be related to Seneca but will be related to semester and also to
sennight I assume?




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From mlk at activ8.net.au  Sun Jun  7 10:46:49 2009
From: mlk at activ8.net.au (Michael Kennedy)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 10:46:49 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Tolkien Seminar 2010
In-Reply-To: <ecc18000905281636g2a696750qb7e51cef254fb1a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E04A331D4F9841C6A7CFDEEB4F78313E@Michael>

I saw horses too up here! At airport and on my way home today after trekking
around the NT.

Jeff - send me your address and I'll post you a cheque.

I found this on Amazon! Anyone care to speculate?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Book-Jonah-J-R-R-Tolkien/dp/0232527679/ref=sr_1_1?ie
=UTF8&s=books&qid=1243652760&sr=1-1

Michael

> -----Original Message-----
> From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
> bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Lynch
> Sent: Friday, 29 May 2009 9:37 AM
> To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Tolkien Seminar 2010
> 
> Happy NT Trek
>  Mikhail,
> Look up at night and see the Star Trek going on there.
> 
> Money can wait M...
> At least until you get back from your redustingdays.
> Bedrolldustinglusting nights...I have ajoke.
> Man's car breaks down...........a horse over the farm fence
> tells him to
> look at the battery terminal...just shift it around a bit says
> the
> horse....It works....the man goes into the small town's second
> pub...tells
> the story to the barman with a stiff Scotch.....Barman
> says ..'Was it
> a white horse?'
> Yes says the rescued drinker/motorist.....Just as well says the
> barman ....the black one knows bugger all about cars!'
> 
> Maybe I'll dun you for half of the deposit..................I
> can sustain
> 100 better than two...we will get that 200 back in the short
> and long of it
> M (a deposit)
> jeff
> 
> 
> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Michael Kennedy
> <mlk at activ8.net.au> wrote:
> 
> > I've changed the subject heading so I can just keep track of
> > Seminar-related
> > e-mails.
> >
> > All sounds good Jeff - a job well done! I will cover the
> costs too. Just
> > let
> > me know your mailing address and I'll send you a cheque.
> >
> > Now we just need a sexy title and a theme and we'll be on our
> way!
> >
> > PS. I will be on a trekking holiday in the NT for about 10
> days as of
> > tomorrow. Besides a small torch I am going to be a complete
> luddite, so I
> > don't expect I'll be in e-mail contact until I return!
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
> > > bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Lynch
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 26 May 2009 5:58 PM
> > > To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
> > > Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Sigurd and Gudrun
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Shut up Ted an listen...........(UP)
> > >
> > > I have tied the knot (David)
> > > And next week I will pay the 200 dallares for (a deposit)
> > > ..the hall dummies!
> > > And that is what is wot.
> > > I have taken photos!!!!!!
> > > Mikhail has detected a website....FANCYTHAT!...but clever
> > > enough for a mere
> > > 40 year old.
> > > And I am in contact with the web of managers who control
> Pacoe
> > > Vale Pub.
> > > It's good isn't it?
> > > love jeff
> > > PS sunnie brunnie forever
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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Mon Jun  8 09:16:03 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 09:16:03 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Tolkien Seminar 2010
In-Reply-To: <E04A331D4F9841C6A7CFDEEB4F78313E@Michael>
References: <ecc18000905281636g2a696750qb7e51cef254fb1a@mail.gmail.com>
	<E04A331D4F9841C6A7CFDEEB4F78313E@Michael>
Message-ID: <ecc18000906071616x2d0d25dyf296f27bd09b9045@mail.gmail.com>

Mihkail...it's $130....just the (cost) as I said...but we can share it if
you like...I have a friend 'Jimmy' he has met Elvis...........the REAL!...I
can tell the tale at another time if any one is bothered..........
whenever it is his shout he says.......'I'm a pensioner'
Address.unit 2/ 78 Pearson Street West Brunswick.3055

Weather report....despite North Melb losing another game there is still
weather..........still and more rain coming so they tell us...that's good
isn't it?
I reckon that my three 500 litre tanks will be all fulllsoon
.......and that is the weather report.Noooo as to the Jonah no clue at
all???
jeff
PS hanging out for the ASHES NOW TOO.
PPS Brumbies i the NT.last time I was in NT the manager of my pub hit one on
the way into Alice S.....smahed the car somewhat too

From chriswoodhams at gmail.com  Mon Jun  8 09:42:51 2009
From: chriswoodhams at gmail.com (Christine Woodhams)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 07:42:51 +0800
Subject: [TolHarndor] Death of David Eddings
In-Reply-To: <787484.15072.qm@web110210.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <787484.15072.qm@web110210.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <9e4c16540906071642p382b4203xba20541a392c2958@mail.gmail.com>

Haha, no - what I meant was that if you'd asked me I'd've thought he was in
his 50s. I'd never given his age any thought before.

2009/6/7 Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com>

> Same for me, but change the "9" to "11"
>
> Herendil
>
> --- On Sun, 7/6/09, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 77 ........mmm does not seem that old when you a tiny bit less than 9 years
> off that Ms Woodhams.....
>
>
>
>
>
>       Need a Holiday? Win a $10,000 Holiday of your choice. Enter now.
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Education.

"All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us." -
J.R.R. Tolkien.

From dragon at roots-boots.net  Mon Jun  8 11:35:04 2009
From: dragon at roots-boots.net (Marayong)
Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 11:35:04 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Tolkien Seminar 2010
In-Reply-To: <ecc18000906071616x2d0d25dyf296f27bd09b9045@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ecc18000905281636g2a696750qb7e51cef254fb1a@mail.gmail.com>	<E04A331D4F9841C6A7CFDEEB4F78313E@Michael>
	<ecc18000906071616x2d0d25dyf296f27bd09b9045@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A2C6AC8.3080904@roots-boots.net>

Jeff Lynch wrote:
> Mihkail...it's $130....just the (cost) as I said...but we can share it if
> you like...I have a friend 'Jimmy' he has met Elvis...........the REAL!...

Dare I admit I know someone who knows George Bush .. both the Bush and 
the Shrub? Admittedly it's not something I would normally admit in 
polite company ... Hmmm... does a bush and a shrub trump the king? 
Probably not ...

> I reckon that my three 500 litre tanks will be all fulllsoon
> .......and that is the weather report.Noooo as to the Jonah no clue at
> all???

That's good .. how's the veggie patch going? One of the grape vines you 
gave me sprouted nicely this summer, the other never did a thing. No 
grapes yet, naturally ... maybe next summer?

cheers,
David
-- 
Line dancing, Genealogy, Travel, Photography, Local history & more!
      http://roots-boots.net     mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net
The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for it
  to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its
           own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies


From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Tue Jun  9 09:30:46 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 09:30:46 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Tolkien Seminar 2010
In-Reply-To: <4A2C6AC8.3080904@roots-boots.net>
References: <ecc18000905281636g2a696750qb7e51cef254fb1a@mail.gmail.com>
	<E04A331D4F9841C6A7CFDEEB4F78313E@Michael>
	<ecc18000906071616x2d0d25dyf296f27bd09b9045@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A2C6AC8.3080904@roots-boots.net>
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Hey David that is good (about the vine) ....yes I'd say thta next year you
should get your first grapes.......I'm still working on Humboldt.....might
now post a disc to you.....but 85 grand plus words is a deal
Jeff
Elvis IS!

On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Marayong <dragon at roots-boots.net> wrote:

> Jeff Lynch wrote:
> > Mihkail...it's $130....just the (cost) as I said...but we can share it if
> > you like...I have a friend 'Jimmy' he has met Elvis...........the
> REAL!...
>
> Dare I admit I know someone who knows George Bush .. both the Bush and
> the Shrub? Admittedly it's not something I would normally admit in
> polite company ... Hmmm... does a bush and a shrub trump the king?
> Probably not ...
>
> > I reckon that my three 500 litre tanks will be all fulllsoon
> > .......and that is the weather report.Noooo as to the Jonah no clue at
> > all???
>
> That's good .. how's the veggie patch going? One of the grape vines you
> gave me sprouted nicely this summer, the other never did a thing. No
> grapes yet, naturally ... maybe next summer?
>
> cheers,
> David
> --
> Line dancing, Genealogy, Travel, Photography, Local history & more!
>      http://roots-boots.net     mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net
> The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for it
>  to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its
>           own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies
>
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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Tue Jun  9 09:35:50 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 09:35:50 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Death of David Eddings
In-Reply-To: <9e4c16540906071642p382b4203xba20541a392c2958@mail.gmail.com>
References: <787484.15072.qm@web110210.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<9e4c16540906071642p382b4203xba20541a392c2958@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ecc18000906081635i4dd2d96bs94ed10879a42c9dc@mail.gmail.com>

time......  what do we know about this non stuff?
there is not enough....too much ?or is there just the right amount or can we
expand our(local) time to fit in....say by choosing a la JRRT's suggestion?
any old hows.....just stick to...

'the grave's a fine and lovely place
But none there do I think embrace'
........and you won't go wrong
it's a bloom'n Marvel ain't it?
jeff



On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Christine Woodhams
<chriswoodhams at gmail.com>wrote:

> Haha, no - what I meant was that if you'd asked me I'd've thought he was in
> his 50s. I'd never given his age any thought before.
>
> 2009/6/7 Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com>
>
> > Same for me, but change the "9" to "11"
> >
> > Herendil
> >
> > --- On Sun, 7/6/09, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > 77 ........mmm does not seem that old when you a tiny bit less than 9
> years
> > off that Ms Woodhams.....
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >       Need a Holiday? Win a $10,000 Holiday of your choice. Enter now.
> >
> http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTJxN2x2ZmNpBF9zAzIwMjM2MTY2MTMEdG1fZG1lY2gDVGV4dCBMaW5rBHRtX2xuawNVMTEwMzk3NwR0bV9uZXQDWWFob28hBHRtX3BvcwN0YWdsaW5lBHRtX3BwdHkDYXVueg--/SIG=14600t3ni/**http%3A//au.rd.yahoo.com/mail/tagline/creativeholidays/*http%3A//au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset/%3Fp1=other%26p2=au%26p3=mailtagline
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>
>
>
> --
> Christine E. Woodhams
> BA (Hons) Archeology, Grad Dip Applied Heritage Studies, Grad Dip Primary
> Education.
>
> "All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us." -
> J.R.R. Tolkien.
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From krenon at y7mail.com  Tue Jun  9 14:56:25 2009
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 21:56:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Death of David Eddings
Message-ID: <52620.24343.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Time that is moved by little fidget wheels
Is not my time

- Kenneth Slessor: "Five Bells"

--- On Tue, 9/6/09, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:


time......? what do we know about this non stuff?
there is not enough....too much ?or is there just the right amount or can we
expand our(local) time to fit in....say by choosing a la JRRT's suggestion?
any old hows.....just stick to...

'the grave's a fine and lovely place
But none there do I think embrace'
........and you won't go wrong
it's a bloom'n Marvel ain't it?
jeff







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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Wed Jun 10 09:23:41 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:23:41 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Death of David Eddings
In-Reply-To: <52620.24343.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <52620.24343.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <ecc18000906091623j32583518s63946794cec2c30c@mail.gmail.com>

O so v good ted....mayhaps the finest poem ever writ in Aussieland.
jeff

On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:

> Time that is moved by little fidget wheels
> Is not my time
>
> - Kenneth Slessor: "Five Bells"
>
> --- On Tue, 9/6/09, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> time......  what do we know about this non stuff?
> there is not enough....too much ?or is there just the right amount or can
> we
> expand our(local) time to fit in....say by choosing a la JRRT's suggestion?
> any old hows.....just stick to...
>
> 'the grave's a fine and lovely place
> But none there do I think embrace'
> ........and you won't go wrong
> it's a bloom'n Marvel ain't it?
> jeff
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>       Need a Holiday? Win a $10,000 Holiday of your choice. Enter now.
> http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTJxN2x2ZmNpBF9zAzIwMjM2MTY2MTMEdG1fZG1lY2gDVGV4dCBMaW5rBHRtX2xuawNVMTEwMzk3NwR0bV9uZXQDWWFob28hBHRtX3BvcwN0YWdsaW5lBHRtX3BwdHkDYXVueg--/SIG=14600t3ni/**http%3A//au.rd.yahoo.com/mail/tagline/creativeholidays/*http%3A//au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset/%3Fp1=other%26p2=au%26p3=mailtagline
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From krenon at y7mail.com  Wed Jun 10 18:53:22 2009
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 01:53:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Death of David Eddings
Message-ID: <344552.29963.qm@web110216.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I actually prefer his "Captain Dobbin" and perhaps a few others to "Five Bells" but I don't deny the latter's quality. Also of course it is firmly entrenched in Sydney and I regard Slessor as the definitive Sydney poet. Because of the Songs of a Sentimental Bloke, I rather think of C. J. Dennis as the definitive?Melbourne poet. However, as far as I know, neither city has a large?performance space?named after either, although there is of course that painting called "Five Bells" in the foyer of the Sydney Opera House, but the Brisbane equivalent? has a large and opulent centre for performing arts. Personally I would place Judith Wright as overall a better poet than either Slessor or Dennis (as well as having a hand in starting Meanjin) and I entirely agree with the naming of their arts centre after her. Sadly she lost favour in her declining years by battling the cockies of Braidwood.
?
I won't quote Judith Wright (though?I can) but I will quote two Dennis quatrains from the last chapter of the Bloke (I've used normal rather than phonetic spellings as I find it hard to remember just what spelling Dennis used)
?
You live, you love, you learn, and when you come
To square the ledger in some thoughtful hour,
The everlasting answer to the sum
Must always be "where's sense in getting sour?"
?
and
?
Life's what you make it, and the bloke who tries
To grab the shining stars from off the skies
Goes crook on life and calls this world a cheat
And tramples on the daisies at his feet.

