From mlk at activ8.net.au Sun Mar 1 15:54:30 2009 From: mlk at activ8.net.au (Michael Kennedy) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 15:54:30 +1100 Subject: [TolHarndor] Fwd: Sauron's Ring and the Green Lantern Rings of Power In-Reply-To: <14e24b390902260141o20de3f2at160569e31f42d468@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <75F34155748E4D85BFDFC4BA51854ACE@Michael> That's quite an interesting parallel and coincidence. I say 'coincidence' because the 'concept' of the one ruling ring came about in 1938, a couple of years before the first Green lantern comic, so I would be surprised if it had any influence at all. Maybe it was the other way round! Was it a US or UK publication? Michael > -----Original Message----- > From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list- > bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Edwin Scribner > Sent: Thursday, 26 February 2009 8:42 PM > To: list at tolharndor.org > Subject: [TolHarndor] Fwd: Sauron's Ring and the Green