Love it!

--- On Wed, 10/6/09, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:




O so v good ted....mayhaps the finest poem ever writ in Aussieland.
jeff

On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:

> Time that is moved by little fidget wheels
> Is not my time
>
> - Kenneth Slessor: "Five Bells"



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From krenon at y7mail.com  Thu Jun 11 07:50:47 2009
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 14:50:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Fairy King gets fairy dust
Message-ID: <849222.12929.qm@web110201.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I stepped out this morning to look at the thermometer in the carport. Before I got there I noticed a porcelain pot full of water - the ice on the top was thick and hard. The temperature in the carport was -1 but up on Mount Boyce
?( http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDN60901/IDN60901.94743.shtml )
it was -2.2.

This was the second morning with promise, but no fulfillment, of the white stuff. Yet just 70 Km away and 700 metres up the little town of Oberon was wallowing in it. It was over the pubs, the chipboard factory and (not the least) over Brenda Lyon's daffodils
?( http://www.daffodils.com.au/ ). As we say in Blackheath, it's cool but Oberon is cold. Still I'd love a bit of their pretty precipitation.

--- On Mon, 8/6/09, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:


Weather report....despite North Melb losing another game there is still
weather..........still and more rain coming so they tell us...that's good
isn't it?




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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Thu Jun 11 09:10:26 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 09:10:26 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Fairy King gets fairy dust
In-Reply-To: <849222.12929.qm@web110201.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <849222.12929.qm@web110201.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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Likewise most cold here too Ted........not -1 though.....but we had a half
tonne of rain almost....all my 3 (500 l) water tanks are brimful.excess runs
from the third tank (prob into the street)
So I am set gardenspeakingly for some months now....the broadies (broad
beans are young and look so poppingly healthy......as green as younf broad
beans are thay.
and so the mooch of life goes on...yesterday I went to the pacoe Vale pub
for coffee (am coffee)...served in the small lounging area near o the pokies
thay charged us 3 bucks poer coffee......girl asked me if we intended to
play the pkies.I said no....I believe she was about to give us the coffee
cheaper  or mayhaps for free....except thta will not be (as you know) I
could see that she who must be obeyed was eyeing off a bloke at a
machine...look  he's got a technique..( she meant for playing the
machine)...in the end I sauntered over and translated or rather I
transmogrified 3 two dollar pieces into sigle dollars.she had one whichm
made 7...She don't like em (the pokes) all that much.but I knew she would
play in any case..just knew you know.
She gave me back four dollars....after three minutes she had become bored of
them.
That 's good isn't it?.....but????????she's grumpy with me
this am.............!!!!!!!!!!!

So if folks get bored with our conference they can
play pokies
have (proper) coffee
get drunk
sit in the proper and nearby lounge in the lobby
eat
catch the train home...........but less than a hundred yards from the door.
that 's good again eh?
jeff

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:

> I stepped out this morning to look at the thermometer in the carport.
> Before I got there I noticed a porcelain pot full of water - the ice on the
> top was thick and hard. The temperature in the carport was -1 but up on
> Mount Boyce
>  ( http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDN60901/IDN60901.94743.shtml )
> it was -2.2.
>
> This was the second morning with promise, but no fulfillment, of the white
> stuff. Yet just 70 Km away and 700 metres up the little town of Oberon was
> wallowing in it. It was over the pubs, the chipboard factory and (not the
> least) over Brenda Lyon's daffodils
>  ( http://www.daffodils.com.au/ ). As we say in Blackheath, it's cool but
> Oberon is cold. Still I'd love a bit of their pretty precipitation.
>
> --- On Mon, 8/6/09, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Weather report....despite North Melb losing another game there is still
> weather..........still and more rain coming so they tell us...that's good
> isn't it?
>
>
>
>
>      Need a Holiday? Win a $10,000 Holiday of your choice. Enter now.
> http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTJxN2x2ZmNpBF9zAzIwMjM2MTY2MTMEdG1fZG1lY2gDVGV4dCBMaW5rBHRtX2xuawNVMTEwMzk3NwR0bV9uZXQDWWFob28hBHRtX3BvcwN0YWdsaW5lBHRtX3BwdHkDYXVueg--/SIG=14600t3ni/**http%3A//au.rd.yahoo.com/mail/tagline/creativeholidays/*http%3A//au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset/%3Fp1=other%26p2=au%26p3=mailtagline
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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Thu Jun 11 09:15:09 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 09:15:09 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Death of David Eddings
In-Reply-To: <344552.29963.qm@web110216.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <344552.29963.qm@web110216.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <ecc18000906101615v5f66085bw3b4a1be2cf8576aa@mail.gmail.com>

Oh yes fine lines indeed from CJ Ted .man lived in the Dandenong
Ranges......
and.....
And with that he cuts his throat and ends his cares
'Peanuts and lollies cries the boy upstairs!'

or near to...anyhows....from Romeo and Juliet (sent.... Bloke)
jeff

On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:

> I actually prefer his "Captain Dobbin" and perhaps a few others to "Five
> Bells" but I don't deny the latter's quality. Also of course it is firmly
> entrenched in Sydney and I regard Slessor as the definitive Sydney poet.
> Because of the Songs of a Sentimental Bloke, I rather think of C. J. Dennis
> as the definitive Melbourne poet. However, as far as I know, neither city
> has a large performance space named after either, although there is of
> course that painting called "Five Bells" in the foyer of the Sydney Opera
> House, but the Brisbane equivalent  has a large and opulent centre for
> performing arts. Personally I would place Judith Wright as overall a better
> poet than either Slessor or Dennis (as well as having a hand in starting
> Meanjin) and I entirely agree with the naming of their arts centre after
> her. Sadly she lost favour in her declining years by battling the cockies of
> Braidwood.
>
> I won't quote Judith Wright (though I can) but I will quote two Dennis
> quatrains from the last chapter of the Bloke (I've used normal rather than
> phonetic spellings as I find it hard to remember just what spelling Dennis
> used)
>
> You live, you love, you learn, and when you come
> To square the ledger in some thoughtful hour,
> The everlasting answer to the sum
> Must always be "where's sense in getting sour?"
>
> and
>
> Life's what you make it, and the bloke who tries
> To grab the shining stars from off the skies
> Goes crook on life and calls this world a cheat
> And tramples on the daisies at his feet.
>
> Love it!
>
> --- On Wed, 10/6/09, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> O so v good ted....mayhaps the finest poem ever writ in Aussieland.
> jeff
>
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:
>
> > Time that is moved by little fidget wheels
> > Is not my time
> >
> > - Kenneth Slessor: "Five Bells"
>
>
>
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From dragon at roots-boots.net  Thu Jun 11 09:21:13 2009
From: dragon at roots-boots.net (David Powell)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 09:21:13 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Fairy King gets fairy dust
In-Reply-To: <ecc18000906101610x3ca18467gc3d29a53648be9a2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <849222.12929.qm@web110201.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<ecc18000906101610x3ca18467gc3d29a53648be9a2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090611092113.7gzlsr3hss08kso4@roots-boots.net>

Quoting Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com>:

No snow here either ... naturally ... but it was hovering around zero  
early in the morning .. ole Jack Frost made an impressive performance  
and the poor car looked like an igloo. Took 5 mins to scrape enuf ice  
off I could start driving. I didn't check to see if there was any ice  
on the fish pond .. that would have mean walking across the white  
lawn. But several of my lettuce plants were frozen solid. Does that  
count?

cheers,
David


> Likewise most cold here too Ted........not -1 though.....but we had a half
> tonne of rain almost....all my 3 (500 l) water tanks are brimful.excess runs
> from the third tank (prob into the street)
> So I am set gardenspeakingly for some months now....the broadies (broad
> beans are young and look so poppingly healthy......as green as younf broad
> beans are thay.
> and so the mooch of life goes on...yesterday I went to the pacoe Vale pub
> for coffee (am coffee)...served in the small lounging area near o the pokies
> thay charged us 3 bucks poer coffee......girl asked me if we intended to
> play the pkies.I said no....I believe she was about to give us the coffee
> cheaper  or mayhaps for free....except thta will not be (as you know) I
> could see that she who must be obeyed was eyeing off a bloke at a
> machine...look  he's got a technique..( she meant for playing the
> machine)...in the end I sauntered over and translated or rather I
> transmogrified 3 two dollar pieces into sigle dollars.she had one whichm
> made 7...She don't like em (the pokes) all that much.but I knew she would
> play in any case..just knew you know.
> She gave me back four dollars....after three minutes she had become bored of
> them.
> That 's good isn't it?.....but????????she's grumpy with me
> this am.............!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> So if folks get bored with our conference they can
> play pokies
> have (proper) coffee
> get drunk
> sit in the proper and nearby lounge in the lobby
> eat
> catch the train home...........but less than a hundred yards from the door.
> that 's good again eh?
> jeff
>
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:
>
>> I stepped out this morning to look at the thermometer in the carport.
>> Before I got there I noticed a porcelain pot full of water - the ice on the
>> top was thick and hard. The temperature in the carport was -1 but up on
>> Mount Boyce
>>  ( http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDN60901/IDN60901.94743.shtml )
>> it was -2.2.
>>
>> This was the second morning with promise, but no fulfillment, of the white
>> stuff. Yet just 70 Km away and 700 metres up the little town of Oberon was
>> wallowing in it. It was over the pubs, the chipboard factory and (not the
>> least) over Brenda Lyon's daffodils
>>  ( http://www.daffodils.com.au/ ). As we say in Blackheath, it's cool but
>> Oberon is cold. Still I'd love a bit of their pretty precipitation.
>>
>> --- On Mon, 8/6/09, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Weather report....despite North Melb losing another game there is still
>> weather..........still and more rain coming so they tell us...that's good
>> isn't it?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>      Need a Holiday? Win a $10,000 Holiday of your choice. Enter now.
>> http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTJxN2x2ZmNpBF9zAzIwMjM2MTY2MTMEdG1fZG1lY2gDVGV4dCBMaW5rBHRtX2xuawNVMTEwMzk3NwR0bV9uZXQDWWFob28hBHRtX3BvcwN0YWdsaW5lBHRtX3BwdHkDYXVueg--/SIG=14600t3ni/**http%3A//au.rd.yahoo.com/mail/tagline/creativeholidays/*http%3A//au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset/%3Fp1=other%26p2=au%26p3=mailtagline
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From mlk at activ8.net.au  Thu Jun 11 09:57:48 2009
From: mlk at activ8.net.au (Michael Kennedy)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 09:57:48 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Fairy King gets fairy dust
In-Reply-To: <20090611092113.7gzlsr3hss08kso4@roots-boots.net>
Message-ID: <2EBBAA43D2004FA8885FD3DE87897752@Michael>

And I thought 7 degrees recorded by my car temperature gauge was impressive!
For the record that was measured along Picton Road yesterday morning at
about 9:30am. Not as cold as other places, but when you have been wallowing
in 32 degrees for over a week it may as well be. I'm back briefly - meeting
in the city for the rest of this week and then NZ next week (I may yet get
below zero as I'll be in Christchurch!).

I've attached a snap from the NT. I'll send more. 

Jeff - I will send you cheque anon!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
> bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of David Powell
> Sent: Thursday, 11 June 2009 9:21 AM
> To: list at tolharndor.org
> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Fairy King gets fairy dust
> 
> Quoting Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com>:
> 
> No snow here either ... naturally ... but it was hovering
> around zero
> early in the morning .. ole Jack Frost made an impressive
> performance
> and the poor car looked like an igloo. Took 5 mins to scrape
> enuf ice
> off I could start driving. I didn't check to see if there was
> any ice
> on the fish pond .. that would have mean walking across the
> white
> lawn. But several of my lettuce plants were frozen solid. Does
> that
> count?
> 
> cheers,
> David
> 
> 
> > Likewise most cold here too Ted........not -1 though.....but
> we had a half
> > tonne of rain almost....all my 3 (500 l) water tanks are
> brimful.excess runs
> > from the third tank (prob into the street)
> > So I am set gardenspeakingly for some months now....the
> broadies (broad
> > beans are young and look so poppingly healthy......as green
> as younf broad
> > beans are thay.
> > and so the mooch of life goes on...yesterday I went to the
> pacoe Vale pub
> > for coffee (am coffee)...served in the small lounging area
> near o the pokies
> > thay charged us 3 bucks poer coffee......girl asked me if we
> intended to
> > play the pkies.I said no....I believe she was about to give
> us the coffee
> > cheaper  or mayhaps for free....except thta will not be (as
> you know) I
> > could see that she who must be obeyed was eyeing off a bloke
> at a
> > machine...look  he's got a technique..( she meant for playing
> the
> > machine)...in the end I sauntered over and translated or
> rather I
> > transmogrified 3 two dollar pieces into sigle dollars.she had
> one whichm
> > made 7...She don't like em (the pokes) all that much.but I
> knew she would
> > play in any case..just knew you know.
> > She gave me back four dollars....after three minutes she had
> become bored of
> > them.
> > That 's good isn't it?.....but????????she's grumpy with me
> > this am.............!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > So if folks get bored with our conference they can
> > play pokies
> > have (proper) coffee
> > get drunk
> > sit in the proper and nearby lounge in the lobby
> > eat
> > catch the train home...........but less than a hundred yards
> from the door.
> > that 's good again eh?
> > jeff
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Edwin Scribner
> <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I stepped out this morning to look at the thermometer in the
> carport.
> >> Before I got there I noticed a porcelain pot full of water -
> the ice on the
> >> top was thick and hard. The temperature in the carport was -
> 1 but up on
> >> Mount Boyce
> >>
> ( http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDN60901/IDN60901.94743.shtml )
> >> it was -2.2.
> >>
> >> This was the second morning with promise, but no fulfillment,
> of the white
> >> stuff. Yet just 70 Km away and 700 metres up the little town
> of Oberon was
> >> wallowing in it. It was over the pubs, the chipboard factory
> and (not the
> >> least) over Brenda Lyon's daffodils
> >>  ( http://www.daffodils.com.au/ ). As we say in Blackheath,
> it's cool but
> >> Oberon is cold. Still I'd love a bit of their pretty
> precipitation.
> >>
> >> --- On Mon, 8/6/09, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Weather report....despite North Melb losing another game
> there is still
> >> weather..........still and more rain coming so they tell
> us...that's good
> >> isn't it?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>      Need a Holiday? Win a $10,000 Holiday of your choice.
> Enter now.
> >>
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> MEdG1fZG1lY2gDVGV4dCBMaW5rBHRtX2xuawNVMTEwMzk3NwR0bV9uZXQDWWFob
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> it
>   to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose
> its
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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Fri Jun 12 09:23:05 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:23:05 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Fairy King gets fairy dust
In-Reply-To: <2EBBAA43D2004FA8885FD3DE87897752@Michael>
References: <20090611092113.7gzlsr3hss08kso4@roots-boots.net>
	<2EBBAA43D2004FA8885FD3DE87897752@Michael>
Message-ID: <ecc18000906111623l10d2b56fx78974858517e55f5@mail.gmail.com>

Dear all,
56 cm of snow is the highest (near anyhow) here all the snow resorts state
that they have much snow and the fire burnt Marysville was pictured in a
stunning photo showing the now near nude hills as dusted with snow rolling
down to meet the white and brown patched burnt blosks i the town space
proper.
Very cold here in Sunnie B too as Carlton prepares to battle the Saints (St
Kilda) this eve
....her indoors boasts how she will come home rolling drunk and
victorious.....and worry me.........it would take a senior Blues supporter
to carry on like that....but there ya go...ya cannot put brains in a
monument....ie ALL blues supporters.........!
She is to be .....wait for it! In a (business)...exec style box at Telstra
Dome...err Edithad Stadium sorry!

a point here....... Mikhail may know this already...Etihad is the National
carrier of UAE.........the far bigger airline ....Emirates A.....is also
based in the UAE.....(Dubai)...but isn't the National Carrier. I want to fly
again in the new  Emirates(and large Boeing) wide body job to get to Wien
(Vienna)probably have to go to Frankfurt first and then
onwards..............I must save biccies to do this......not enough dough
for that yet!......for ideally I would live in that city for say 2 or 3
months and write (still).......any one wish to come with
me?..............come fly with me..................oh Frankie
Jeff
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au> wrote:

> And I thought 7 degrees recorded by my car temperature gauge was
> impressive!
> For the record that was measured along Picton Road yesterday morning at
> about 9:30am. Not as cold as other places, but when you have been wallowing
> in 32 degrees for over a week it may as well be. I'm back briefly - meeting
> in the city for the rest of this week and then NZ next week (I may yet get
> below zero as I'll be in Christchurch!).
>
> I've attached a snap from the NT. I'll send more.
>
> Jeff - I will send you cheque anon!
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
> > bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of David Powell
> > Sent: Thursday, 11 June 2009 9:21 AM
> > To: list at tolharndor.org
> > Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Fairy King gets fairy dust
> >
> > Quoting Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com>:
> >
> > No snow here either ... naturally ... but it was hovering
> > around zero
> > early in the morning .. ole Jack Frost made an impressive
> > performance
> > and the poor car looked like an igloo. Took 5 mins to scrape
> > enuf ice
> > off I could start driving. I didn't check to see if there was
> > any ice
> > on the fish pond .. that would have mean walking across the
> > white
> > lawn. But several of my lettuce plants were frozen solid. Does
> > that
> > count?
> >
> > cheers,
> > David
> >
> >
> > > Likewise most cold here too Ted........not -1 though.....but
> > we had a half
> > > tonne of rain almost....all my 3 (500 l) water tanks are
> > brimful.excess runs
> > > from the third tank (prob into the street)
> > > So I am set gardenspeakingly for some months now....the
> > broadies (broad
> > > beans are young and look so poppingly healthy......as green
> > as younf broad
> > > beans are thay.
> > > and so the mooch of life goes on...yesterday I went to the
> > pacoe Vale pub
> > > for coffee (am coffee)...served in the small lounging area
> > near o the pokies
> > > thay charged us 3 bucks poer coffee......girl asked me if we
> > intended to
> > > play the pkies.I said no....I believe she was about to give
> > us the coffee
> > > cheaper  or mayhaps for free....except thta will not be (as
> > you know) I
> > > could see that she who must be obeyed was eyeing off a bloke
> > at a
> > > machine...look  he's got a technique..( she meant for playing
> > the
> > > machine)...in the end I sauntered over and translated or
> > rather I
> > > transmogrified 3 two dollar pieces into sigle dollars.she had
> > one whichm
> > > made 7...She don't like em (the pokes) all that much.but I
> > knew she would
> > > play in any case..just knew you know.
> > > She gave me back four dollars....after three minutes she had
> > become bored of
> > > them.
> > > That 's good isn't it?.....but????????she's grumpy with me
> > > this am.............!!!!!!!!!!!
> > >
> > > So if folks get bored with our conference they can
> > > play pokies
> > > have (proper) coffee
> > > get drunk
> > > sit in the proper and nearby lounge in the lobby
> > > eat
> > > catch the train home...........but less than a hundred yards
> > from the door.
> > > that 's good again eh?
> > > jeff
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Edwin Scribner
> > <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I stepped out this morning to look at the thermometer in the
> > carport.
> > >> Before I got there I noticed a porcelain pot full of water -
> > the ice on the
> > >> top was thick and hard. The temperature in the carport was -
> > 1 but up on
> > >> Mount Boyce
> > >>
> > ( http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDN60901/IDN60901.94743.shtml )
> > >> it was -2.2.
> > >>
> > >> This was the second morning with promise, but no fulfillment,
> > of the white
> > >> stuff. Yet just 70 Km away and 700 metres up the little town
> > of Oberon was
> > >> wallowing in it. It was over the pubs, the chipboard factory
> > and (not the
> > >> least) over Brenda Lyon's daffodils
> > >>  ( http://www.daffodils.com.au/ ). As we say in Blackheath,
> > it's cool but
> > >> Oberon is cold. Still I'd love a bit of their pretty
> > precipitation.
> > >>
> > >> --- On Mon, 8/6/09, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Weather report....despite North Melb losing another game
> > there is still
> > >> weather..........still and more rain coming so they tell
> > us...that's good
> > >> isn't it?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>      Need a Holiday? Win a $10,000 Holiday of your choice.
> > Enter now.
> > >>
> > http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTJxN2x2ZmNpBF9zAzIwMjM2MTY2MT
> > MEdG1fZG1lY2gDVGV4dCBMaW5rBHRtX2xuawNVMTEwMzk3NwR0bV9uZXQDWWFob
> > 28hBHRtX3BvcwN0YWdsaW5lBHRtX3BwdHkDYXVueg--
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> >
> >
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> > 2005,2007
> >       http://roots-boots.net     mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net
> > The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for
> > it
> >   to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose
> > its
> >            own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies
> >
> >
> >
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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Sat Jun 13 09:54:48 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 09:54:48 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Fairy King gets fairy dust
In-Reply-To: <2EBBAA43D2004FA8885FD3DE87897752@Michael>
References: <20090611092113.7gzlsr3hss08kso4@roots-boots.net>
	<2EBBAA43D2004FA8885FD3DE87897752@Michael>
Message-ID: <ecc18000906121654r4c4d9146l9f45b690875d95f0@mail.gmail.com>

No hurry for cheque dear boy
........
weather report......Carlton lost by 10 points to the Saints last night at
Etihad.see Yesterdays report.
It is a freezing wind blowing here this am.
The Hobbit work of mine is being examined soon by my agent

THE SHIRES ...I mean. Yep I do have an agent cum editor now...name of
Christina.....She's the one looking at The Berggeist right now (75,000
words)..........but it's expensive to pay for editing!
She does me a favour....by charging me a cent a word....that is a lot less
than the $60 an hour she is entitled to charge..........but you can do the
math......75 grand of words at 1 cent ea........even so she cut off a
bit.......Cost ?  $ 650....big thanks o Daid for strating this too!
Jeff
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au> wrote:

> And I thought 7 degrees recorded by my car temperature gauge was
> impressive!
> For the record that was measured along Picton Road yesterday morning at
> about 9:30am. Not as cold as other places, but when you have been wallowing
> in 32 degrees for over a week it may as well be. I'm back briefly - meeting
> in the city for the rest of this week and then NZ next week (I may yet get
> below zero as I'll be in Christchurch!).
>
> I've attached a snap from the NT. I'll send more.
>
> Jeff - I will send you cheque anon!
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
> > bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of David Powell
> > Sent: Thursday, 11 June 2009 9:21 AM
> > To: list at tolharndor.org
> > Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Fairy King gets fairy dust
> >
> > Quoting Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com>:
> >
> > No snow here either ... naturally ... but it was hovering
> > around zero
> > early in the morning .. ole Jack Frost made an impressive
> > performance
> > and the poor car looked like an igloo. Took 5 mins to scrape
> > enuf ice
> > off I could start driving. I didn't check to see if there was
> > any ice
> > on the fish pond .. that would have mean walking across the
> > white
> > lawn. But several of my lettuce plants were frozen solid. Does
> > that
> > count?
> >
> > cheers,
> > David
> >
> >
> > > Likewise most cold here too Ted........not -1 though.....but
> > we had a half
> > > tonne of rain almost....all my 3 (500 l) water tanks are
> > brimful.excess runs
> > > from the third tank (prob into the street)
> > > So I am set gardenspeakingly for some months now....the
> > broadies (broad
> > > beans are young and look so poppingly healthy......as green
> > as younf broad
> > > beans are thay.
> > > and so the mooch of life goes on...yesterday I went to the
> > pacoe Vale pub
> > > for coffee (am coffee)...served in the small lounging area
> > near o the pokies
> > > thay charged us 3 bucks poer coffee......girl asked me if we
> > intended to
> > > play the pkies.I said no....I believe she was about to give
> > us the coffee
> > > cheaper  or mayhaps for free....except thta will not be (as
> > you know) I
> > > could see that she who must be obeyed was eyeing off a bloke
> > at a
> > > machine...look  he's got a technique..( she meant for playing
> > the
> > > machine)...in the end I sauntered over and translated or
> > rather I
> > > transmogrified 3 two dollar pieces into sigle dollars.she had
> > one whichm
> > > made 7...She don't like em (the pokes) all that much.but I
> > knew she would
> > > play in any case..just knew you know.
> > > She gave me back four dollars....after three minutes she had
> > become bored of
> > > them.
> > > That 's good isn't it?.....but????????she's grumpy with me
> > > this am.............!!!!!!!!!!!
> > >
> > > So if folks get bored with our conference they can
> > > play pokies
> > > have (proper) coffee
> > > get drunk
> > > sit in the proper and nearby lounge in the lobby
> > > eat
> > > catch the train home...........but less than a hundred yards
> > from the door.
> > > that 's good again eh?
> > > jeff
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Edwin Scribner
> > <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I stepped out this morning to look at the thermometer in the
> > carport.
> > >> Before I got there I noticed a porcelain pot full of water -
> > the ice on the
> > >> top was thick and hard. The temperature in the carport was -
> > 1 but up on
> > >> Mount Boyce
> > >>
> > ( http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDN60901/IDN60901.94743.shtml )
> > >> it was -2.2.
> > >>
> > >> This was the second morning with promise, but no fulfillment,
> > of the white
> > >> stuff. Yet just 70 Km away and 700 metres up the little town
> > of Oberon was
> > >> wallowing in it. It was over the pubs, the chipboard factory
> > and (not the
> > >> least) over Brenda Lyon's daffodils
> > >>  ( http://www.daffodils.com.au/ ). As we say in Blackheath,
> > it's cool but
> > >> Oberon is cold. Still I'd love a bit of their pretty
> > precipitation.
> > >>
> > >> --- On Mon, 8/6/09, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Weather report....despite North Melb losing another game
> > there is still
> > >> weather..........still and more rain coming so they tell
> > us...that's good
> > >> isn't it?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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From dryad0404 at yahoo.co.uk  Sat Jun 13 10:07:53 2009
From: dryad0404 at yahoo.co.uk (dryad)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:07:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TolHarndor] SIR Christopher Lee!
Message-ID: <89957.92694.qm@web24605.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

abut time, if you ask me...
?
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20090612/tuk-horror-film-legend-lee-is-knighted-6323e80.html
?
horror fan in FLA
Elise

--- On Fri, 12/6/09, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Fairy King gets fairy dust
To: "Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society" <list at tolharndor.org>
Date: Friday, 12 June, 2009, 7:54 PM


No hurry for cheque dear boy
........
weather report......Carlton lost by 10 points to the Saints last night at
Etihad.see Yesterdays report.
It is a freezing wind blowing here this am.
The Hobbit work of mine is being examined soon by my agent

THE SHIRES ...I mean. Yep I do have an agent cum editor now...name of
Christina.....She's the one looking at The Berggeist right now (75,000
words)..........but it's expensive to pay for editing!
She does me a favour....by charging me a cent a word....that is a lot less
than the $60 an hour she is entitled to charge..........but you can do the
math......75 grand of words at 1 cent ea........even so she cut off a
bit.......Cost ?? $ 650....big thanks o Daid for strating this too!
Jeff
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au> wrote:

> And I thought 7 degrees recorded by my car temperature gauge was
> impressive!
> For the record that was measured along Picton Road yesterday morning at
> about 9:30am. Not as cold as other places, but when you have been wallowing
> in 32 degrees for over a week it may as well be. I'm back briefly - meeting
> in the city for the rest of this week and then NZ next week (I may yet get
> below zero as I'll be in Christchurch!).
>
> I've attached a snap from the NT. I'll send more.
>
> Jeff - I will send you cheque anon!
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
> > bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of David Powell
> > Sent: Thursday, 11 June 2009 9:21 AM
> > To: list at tolharndor.org
> > Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Fairy King gets fairy dust
> >
> > Quoting Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com>:
> >
> > No snow here either ... naturally ... but it was hovering
> > around zero
> > early in the morning .. ole Jack Frost made an impressive
> > performance
> > and the poor car looked like an igloo. Took 5 mins to scrape
> > enuf ice
> > off I could start driving. I didn't check to see if there was
> > any ice
> > on the fish pond .. that would have mean walking across the
> > white
> > lawn. But several of my lettuce plants were frozen solid. Does
> > that
> > count?
> >
> > cheers,
> > David
> >
> >
> > > Likewise most cold here too Ted........not -1 though.....but
> > we had a half
> > > tonne of rain almost....all my 3 (500 l) water tanks are
> > brimful.excess runs
> > > from the third tank (prob into the street)
> > > So I am set gardenspeakingly for some months now....the
> > broadies (broad
> > > beans are young and look so poppingly healthy......as green
> > as younf broad
> > > beans are thay.
> > > and so the mooch of life goes on...yesterday I went to the
> > pacoe Vale pub
> > > for coffee (am coffee)...served in the small lounging area
> > near o the pokies
> > > thay charged us 3 bucks poer coffee......girl asked me if we
> > intended to
> > > play the pkies.I said no....I believe she was about to give
> > us the coffee
> > > cheaper? or mayhaps for free....except thta will not be (as
> > you know) I
> > > could see that she who must be obeyed was eyeing off a bloke
> > at a
> > > machine...look? he's got a technique..( she meant for playing
> > the
> > > machine)...in the end I sauntered over and translated or
> > rather I
> > > transmogrified 3 two dollar pieces into sigle dollars.she had
> > one whichm
> > > made 7...She don't like em (the pokes) all that much.but I
> > knew she would
> > > play in any case..just knew you know.
> > > She gave me back four dollars....after three minutes she had
> > become bored of
> > > them.
> > > That 's good isn't it?.....but????????she's grumpy with me
> > > this am.............!!!!!!!!!!!
> > >
> > > So if folks get bored with our conference they can
> > > play pokies
> > > have (proper) coffee
> > > get drunk
> > > sit in the proper and nearby lounge in the lobby
> > > eat
> > > catch the train home...........but less than a hundred yards
> > from the door.
> > > that 's good again eh?
> > > jeff
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Edwin Scribner
> > <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I stepped out this morning to look at the thermometer in the
> > carport.
> > >> Before I got there I noticed a porcelain pot full of water -
> > the ice on the
> > >> top was thick and hard. The temperature in the carport was -
> > 1 but up on
> > >> Mount Boyce
> > >>
> > ( http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDN60901/IDN60901.94743.shtml )
> > >> it was -2.2.
> > >>
> > >> This was the second morning with promise, but no fulfillment,
> > of the white
> > >> stuff. Yet just 70 Km away and 700 metres up the little town
> > of Oberon was
> > >> wallowing in it. It was over the pubs, the chipboard factory
> > and (not the
> > >> least) over Brenda Lyon's daffodils
> > >>? ( http://www.daffodils.com.au/ ). As we say in Blackheath,
> > it's cool but
> > >> Oberon is cold. Still I'd love a bit of their pretty
> > precipitation.
> > >>
> > >> --- On Mon, 8/6/09, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Weather report....despite North Melb losing another game
> > there is still
> > >> weather..........still and more rain coming so they tell
> > us...that's good
> > >> isn't it?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>? ? ? Need a Holiday? Win a $10,000 Holiday of your choice.
> > Enter now.
> > >>
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> > it
> >???to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose
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From krenon at y7mail.com  Sat Jun 13 12:01:04 2009
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:01:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TolHarndor] SIR Christopher Lee!
Message-ID: <77226.14319.qm@web110208.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

But did they ask Christopher before making him Sir? Some Knights-to-be have turned the honour down, for cogent reasons, eg T. E. Lawrence said "If I get knighted my tailor will double my bill". Spike Milligan was knighted shortly before his death but, being an Irish citizen, he couldn't be called "Sir", at least not with official sanction.

Terry Pratchett, I must allow, accepted the honour with apparent alacrity.

Jeff, you say it's a freezing wind. That puts me in mind of a quote:

"There's an east wind coming all the same, such a wind as never blew on England yet. It will be cold and bitter ... and a good many of us will wither before its blast. But it's God's own wind none the less, and a cleaner, better, stronger land will lie in the sunshine when the storm has cleared."

You recognise that, of course.

--- On Sat, 13/6/09, dryad <dryad0404 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:


abut time, if you ask me...
?

From: Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com>

No hurry for cheque dear boy
........
weather report......Carlton lost by 10 points to the Saints last night at
Etihad.see Yesterdays report.
It is a freezing wind blowing here this am.
The Hobbit work of mine is being examined soon by my agent





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From dryad0404 at yahoo.co.uk  Sun Jun 14 17:36:37 2009
From: dryad0404 at yahoo.co.uk (dryad)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 00:36:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TolHarndor] SIR Christopher Lee!
Message-ID: <281082.45128.qm@web24613.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Ted,
?
I have a recording of Basil Rathbone reading "Young Goodman Brown" (imho, only Michael Caine comes close to playing as well a Holmes) and he does a stellar job at it. One of my favs...of course that is Nathaniel Hawthorne and not Sir Arthur, but then I believe Sir Arthur was a bit of a nutter later on in life. :) Hawthorne's grandfather was actually a judge on the Salem witch trials. little known facts that can do nothing but clutter you mind...
Elise

--- On Fri, 12/6/09, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:


From: Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com>
Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] SIR Christopher Lee!
To: "Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society" <list at tolharndor.org>
Date: Friday, 12 June, 2009, 10:01 PM


But did they ask Christopher before making him Sir? Some Knights-to-be have turned the honour down, for cogent reasons, eg T. E. Lawrence said "If I get knighted my tailor will double my bill". Spike Milligan was knighted shortly before his death but, being an Irish citizen, he couldn't be called "Sir", at least not with official sanction.

Terry Pratchett, I must allow, accepted the honour with apparent alacrity.

Jeff, you say it's a freezing wind. That puts me in mind of a quote:

"There's an east wind coming all the same, such a wind as never blew on England yet. It will be cold and bitter ... and a good many of us will wither before its blast. But it's God's own wind none the less, and a cleaner, better, stronger land will lie in the sunshine when the storm has cleared."

You recognise that, of course.

--- On Sat, 13/6/09, dryad <dryad0404 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:


abut time, if you ask me...
?

From: Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com>

No hurry for cheque dear boy
........
weather report......Carlton lost by 10 points to the Saints last night at
Etihad.see Yesterdays report.
It is a freezing wind blowing here this am.
The Hobbit work of mine is being examined soon by my agent





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From krenon at y7mail.com  Sun Jun 14 21:17:29 2009
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 04:17:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TolHarndor] SIR Christopher Lee!
Message-ID: <132684.53926.qm@web110208.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi Elise.

Personally I prefer the Holmes of my own imagination. Rathbone rather stereotyped the part and I thought his manner was just too cocksure - after all Holmes did make mistakes (in two cases - The Five Orange Pips and The Dancing Men - they cost a life). As for Sir Arthur (Conan Doyle, that is, certainly not Sullivan whose life I know a little more about), I haven't ever been into his private life, although I have read that it was sordid at times. Have you seen stuff concerning his alleged poisoning of Fletcher Robinson, as well as stealing the plot of the Hound from him? 

If anyone didn't recognise my quote - it was some of the last spoken words attributed to Sherlock Holmes by his true author. The words were spoken on the eve of World War 1, hence the rather gloomy prognosis.

--- On Sun, 14/6/09, dryad <dryad0404 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:


Ted,
?
I have a recording of Basil Rathbone reading "Young Goodman Brown" (imho, only Michael Caine comes close to playing as well a Holmes) and he does a stellar job at it. One of my favs...of course that is Nathaniel Hawthorne and not Sir Arthur, but then I believe Sir Arthur was a bit of a nutter later on in life. :) Hawthorne's grandfather was actually a judge on the Salem witch trials. little known facts that can do nothing but clutter you mind...
Elise





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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Mon Jun 15 09:09:32 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 09:09:32 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] SIR Christopher Lee!
In-Reply-To: <77226.14319.qm@web110208.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <77226.14319.qm@web110208.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <ecc18000906141609u7683edceg399819f73824f2d6@mail.gmail.com>

Freezing wind quote via Ted.could be that it is W.Spencer at work (pobably
in the House of Westminster!
jeff
ps..Weather report.again a v cold am....but this time with the (a) promise
of a shiny outlook for the Mon day......I was up at 5am writing after having
put on my heating system.........blows air through ceiling ducts and is not
at all wunderbar in der winter............North Lost yesterday....so did (at
the moment) the progressives in Iran.a big story.and you ain't seen  nuthing
yet
also big news pm of Israel's statement on Palestine.call it what you
may.......


On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:

> But did they ask Christopher before making him Sir? Some Knights-to-be have
> turned the honour down, for cogent reasons, eg T. E. Lawrence said "If I get
> knighted my tailor will double my bill". Spike Milligan was knighted shortly
> before his death but, being an Irish citizen, he couldn't be called "Sir",
> at least not with official sanction.
>
> Terry Pratchett, I must allow, accepted the honour with apparent alacrity.
>
> Jeff, you say it's a freezing wind. That puts me in mind of a quote:
>
> "There's an east wind coming all the same, such a wind as never blew on
> England yet. It will be cold and bitter ... and a good many of us will
> wither before its blast. But it's God's own wind none the less, and a
> cleaner, better, stronger land will lie in the sunshine when the storm has
> cleared."
>
> You recognise that, of course.
>
> --- On Sat, 13/6/09, dryad <dryad0404 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> abut time, if you ask me...
>
>
> From: Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com>
>
> No hurry for cheque dear boy
> ........
> weather report......Carlton lost by 10 points to the Saints last night at
> Etihad.see Yesterdays report.
> It is a freezing wind blowing here this am.
> The Hobbit work of mine is being examined soon by my agent
>
>
>
>
>
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From dragon at roots-boots.net  Mon Jun 15 09:30:53 2009
From: dragon at roots-boots.net (David Powell)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 09:30:53 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] SIR Christopher Lee!
In-Reply-To: <ecc18000906141609u7683edceg399819f73824f2d6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <77226.14319.qm@web110208.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<ecc18000906141609u7683edceg399819f73824f2d6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090615093053.fh9r7u3zko040ows@roots-boots.net>

Weather report here in far western sydney ...

A cool start to the day but predicted to reach a relatively balmy 18c  
during the day. Unlike the previous week there was no need to chip  
copious amounts of ice off the car so one could see out of the  
windows, so I guess not as cold as it has been. No frost either. The  
remainder of the week is, according to the latest crystal ball gazing,  
set to be cold & wet with showers all week after today.

In big breaking news ... the heater in my office at work works quite well!

cheers,
David

Quoting Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com>:

> Freezing wind quote via Ted.could be that it is W.Spencer at work (pobably
> in the House of Westminster!
> jeff
> ps..Weather report.again a v cold am....but this time with the (a) promise
> of a shiny outlook for the Mon day......I was up at 5am writing after having
> put on my heating system.........blows air through ceiling ducts and is not
> at all wunderbar in der winter............North Lost yesterday....so did (at
> the moment) the progressives in Iran.a big story.and you ain't seen  nuthing
> yet
> also big news pm of Israel's statement on Palestine.call it what you
> may.......
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:
>
>> But did they ask Christopher before making him Sir? Some Knights-to-be have
>> turned the honour down, for cogent reasons, eg T. E. Lawrence said "If I get
>> knighted my tailor will double my bill". Spike Milligan was knighted shortly
>> before his death but, being an Irish citizen, he couldn't be called "Sir",
>> at least not with official sanction.
>>
>> Terry Pratchett, I must allow, accepted the honour with apparent alacrity.
>>
>> Jeff, you say it's a freezing wind. That puts me in mind of a quote:
>>
>> "There's an east wind coming all the same, such a wind as never blew on
>> England yet. It will be cold and bitter ... and a good many of us will
>> wither before its blast. But it's God's own wind none the less, and a
>> cleaner, better, stronger land will lie in the sunshine when the storm has
>> cleared."
>>
>> You recognise that, of course.
>>
>> --- On Sat, 13/6/09, dryad <dryad0404 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>> abut time, if you ask me...
>>
>>
>> From: Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com>
>>
>> No hurry for cheque dear boy
>> ........
>> weather report......Carlton lost by 10 points to the Saints last night at
>> Etihad.see Yesterdays report.
>> It is a freezing wind blowing here this am.
>> The Hobbit work of mine is being examined soon by my agent
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Wed Jun 17 09:30:23 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 09:30:23 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] SIR Christopher Lee!
In-Reply-To: <20090615093053.fh9r7u3zko040ows@roots-boots.net>
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Dear David...re your breaking news.so pleased to hear that the heater
functions so well.tis an important aspect of your current(apt to be cold)
life.
And here I ponder (once again) after seeing a full spread view of JRRT's
artwork...(cover) of the original HOBBIT circa 1931?.............I think
that this shows what a fine graphic artist the man was.
I always was of the opinion that (with major exceptions) his verse work
irritated me..but not so the man's drawings.a cute mixture of naive
associations......an unreal reality sense of a place or and a time of his
own making.the art work really seems to me to make sense of his own
mind-created world(s).
I thank the man for helping to keep the (Coral Island-like ) boy in me
alive.....I've rather  foolishy promised (unlikely say  ya all) to grow up
when I turn 70.....this to happen in 2011.
The promise was made to my Lady. DB.........so of course that does not
count.......she lies in her teeth to me when it makes sense....and I'm a
long way behind her in that department........
!!!!!!!
Is it shit? I dunno.maybe.
love Jeff
ps I keep meaning to send Humboldt to David...but I just keep on
going.........more news (I hope) on The Shires anon.......
It's FOTBD's here today.....brrrrrrrrrrr..........
jeff encore.......

On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 9:30 AM, David Powell <dragon at roots-boots.net>wrote:

> Weather report here in far western sydney ...
>
> A cool start to the day but predicted to reach a relatively balmy 18c
> during the day. Unlike the previous week there was no need to chip
> copious amounts of ice off the car so one could see out of the
> windows, so I guess not as cold as it has been. No frost either. The
> remainder of the week is, according to the latest crystal ball gazing,
> set to be cold & wet with showers all week after today.
>
> In big breaking news ... the heater in my office at work works quite well!
>
> cheers,
> David
>
> Quoting Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com>:
>
> > Freezing wind quote via Ted.could be that it is W.Spencer at work
> (pobably
> > in the House of Westminster!
> > jeff
> > ps..Weather report.again a v cold am....but this time with the (a)
> promise
> > of a shiny outlook for the Mon day......I was up at 5am writing after
> having
> > put on my heating system.........blows air through ceiling ducts and is
> not
> > at all wunderbar in der winter............North Lost yesterday....so did
> (at
> > the moment) the progressives in Iran.a big story.and you ain't seen
>  nuthing
> > yet
> > also big news pm of Israel's statement on Palestine.call it what you
> > may.......
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> But did they ask Christopher before making him Sir? Some Knights-to-be
> have
> >> turned the honour down, for cogent reasons, eg T. E. Lawrence said "If I
> get
> >> knighted my tailor will double my bill". Spike Milligan was knighted
> shortly
> >> before his death but, being an Irish citizen, he couldn't be called
> "Sir",
> >> at least not with official sanction.
> >>
> >> Terry Pratchett, I must allow, accepted the honour with apparent
> alacrity.
> >>
> >> Jeff, you say it's a freezing wind. That puts me in mind of a quote:
> >>
> >> "There's an east wind coming all the same, such a wind as never blew on
> >> England yet. It will be cold and bitter ... and a good many of us will
> >> wither before its blast. But it's God's own wind none the less, and a
> >> cleaner, better, stronger land will lie in the sunshine when the storm
> has
> >> cleared."
> >>
> >> You recognise that, of course.
> >>
> >> --- On Sat, 13/6/09, dryad <dryad0404 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> abut time, if you ask me...
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com>
> >>
> >> No hurry for cheque dear boy
> >> ........
> >> weather report......Carlton lost by 10 points to the Saints last night
> at
> >> Etihad.see Yesterdays report.
> >> It is a freezing wind blowing here this am.
> >> The Hobbit work of mine is being examined soon by my agent
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>      Need a Holiday? Win a $10,000 Holiday of your choice. Enter now.
> >>
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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Fri Jun 19 09:23:34 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 09:23:34 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Fairy King gets fairy dust
In-Reply-To: <2EBBAA43D2004FA8885FD3DE87897752@Michael>
References: <20090611092113.7gzlsr3hss08kso4@roots-boots.net>
	<2EBBAA43D2004FA8885FD3DE87897752@Michael>
Message-ID: <ecc18000906181623s72c5154eydde5a85fb7eea229@mail.gmail.com>

For the record......Michael sent me $130 to cover the cost of the hire of
the DV hotel room...so MK is owed that while I am square.
V cold here today.....4 degrees possibly this am.
I must repeat how impressed I was with the double spread.....opened out book
cover (the Hobbit one of yore.......Green mit a bit of red and white drawing
.....quite minimal I suppose.....by the prof)...mostly lofty mountains and
with small eagles?..in flight.silhouetted really...... we all know it
well...... but I only REALLY saw it properly in a repro (from a Canberra
Treasures of world Libraries ) in fact....this just this week...one must
look to see.
Now I await instuctions from the traveller to the shaky country re the next
step(s) for the 2010 moot.
love jeff

From mlk at activ8.net.au  Sat Jun 20 18:46:08 2009
From: mlk at activ8.net.au (Michael Kennedy)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 18:46:08 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Fairy King gets fairy dust
In-Reply-To: <ecc18000906181623s72c5154eydde5a85fb7eea229@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2191945F439A4D0D9CDC7D105D528B01@Michael>

I'm pleased the cheque arrived dear Jeff. If they need to replace the ball
for any of the weekend games you could offer it as a fair substitute. Not
because the ball may be worth about $130, but because they both should be
able to bounce...ha ha.

4 degrees! What is that my friends. I have been in beautiful Christchurch
the last few days and my car thermometer recorded  0 degrees C. I took a
photo with my phone but I'm still working out how to transfer them to the PC
so I can show you. As well as that I have some shots of the spellbinding
southern alps. The mountains and valleys were like storm-waves, the darkest
green, and frozen in time. With a dusting of snow-white ice you can imagine
how beautiful it must have looked. We flew quite low over them and it must
rank as one of the most scenic ascents of all.  

The next step for the Seminar is to conjure, cement and certify a title and
theme. I have a few working ideas but nothing that stokes my core. Maybe we
should just run with 'Talkin about Tolkien' or 'Force of Hobbit' (get it?).
Or maybe something to do with the history (in any sense) of Middle-earth,
and its relevance to today. Or maybe 'The Humanity of Tolkien's world' or
'Tolkien's Vision'. I don't mind the latter as it's quite open to various
interpretations. Anyway, tell me what you're thinking while I dust off my
Tolkien books. I still haven't read the latest release but I do now have a
copy. Have you read it Ted?

Michael

> -----Original Message-----
> From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
> bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Lynch
> Sent: Friday, 19 June 2009 9:24 AM
> To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Fairy King gets fairy dust
> 
> For the record......Michael sent me $130 to cover the cost of
> the hire of
> the DV hotel room...so MK is owed that while I am square.
> V cold here today.....4 degrees possibly this am.
> I must repeat how impressed I was with the double
> spread.....opened out book
> cover (the Hobbit one of yore.......Green mit a bit of red and
> white drawing
> .....quite minimal I suppose.....by the prof)...mostly lofty
> mountains and
> with small eagles?..in flight.silhouetted really...... we all
> know it
> well...... but I only REALLY saw it properly in a repro (from a
> Canberra
> Treasures of world Libraries ) in fact....this just this
> week...one must
> look to see.
> Now I await instuctions from the traveller to the shaky country
> re the next
> step(s) for the 2010 moot.
> love jeff
> _______________________________________________
> List mailing list
> List at tolharndor.org
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From krenon at y7mail.com  Sat Jun 20 19:22:39 2009
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 02:22:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Fairy King gets fairy dust
Message-ID: <686558.6365.qm@web110210.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

4 degrees? We had a day recently where that was the max. Fairy King land sometimes doesn't get over 0 all day in the winter, but Brenda Lyon grows fine daffodils at her farm (Falkirk) there. As for the South Island, yes I can imagine it as Caradhras.

A title or theme for the seminar? Have we got anything that's especially relevant to current events? I can't think of anything offhand, but I'd be thinking about Aussiecon and Melbourne, plus such things as world economy, swine flu, Iran and North Korea making bombs ... or should I ignore those things? I would, however. like to make some connection with Aussiecon. You may find that people already registered to go to it are interested in Tolkien (other than Elise, about whom we know). I'll happily pass on anything to the Aussiecon committee. 

Michael, I've so far only browsed Sigurd and Gudrun. It's by no means an easy read - not the sort of thing you can take to bed at night. I've been pondering the general question of "fairies" including elves dwarves etc and I've again carefully read Tolkien's "On Fairy-stories", coming up with a few more thoughts. I'm sure that there are aspects of Tolkien study that deserve more attention and they include some of the material that Peter covered in his BA Hons thesis (which is well worth another look if you haven't read it in a while).

Oh, btw, the 2010 World Fantasy Convention is to be held in Columbus, Ohio, USA in late October 2010 and I'm thinking about going to it, for a variety of reasons.

Cheers

Herendil

--- On Sat, 20/6/09, Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au> wrote:

I'm pleased the cheque arrived dear Jeff. If they need to replace the ball
for any of the weekend games you could offer it as a fair substitute. Not
because the ball may be worth about $130, but because they both should be
able to bounce...ha ha.

4 degrees! What is that my friends. I have been in beautiful Christchurch
the last few days and my car thermometer recorded? 0 degrees C. I took a
photo with my phone but I'm still working out how to transfer them to the PC
so I can show you. As well as that I have some shots of the spellbinding
southern alps. The mountains and valleys were like storm-waves, the darkest
green, and frozen in time. With a dusting of snow-white ice you can imagine
how beautiful it must have looked. We flew quite low over them and it must
rank as one of the most scenic ascents of all.? 

The next step for the Seminar is to conjure, cement and certify a title and
theme. I have a few working ideas but nothing that stokes my core. Maybe we
should just run with 'Talkin about Tolkien' or 'Force of Hobbit' (get it?).
Or maybe something to do with the history (in any sense) of Middle-earth,
and its relevance to today. Or maybe 'The Humanity of Tolkien's world' or
'Tolkien's Vision'. I don't mind the latter as it's quite open to various
interpretations. Anyway, tell me what you're thinking while I dust off my
Tolkien books. I still haven't read the latest release but I do now have a
copy. Have you read it Ted?

Michael





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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Sun Jun 21 10:45:13 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 10:45:13 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Fairy King gets fairy dust
In-Reply-To: <686558.6365.qm@web110210.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <686558.6365.qm@web110210.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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Caradhras........a fine ringing, singing and eagle wingingsong to the ear
that it is too my man.
Or somebody's man for Ted is no man's man that I know of.
Ah Mihkail ...you wax lyrically wonderful and wonderingly this day
ok?...engineering words from the ether andnot pausing to think whether it
teases us too earthbound creatures too much...and as such stormwaves from
valleys and mountains speaks volumes of inmodestly  trapped poesy....too
much methinks for a poor boy of science.

And Ted's almost matching with his fine catching of Caradhras.......... it's
a sound singing in our ears like the lonely eagles of the soaring points of
the earth of ours....caught in the eyes of a flying boy............
And now to the conference.......Histories of the M?......a fine
idea.........
finer(not so cold here) this am.....
Water may just tumble from Melbourne's achingly dry skies
love jeff

PS Humboldt @ 94,000 words.



On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:

> 4 degrees? We had a day recently where that was the max. Fairy King land
> sometimes doesn't get over 0 all day in the winter, but Brenda Lyon grows
> fine daffodils at her farm (Falkirk) there. As for the South Island, yes I
> can imagine it as Caradhras.
>
> A title or theme for the seminar? Have we got anything that's especially
> relevant to current events? I can't think of anything offhand, but I'd be
> thinking about Aussiecon and Melbourne, plus such things as world economy,
> swine flu, Iran and North Korea making bombs ... or should I ignore those
> things? I would, however. like to make some connection with Aussiecon. You
> may find that people already registered to go to it are interested in
> Tolkien (other than Elise, about whom we know). I'll happily pass on
> anything to the Aussiecon committee.
>
> Michael, I've so far only browsed Sigurd and Gudrun. It's by no means an
> easy read - not the sort of thing you can take to bed at night. I've been
> pondering the general question of "fairies" including elves dwarves etc and
> I've again carefully read Tolkien's "On Fairy-stories", coming up with a few
> more thoughts. I'm sure that there are aspects of Tolkien study that deserve
> more attention and they include some of the material that Peter covered in
> his BA Hons thesis (which is well worth another look if you haven't read it
> in a while).
>
> Oh, btw, the 2010 World Fantasy Convention is to be held in Columbus, Ohio,
> USA in late October 2010 and I'm thinking about going to it, for a variety
> of reasons.
>
> Cheers
>
> Herendil
>
> --- On Sat, 20/6/09, Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au> wrote:
>
> I'm pleased the cheque arrived dear Jeff. If they need to replace the ball
> for any of the weekend games you could offer it as a fair substitute. Not
> because the ball may be worth about $130, but because they both should be
> able to bounce...ha ha.
>
> 4 degrees! What is that my friends. I have been in beautiful Christchurch
> the last few days and my car thermometer recorded  0 degrees C. I took a
> photo with my phone but I'm still working out how to transfer them to the
> PC
> so I can show you. As well as that I have some shots of the spellbinding
> southern alps. The mountains and valleys were like storm-waves, the darkest
> green, and frozen in time. With a dusting of snow-white ice you can imagine
> how beautiful it must have looked. We flew quite low over them and it must
> rank as one of the most scenic ascents of all.
>
> The next step for the Seminar is to conjure, cement and certify a title and
> theme. I have a few working ideas but nothing that stokes my core. Maybe we
> should just run with 'Talkin about Tolkien' or 'Force of Hobbit' (get it?).
> Or maybe something to do with the history (in any sense) of Middle-earth,
> and its relevance to today. Or maybe 'The Humanity of Tolkien's world' or
> 'Tolkien's Vision'. I don't mind the latter as it's quite open to various
> interpretations. Anyway, tell me what you're thinking while I dust off my
> Tolkien books. I still haven't read the latest release but I do now have a
> copy. Have you read it Ted?
>
> Michael
>
>
>
>
>
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From krenon at y7mail.com  Mon Jun 22 09:15:10 2009
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 16:15:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Livin' and lovin' and so life mooches on.
Message-ID: <915870.19514.qm@web110212.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Take a moment from your busy lives today, to remember Clarence Michael James Dennis, the poet for whom the mooch of life ended on this day 71 years ago. If you've time, perhaps raise a glass and if you have a hat you may even want to "dip your lid" as his much loved character, the surnameless Bill, did when he met Doreen.

His "sentimental Bloke" is a time machine that will take one back to Melbourne in the early 20th century, when rabbitohs flogged their wares around the pubs and men gathered in back rooms off "Little Lons" to play two-up. Even the hardened street-wise bloke could show a soft side, and indeed fall in love, but the path of true love never runs smooth and it took a few adventures before Bill's desires were fulfilled and he could relax and philosophise. Surely there's something of this character in all of us.

Cheers, C.J., we dip our lids!




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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Mon Jun 22 10:02:18 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:02:18 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Livin' and lovin' and so life mooches on.
In-Reply-To: <915870.19514.qm@web110212.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <915870.19514.qm@web110212.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <ecc18000906211702r179a1fa8s7b83465fe6535255@mail.gmail.com>

I concur with Ted.....The Sentimental Bloke is purely and simply
'Timeless'...born really out of the First World War...( actually the Second)
the Napoleonic Wars were in essence a first The Americas (both of
them),including he USofA..... France, Germany, Austria, Italy, Canada,
Russia ,England etc were all affected Plus more....Little Lon (Lt Lonsdale
Street) as Teds says was an area of dinghy bars and slightly brighter
brothels....
Where blokes fought with 'bricks and skewers'....(Dennis).....a rough time
in the growing cities growth....the Speaker's mace  (from the House of Reps
of Vic was once found in a nearby  (to the House) brothel.....no essential
ideas have come forth as to what it's purpose was (in the the madam's
joint)err...that was not rightly put I think......err Dennis created a world
of strife and toil where as Ted points out the stuggle for love and
contentment is eternal and most difficult to find...and once it may be
found..... to keep!
Amen
jeff



On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:

> Take a moment from your busy lives today, to remember Clarence Michael
> James Dennis, the poet for whom the mooch of life ended on this day 71 years
> ago. If you've time, perhaps raise a glass and if you have a hat you may
> even want to "dip your lid" as his much loved character, the surnameless
> Bill, did when he met Doreen.
>
> His "sentimental Bloke" is a time machine that will take one back to
> Melbourne in the early 20th century, when rabbitohs flogged their wares
> around the pubs and men gathered in back rooms off "Little Lons" to play
> two-up. Even the hardened street-wise bloke could show a soft side, and
> indeed fall in love, but the path of true love never runs smooth and it took
> a few adventures before Bill's desires were fulfilled and he could relax and
> philosophise. Surely there's something of this character in all of us.
>
> Cheers, C.J., we dip our lids!
>
>
>
>
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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Tue Jun 23 09:36:09 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:36:09 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Livin' and lovin' and so life mooches on.
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I'm awaiting tremendous vibrations from the noth re the constituent (parts)
and vibrant themes (of) the conference in 2010.......

As the weather is a trifle boring today I won't give you local
report......but a report from Hobbiton......tis mowing time agin in Hobbiton
and the local cricket side is a little wary of this weeks' coming game at
the oval. And the reason is not hard to fathom. Sam Gangee hurt is arm....a
branch of a tree fell down on him while he and that damn fool Hobbit master
of  his who had never been the same since he went of and got himself mixed
up with Gandalf the crazy oldfireworks man and all round meddler in
things(often dragon things) which ought not concern him at all....apparently
it seems that the little idiot hobbit-master let go of the rope holding the
branch at the wrong time
Ah ti stypical of the cack handed fellow although he's still rervered here
by most (he's not my favourite...but you all know why!....and Sam Gangee
suffered an extremely bruised arm....it is in a sling other wise we all know
that he'd still front up. Alsopp Bottomsafe is to take Sam's place..a left
handed opener, he's been in the old master's shadow for two seaons
now......at least the low with his left hand seamers too. Any old hows, Sam
will not be keeping wicket or batting or even sending down his googlies this
saturady.
He will of course be seen coaching his boys (he is the Captain afterall)
from the safety of the pub. Do not fvear Hobbiton's team is still good
enough to win the gams against the 'Bottoms' and the folks from The
Green....as their pub is abbreviated to must be sure to be on their mettle
to win sure enough.
The weather is plumb hot and the beers are running hot out of the barrels in
the cellars of nights too....
Sam's beauty of a wife is of course expecting their fourth child very
soon, so the lay olff might still bring a benefit to this number two family
of the district. Sam is the mayor too of course. Butthen you already knew
that
odds are at even money ....Hobbiton to beat 'The Green'....Green at 2
to 1.... odds on to win
A few greedy Hobbiton punters at the pub are known to have gone for the
t'other team...I think that they will fall on their arses
privately....excuse my French.
Your friendly reporter of your local paper.... The Hobbiton Dragonspread
Jacobady.S. Gammagee
Ps I 've not put any bet on this game so I remain an independent reviewer
Game to fully revioewed by myself early next week....keep punching!

From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 09:45:50 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:45:50 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Livin' and lovin' and so life mooches on.
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>From Jacobady.S. Gammagee, ..as reporter (sport adn social life events) of
The Hobbiton Dragonspreader,

Yesterday I told of the necessary omission of Sam from the Hobbiton
team...cricket team of course....today I have news of a considerable
scandal......This concerns the (sensational) banning of the Sarehole Cricket
Club from the competition.
The Green man team (the Greens as they are known locally)..... hadn't really
meant the incident (which admittedly they did report to Asbendidi Crowlock,
the secretary of the Shire and Easts Cricket League) to have so many legs.
It's a sixer ewhen we only meant to tickle the ball down to fine leg for a
three perhaps, if we was lucky (their vice captain told me this).....but the
thing has now gotten completely out of hand.
I do not intend to tell all the tale....That would get too many fine people
into more strife(mostly with their wives and girlfriends) but the incident
(as I will refer to it from now on DOES refer to the giving out of the Green
Man's Captain.....in other words Victor.S. Tumpinghole the third.
He was finally given out by the (relieving umpire....the well known and
highly respected Dr Wherely.P. Uppingshires from the fine holey house by
the Mere .....close by the Green Man pub under an old but rarely applied
ruling of the Rules of Cricket.
The good Doctor was to be the last man batting for The Green Man team and
because the regular umpire Holley.Bitum. Worthytum was incapacitated by Hay
Fever...it being the height of the hay mowing and all...the good Doctor
stood in for the good umpire...so well known in all his judgements over
these many long years in the competition.
It seems that Mr Victor .S. Tumpinghole the third, was somewhat ensconced in
the Green Man pub when the runout of Harada. Shirleybotts was
made..........The  captain of the team (ie Victor) was to take block as the
next man in...I mean Victor. P. Tumpinghole the third. We all know him
better as that fine farner of Hops and mealy doses at Sarehole.
Well to cut a long strory to just a mildly long yarn........Victor was a
little too exposed to the lovely drop in The Green Man (or so some folks did
say)......He did not get himself out of the grog place quite in time enow
..,.....and the fact of the matter is that he was given out by (the honest)
Dr who adjudged him 'out' under the rule of 'failure to take wicket.'

This is the ruling which states that a batsman is to be given so many
minutes to take guard for the bowler to commence a delivery at him. Thus he
was given out and all the fuss started....or ie The Game was ended......
there and then..... and well as I hinted at before..... a lot was said that
should not have been and a lot more was done that was excrable and not to
put too fine a point on it, was both illegal, dangeous and possibly
unsporting.......Now I've taken your time up quite enow for the moment.....I
do have to get a deeper report from both sides of 'the incident.' I promise
you honourably that this fearless reporter of The Hobbiton Dragonspreader
will return next week for ..wait for it..The Judgement of The League and the
outcomes ....or the fallouts if you prefer, from the incident.
I will say that two of the wives of the men have declared that they will not
wash their men's cricket clothes again...and that's final.
Yours more less sincerely......
Jacobady. S. Gammagee

From mlk at activ8.net.au  Wed Jun 24 19:24:04 2009
From: mlk at activ8.net.au (Michael Kennedy)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:24:04 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Fairy King gets fairy dust
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Message-ID: <A0BAF62066BA4FE9B99509266FFC12C4@Michael>

I hadn't considered relating the theme to current events. When you say
'connection with Aussiecon' do you mean literally, or just generally with a
science-related theme? Or maybe something else altogether!

Other ideas I was tossing around my cerebellum:

Tolkien Unplugged 

Tolkien through the Ages

Tolkien - mythology, modernity and orcs     

Tolkien - the good, the bad and the ugly.

Tolkien and journeys!

Any takers? 

I'd really like to lock a theme in over the next couple of weeks. Once that
is done I will officially notify the TS and put in a Call for Papers.  

Ted - I was asked to review Sigurd & Gudrun by ABC radio. I told them that
unless it was just about the dust-jacket, it will have to wait. 

Michael


> -----Original Message-----
> From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
> bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Edwin Scribner
> Sent: Saturday, 20 June 2009 7:23 PM
> To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Fairy King gets fairy dust
> 
> 4 degrees? We had a day recently where that was the max. Fairy
> King land sometimes doesn't get over 0 all day in the winter,
> but Brenda Lyon grows fine daffodils at her farm (Falkirk)
> there. As for the South Island, yes I can imagine it as
> Caradhras.
> 
> A title or theme for the seminar? Have we got anything that's
> especially relevant to current events? I can't think of
> anything offhand, but I'd be thinking about Aussiecon and
> Melbourne, plus such things as world economy, swine flu, Iran
> and North Korea making bombs ... or should I ignore those
> things? I would, however. like to make some connection with
> Aussiecon. You may find that people already registered to go to
> it are interested in Tolkien (other than Elise, about whom we
> know). I'll happily pass on anything to the Aussiecon committee.
> 
> Michael, I've so far only browsed Sigurd and Gudrun. It's by no
> means an easy read - not the sort of thing you can take to bed
> at night. I've been pondering the general question of "fairies"
> including elves dwarves etc and I've again carefully read
> Tolkien's "On Fairy-stories", coming up with a few more
> thoughts. I'm sure that there are aspects of Tolkien study that
> deserve more attention and they include some of the material
> that Peter covered in his BA Hons thesis (which is well worth
> another look if you haven't read it in a while).
> 
> Oh, btw, the 2010 World Fantasy Convention is to be held in
> Columbus, Ohio, USA in late October 2010 and I'm thinking about
> going to it, for a variety of reasons.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Herendil
> 
> --- On Sat, 20/6/09, Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au> wrote:
> 
> I'm pleased the cheque arrived dear Jeff. If they need to
> replace the ball
> for any of the weekend games you could offer it as a fair
> substitute. Not
> because the ball may be worth about $130, but because they both
> should be
> able to bounce...ha ha.
> 
> 4 degrees! What is that my friends. I have been in beautiful
> Christchurch
> the last few days and my car thermometer recorded? 0 degrees C.
> I took a
> photo with my phone but I'm still working out how to transfer
> them to the PC
> so I can show you. As well as that I have some shots of the
> spellbinding
> southern alps. The mountains and valleys were like storm-waves,
> the darkest
> green, and frozen in time. With a dusting of snow-white ice you
> can imagine
> how beautiful it must have looked. We flew quite low over them
> and it must
> rank as one of the most scenic ascents of all.
> 
> The next step for the Seminar is to conjure, cement and certify
> a title and
> theme. I have a few working ideas but nothing that stokes my
> core. Maybe we
> should just run with 'Talkin about Tolkien' or 'Force of
> Hobbit' (get it?).
> Or maybe something to do with the history (in any sense) of
> Middle-earth,
> and its relevance to today. Or maybe 'The Humanity of Tolkien's
> world' or
> 'Tolkien's Vision'. I don't mind the latter as it's quite open
> to various
> interpretations. Anyway, tell me what you're thinking while I
> dust off my
> Tolkien books. I still haven't read the latest release but I do
> now have a
> copy. Have you read it Ted?
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Thu Jun 25 09:05:46 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:05:46 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Fairy King gets fairy dust
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Michael....I do like the idea of T and Journeys...we all have them so did T
and so did the H's ......it's really all about journeys ain't it?
So keep on cerebelluming!
jeff

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au> wrote:

> I hadn't considered relating the theme to current events. When you say
> 'connection with Aussiecon' do you mean literally, or just generally with a
> science-related theme? Or maybe something else altogether!
>
> Other ideas I was tossing around my cerebellum:
>
> Tolkien Unplugged
>
> Tolkien through the Ages
>
> Tolkien - mythology, modernity and orcs
>
> Tolkien - the good, the bad and the ugly.
>
> Tolkien and journeys!
>
> Any takers?
>
> I'd really like to lock a theme in over the next couple of weeks. Once that
> is done I will officially notify the TS and put in a Call for Papers.
>
> Ted - I was asked to review Sigurd & Gudrun by ABC radio. I told them that
> unless it was just about the dust-jacket, it will have to wait.
>
> Michael
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
> > bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Edwin Scribner
> > Sent: Saturday, 20 June 2009 7:23 PM
> > To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
> > Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Fairy King gets fairy dust
> >
>  > 4 degrees? We had a day recently where that was the max. Fairy
> > King land sometimes doesn't get over 0 all day in the winter,
> > but Brenda Lyon grows fine daffodils at her farm (Falkirk)
> > there. As for the South Island, yes I can imagine it as
> > Caradhras.
> >
> > A title or theme for the seminar? Have we got anything that's
> > especially relevant to current events? I can't think of
> > anything offhand, but I'd be thinking about Aussiecon and
> > Melbourne, plus such things as world economy, swine flu, Iran
> > and North Korea making bombs ... or should I ignore those
> > things? I would, however. like to make some connection with
> > Aussiecon. You may find that people already registered to go to
> > it are interested in Tolkien (other than Elise, about whom we
> > know). I'll happily pass on anything to the Aussiecon committee.
> >
> > Michael, I've so far only browsed Sigurd and Gudrun. It's by no
> > means an easy read - not the sort of thing you can take to bed
> > at night. I've been pondering the general question of "fairies"
> > including elves dwarves etc and I've again carefully read
> > Tolkien's "On Fairy-stories", coming up with a few more
> > thoughts. I'm sure that there are aspects of Tolkien study that
> > deserve more attention and they include some of the material
> > that Peter covered in his BA Hons thesis (which is well worth
> > another look if you haven't read it in a while).
> >
> > Oh, btw, the 2010 World Fantasy Convention is to be held in
> > Columbus, Ohio, USA in late October 2010 and I'm thinking about
> > going to it, for a variety of reasons.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Herendil
> >
> > --- On Sat, 20/6/09, Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au> wrote:
> >
> > I'm pleased the cheque arrived dear Jeff. If they need to
> > replace the ball
> > for any of the weekend games you could offer it as a fair
> > substitute. Not
> > because the ball may be worth about $130, but because they both
> > should be
> > able to bounce...ha ha.
> >
> > 4 degrees! What is that my friends. I have been in beautiful
> > Christchurch
> > the last few days and my car thermometer recorded  0 degrees C.
> > I took a
> > photo with my phone but I'm still working out how to transfer
> > them to the PC
> > so I can show you. As well as that I have some shots of the
> > spellbinding
> > southern alps. The mountains and valleys were like storm-waves,
> > the darkest
> > green, and frozen in time. With a dusting of snow-white ice you
> > can imagine
> > how beautiful it must have looked. We flew quite low over them
> > and it must
> > rank as one of the most scenic ascents of all.
> >
> > The next step for the Seminar is to conjure, cement and certify
> > a title and
> > theme. I have a few working ideas but nothing that stokes my
> > core. Maybe we
> > should just run with 'Talkin about Tolkien' or 'Force of
> > Hobbit' (get it?).
> > Or maybe something to do with the history (in any sense) of
> > Middle-earth,
> > and its relevance to today. Or maybe 'The Humanity of Tolkien's
> > world' or
> > 'Tolkien's Vision'. I don't mind the latter as it's quite open
> > to various
> > interpretations. Anyway, tell me what you're thinking while I
> > dust off my
> > Tolkien books. I still haven't read the latest release but I do
> > now have a
> > copy. Have you read it Ted?
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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From dryad0404 at yahoo.co.uk  Thu Jun 25 14:00:56 2009
From: dryad0404 at yahoo.co.uk (dryad)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:00:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Fairy King gets fairy dust
Message-ID: <41460.33955.qm@web24608.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

I love them!? My fav is the Tolkien: myth mod monster!

--- On Wed, 24/6/09, Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au> wrote:


From: Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au>
Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Fairy King gets fairy dust
To: "'Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society'" <list at tolharndor.org>
Date: Wednesday, 24 June, 2009, 5:24 AM


I hadn't considered relating the theme to current events. When you say
'connection with Aussiecon' do you mean literally, or just generally with a
science-related theme? Or maybe something else altogether!

Other ideas I was tossing around my cerebellum:

Tolkien Unplugged 

Tolkien through the Ages

Tolkien - mythology, modernity and orcs? ???

Tolkien - the good, the bad and the ugly.

Tolkien and journeys!

Any takers? 

I'd really like to lock a theme in over the next couple of weeks. Once that
is done I will officially notify the TS and put in a Call for Papers.? 

Ted - I was asked to review Sigurd & Gudrun by ABC radio. I told them that
unless it was just about the dust-jacket, it will have to wait. 

Michael


> -----Original Message-----
> From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
> bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Edwin Scribner
> Sent: Saturday, 20 June 2009 7:23 PM
> To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Fairy King gets fairy dust
> 
> 4 degrees? We had a day recently where that was the max. Fairy
> King land sometimes doesn't get over 0 all day in the winter,
> but Brenda Lyon grows fine daffodils at her farm (Falkirk)
> there. As for the South Island, yes I can imagine it as
> Caradhras.
> 
> A title or theme for the seminar? Have we got anything that's
> especially relevant to current events? I can't think of
> anything offhand, but I'd be thinking about Aussiecon and
> Melbourne, plus such things as world economy, swine flu, Iran
> and North Korea making bombs ... or should I ignore those
> things? I would, however. like to make some connection with
> Aussiecon. You may find that people already registered to go to
> it are interested in Tolkien (other than Elise, about whom we
> know). I'll happily pass on anything to the Aussiecon committee.
> 
> Michael, I've so far only browsed Sigurd and Gudrun. It's by no
> means an easy read - not the sort of thing you can take to bed
> at night. I've been pondering the general question of "fairies"
> including elves dwarves etc and I've again carefully read
> Tolkien's "On Fairy-stories", coming up with a few more
> thoughts. I'm sure that there are aspects of Tolkien study that
> deserve more attention and they include some of the material
> that Peter covered in his BA Hons thesis (which is well worth
> another look if you haven't read it in a while).
> 
> Oh, btw, the 2010 World Fantasy Convention is to be held in
> Columbus, Ohio, USA in late October 2010 and I'm thinking about
> going to it, for a variety of reasons.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Herendil
> 
> --- On Sat, 20/6/09, Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au> wrote:
> 
> I'm pleased the cheque arrived dear Jeff. If they need to
> replace the ball
> for any of the weekend games you could offer it as a fair
> substitute. Not
> because the ball may be worth about $130, but because they both
> should be
> able to bounce...ha ha.
> 
> 4 degrees! What is that my friends. I have been in beautiful
> Christchurch
> the last few days and my car thermometer recorded? 0 degrees C.
> I took a
> photo with my phone but I'm still working out how to transfer
> them to the PC
> so I can show you. As well as that I have some shots of the
> spellbinding
> southern alps. The mountains and valleys were like storm-waves,
> the darkest
> green, and frozen in time. With a dusting of snow-white ice you
> can imagine
> how beautiful it must have looked. We flew quite low over them
> and it must
> rank as one of the most scenic ascents of all.
> 
> The next step for the Seminar is to conjure, cement and certify
> a title and
> theme. I have a few working ideas but nothing that stokes my
> core. Maybe we
> should just run with 'Talkin about Tolkien' or 'Force of
> Hobbit' (get it?).
> Or maybe something to do with the history (in any sense) of
> Middle-earth,
> and its relevance to today. Or maybe 'The Humanity of Tolkien's
> world' or
> 'Tolkien's Vision'. I don't mind the latter as it's quite open
> to various
> interpretations. Anyway, tell me what you're thinking while I
> dust off my
> Tolkien books. I still haven't read the latest release but I do
> now have a
> copy. Have you read it Ted?
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Sat Jun 27 09:30:26 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 09:30:26 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Fairy King gets fairy dust
In-Reply-To: <41460.33955.qm@web24608.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
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All imaginative ,sensitive, literate (even poetic) Aussies know the
importance of something about to occurr in Wales.in approx two
weeks..........
Michael knows that is because he's all of those above things....the Ashes
start at Cardiff!
Yes grab your ABC Cricket book.....M prob has his
already..................................... and settle by the
radio......you dash into the telly every time a wicket falls.....you also
read jeff lynch on cricket in the Shire (well you might!).....there WILL be
more!
So it is soon to be on again.............this is bigger than anything except
the Ring going into the bloody volcano.......trust me...you do?
THat's odd!
jeff ........with 007 love.

From dragon at roots-boots.net  Sat Jun 27 11:04:52 2009
From: dragon at roots-boots.net (Marayong)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 11:04:52 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Fairy King gets fairy dust
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	<ecc18000906261630q239c0a3cpa0a98e3a297acb82@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A457034.4080303@roots-boots.net>

Jeff Lynch wrote:
> All imaginative ,sensitive, literate (even poetic) Aussies know the
> importance of something about to occurr in Wales.in approx two
> weeks..........

My apologies for not knowing .. I've been down the past week with a 
nasty sinus infection ... still down with it. Fortunately the mail list 
software continues to merrily operate whether I'm operating or not. :)

> So it is soon to be on again.............this is bigger than anything except
> the Ring going into the bloody volcano.......trust me...you do?

The Ring went into the volcano? That was the fake ring. The real one is 
still around, just somewhat morphed for the modern times ... and as with 
any sentient entity, it has since produced many offspring.

Oink, Oink!
... If it coughs, has a fever, is congested, aches & pains etc ... is it 
swine flu? :)

David


> THat's odd!
> jeff ........with 007 love.
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From krenon at y7mail.com  Sat Jun 27 13:39:25 2009
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:39:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Fairy King gets fairy dust
Message-ID: <797304.50982.qm@web110216.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

At first I was about to go to the Wikipedia to find out when Dylan Thomas was born and died, to see if it was one of those dates you were celebrating. Do not go, gentle(men)!

As for cricket in the Shire (btw, the councillors of Sutherland Shire seem to think that it and only it is *THE* Shire!), it would explain Old Man Willow's disposition towards Merry and Pippin :)

I'll write another letter in consideration of Michael's suggestions for a seminar title, but I don't think the title matters much so long as it does not unduly restrict the scope of papers.

The worldly hope men set their hearts upon
Turns ashes, or it prospers, and anon,
Like snow upon the desert's dusty face,
Lighting a little hour or two, is gone

(which is at least a little hour or two longer than snow has been on the ground up here lately)

Herendil

--- On Sat, 27/6/09, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:

All imaginative ,sensitive, literate (even poetic) Aussies know the
importance of something about to occurr in Wales.in approx two
weeks..........
Michael knows that is because he's all of those above things....the Ashes
start at Cardiff!
Yes grab your ABC Cricket book.....M prob has his
already..................................... and settle by the
radio......you dash into the telly every time a wicket falls.....you also
read jeff lynch on cricket in the Shire (well you might!).....there WILL be
more!
So it is soon to be on again.............this is bigger than anything except
the Ring going into the bloody volcano.......trust me...you do?
THat's odd!
jeff ........with 007 love.




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From krenon at y7mail.com  Sat Jun 27 13:47:52 2009
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:47:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Fairy King gets fairy dust
Message-ID: <525515.97404.qm@web110209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Given the show that the volcano put on when the fake (so you say) ring was dropped in, I'd have liked to hear about what would happen were the real one thrown in.

As for your nasty s(w)inus infection: drink lots of whisky. It doesn't cure it but it makes you forget that you've got it.

Still awaiting snow...

--- On Sat, 27/6/09, Marayong <dragon at roots-boots.net> wrote:


Jeff Lynch wrote:
> All imaginative ,sensitive, literate (even poetic) Aussies know the
> importance of something about to occurr in Wales.in approx two
> weeks..........

My apologies for not knowing .. I've been down the past week with a 
nasty sinus infection ... still down with it. Fortunately the mail list 
software continues to merrily operate whether I'm operating or not. :)

> So it is soon to be on again.............this is bigger than anything except
> the Ring going into the bloody volcano.......trust me...you do?

The Ring went into the volcano? That was the fake ring. The real one is 
still around, just somewhat morphed for the modern times ... and as with 
any sentient entity, it has since produced many offspring.

Oink, Oink!
... If it coughs, has a fever, is congested, aches & pains etc ... is it 
swine flu? :)





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From krenon at y7mail.com  Sat Jun 27 14:37:34 2009
From: krenon at y7mail.com (krenon at y7mail.com)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:37:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Fairy King gets fairy dust
Message-ID: <602447.38959.qm@web110211.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I meant the connection between the Tolkien seminar and Aussiecon4 to be no more than that of the Birmingham Tolkien seminar and Interaction (world sf con at Glasgow - a week before the Tolkien event iirc). I'd suggest a note to the right person in Aussiecon 4 publicity (I'll make sure of just who that right person is) so as have the info on the Aussiecon 4 web page.

Regarding the suggested titles:

- Unplugged - what would he otherwise be plugged into? I'm mystified by that one.

- Through the ages? The ages of Middle-Earth or recent real ages? If you could think of a better word or words to cover the period from 1954 to now I think there would be value in that. I recall hearing a certain misguided person at Con Jos? (worldcon 2002) saying that she thought Tolkien's works were now "dead".
 Then there was China
 Mi?ville's comments about Tolkien and "consolation" (to him: "mollycoddling"). Then this slim biography by Michael Coren, who points out that, despite a lot of literary snobs disliking the fact, LotR is still the most popular book in the last 100 years. It justifies some erudite discussion about just where Tolkien's works now stand in the whole area of fiction and especially the smaller domain of speculative fiction.

- Not sure about mythology, modernity and orcs. For me it conjures up images of orcs dressed in the latest fashions, which seems completely incongruous. Did you have a more pertinent idea regarding that? I see that Elise likes it, especially when paraphrased "myth, mod, monster". Perhaps she sees something that I've missed.

- The Good the Bad and the Ugly bothers me a bit too. In Middle Earth I get the feeling that the bad and the ugly are one and the same, as are the good and the "fair".

- Certainly the Quest was a journey. I guess that Tolkien's own journeys were important to his literary output too, but on the whole it seems only to touch the
 edge
 of the field open to a Tolkien seminar.

As you would gather from the above comments, I favour the notion of "through the ages" provided that "ages" is qualified suitably. Even then I would hope that papers off this topic but firmly connected to Tolkien would be eligible for presentation or at least for selection to be presented.

I've been reading a bit more of Sigurd and Gudrun. I see that the legend of Sigurd is the source that Wagner mined for his Ring operas. That put the story in a bit more perspective for me. However I'm a long way off being able to review the book.

--- On Wed, 24/6/09, Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au> wrote:


I hadn't considered relating the theme to current events. When you say
'connection with Aussiecon' do you mean literally, or just generally with a
science-related theme? Or maybe something else
 altogether!

Other ideas I was tossing around my cerebellum:

Tolkien Unplugged 

Tolkien through the Ages

Tolkien - mythology, modernity and orcs? ???

Tolkien - the good, the bad and the ugly.

Tolkien and journeys!

Any takers? 

I'd really like to lock a theme in over the next couple of
 weeks. Once that
is done I will officially notify the TS and put in a Call for Papers.? 

Ted - I was asked to review Sigurd & Gudrun by ABC radio. I told them that
unless it was just about the dust-jacket, it will have to wait. 





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From mlk at activ8.net.au  Sat Jun 27 19:32:10 2009
From: mlk at activ8.net.au (Michael Kennedy)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 19:32:10 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Fairy King gets fairy dust
In-Reply-To: <ecc18000906261630q239c0a3cpa0a98e3a297acb82@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA11A051C1774A10904CE79273BFEE50@Michael>

Oh yes! The Ashes are nigh! Warriors in white, at war for the Holy Grail!
All is in readiness for what should be a close battle. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
> bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Lynch
> Sent: Saturday, 27 June 2009 9:30 AM
> To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Fairy King gets fairy dust
> 
> All imaginative ,sensitive, literate (even poetic) Aussies know
> the
> importance of something about to occurr in Wales.in approx two
> weeks..........
> Michael knows that is because he's all of those above
> things....the Ashes
> start at Cardiff!
> Yes grab your ABC Cricket book.....M prob has his
> already..................................... and settle by the
> radio......you dash into the telly every time a wicket
> falls.....you also
> read jeff lynch on cricket in the Shire (well you
> might!).....there WILL be
> more!
> So it is soon to be on again.............this is bigger than
> anything except
> the Ring going into the bloody volcano.......trust me...you do?
> THat's odd!
> jeff ........with 007 love.
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From mlk at activ8.net.au  Sat Jun 27 19:32:10 2009
From: mlk at activ8.net.au (Michael Kennedy)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 19:32:10 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Fairy King gets fairy dust
In-Reply-To: <602447.38959.qm@web110211.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <7ABC0CBEB39C4621B58346DEDC2705BC@Michael>

Ted wrote:

> I meant the connection between the Tolkien seminar and
> Aussiecon4 to be no more than that of the Birmingham Tolkien
> seminar and Interaction (world sf con at Glasgow - a week
> before the Tolkien event iirc). I'd suggest a note to the right
> person in Aussiecon 4 publicity (I'll make sure of just who
> that right person is) so as have the info on the Aussiecon 4
> web page.

Excellent! I think that will raise a lot of interest.

> Regarding the suggested titles:
> 
> - Unplugged - what would he otherwise be plugged into? I'm
> mystified by that one.

To me 'unplugged' is the idea that something is in its raw state, or not
trammeled by gloss. It's listening to Tolkien acoustically if you like.

> - Through the ages? The ages of Middle-Earth or recent real
> ages? If you could think of a better word or words to cover the
> period from 1954 to now I think there would be value in that. I
> recall hearing a certain misguided person at Con Jos? (worldcon
> 2002) saying that she thought Tolkien's works were now "dead".
>  Then there was China
>  Mi?ville's comments about Tolkien and "consolation" (to him:
> "mollycoddling"). Then this slim biography by Michael Coren,
> who points out that, despite a lot of literary snobs disliking
> the fact, LotR is still the most popular book in the last 100
> years. It justifies some erudite discussion about just where
> Tolkien's works now stand in the whole area of fiction and
> especially the smaller domain of speculative fiction.

Through the ages? It doesn't matter if one interprets this as Middle-earth
time or real time. That's the whole point of having a 'loose' theme that's
open to interpretation.

> - Not sure about mythology, modernity and orcs. For me it
> conjures up images of orcs dressed in the latest fashions,
> which seems completely incongruous. Did you have a more
> pertinent idea regarding that? I see that Elise likes it,
> especially when paraphrased "myth, mod, monster". Perhaps she
> sees something that I've missed.

I was just throwing words together for this one in an effort to have
something a little oddball. Elise's modification is superior.

> - The Good the Bad and the Ugly bothers me a bit too. In Middle
> Earth I get the feeling that the bad and the ugly are one and
> the same, as are the good and the "fair".

True, but again these words don't necessarily define characters. It could
relate to anything from poetry to plot. However, I hear what you're saying
and perhaps most people would interpret it the same way as you.

> - Certainly the Quest was a journey. I guess that Tolkien's own
> journeys were important to his literary output too, but on the
> whole it seems only to touch the
>  edge
>  of the field open to a Tolkien seminar.

Perhaps so. Maybe 'Tolkien - The Journey' would open it up to a wider range
of possibilities. 

What about:

Tolkien : Fate, freedom and the Journey (or the Quest)
Or
Tolkien: Fate, Freedom and the Fall
Or
Tolkien: Cricket :-)

> As you would gather from the above comments, I favour the
> notion of "through the ages" provided that "ages" is qualified
> suitably. Even then I would hope that papers off this topic but
> firmly connected to Tolkien would be eligible for presentation
> or at least for selection to be presented.


There really only has to be a tangible connection to the theme. I think
we're getting closer!

 
> I've been reading a bit more of Sigurd and Gudrun. I see that
> the legend of Sigurd is the source that Wagner mined for his
> Ring operas. That put the story in a bit more perspective for
> me. However I'm a long way off being able to review the book.

Me too!







From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Sun Jun 28 10:01:52 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 10:01:52 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Fairy King gets fairy dust
In-Reply-To: <7ABC0CBEB39C4621B58346DEDC2705BC@Michael>
References: <602447.38959.qm@web110211.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<7ABC0CBEB39C4621B58346DEDC2705BC@Michael>
Message-ID: <ecc18000906271701n7ae604d5g85aa6e3320b592f4@mail.gmail.com>

Glamorgan Cricket Ground (Cardiff).............ten sleeps or eleven days.

Now I've hard at work researching the Shire Cricket League.....there is the
small difficulty that during "The Scourging of The Shire period some of the
records were lost.....but luckily the old newspapers of The
Dragonspreader...published in Bywater are to hand.....not yet put to disc
though.........................
It seems that there were (prior to the adventure years) ten cricket teams in
the league.
Some (the bigger towns) like Bywater, Hobbiton and Frogmorton you would
(have) expected....but still there were (at least to me) a few
surprises........Scary had a team as did Needlebotom!!!!!

The ten (teams meant of course that no bye was needed.).....that was good
wasn't it?
After the adventure years two teams could no longer field a team....Scary
was one of those...... and another team came into the league ...meaning that
there were now only nine teams.
Of course that meant a weekly bye.......

Now of course many teams were based around the local pubs  pubs such as The
Green Dragon @ Bywater    The Ivy..(on the Hobbiton side of Bywater)....full
name being of course The Ivy Bush.....and at Frogmorton....south of The
Water (a lake) was The Floating Log.....in fact five teams sprang from these
three pubs (at various times)....a few of the more rural teams(such as
Needlebottom) were naturally farmer based teams....examples are Scary and
Needlebottom and indeed Scary did not even possess a ground of their own.
Those folks who can remember back a long way to my Shires verse piece may
remember that the greatest player by a long shot was Sam G.....as(in former
days was his Father the Gaffer)
Now I do believe that I've also come across the full fixture  of The shire
league for at least three years...........and wait for it I intend to
publish in full the local cricket commentator
's (reporter I mean )...accounts of the weekly matches.....or at least
highlights as seen by a contemporaray of Sam Gamgees.....this by (A FORMER
CRICKET PLAYER HIMSELF) who published extensively in the
Dragonspreader....he was it must be said a rather garrulous and opioned
commentator and a former rival of the great Sam Gamgee.... (this
reporter Captained a team at the height of his powers and was once a demon
fast bowler.....not to be missed)
keep tuned.....
love jeff

From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 09:01:39 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:01:39 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Fairy King gets fairy dust
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Dear all,
Now (to those who've not fallen asleep.....I mentioned 3 pubs as being
influencial in Cricket  affairs in the Shire .......
I missed out on one .......I kinda knew there was another one.( a pub I
mean).... on The Golden Perch in Stock.
THh others being....... The Green Dragon
The Floating Log in Frogmorton
The Ivy (The Ivy Bush) on the Hobbiton side of Bywater
 I do hope that clears matters up ...I wouldn't want you all to be under any
cloud of cricketmania confusion...........as in ten days time.........I
looked up my 'Shires' piece.....it(THe GP pub was in it!)...dunno where I
got it from ....I don't think that I made it up though?

Weather here is wetly soft,
While my guitar gently weeps
As north fans can and do
After dogs beat them by a lousy 22.

love jeff

From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Tue Jun 30 08:56:04 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:56:04 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Livin' and lovin' and so life mooches on.
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V little to report this day.
am away to Yarrawonga on this Thursday............
Have now arrived almost at an entirely new portal.....ie 100,000 words of
(near) fiction.....ie The Humboldt piece.yay!
It's a book!
jeff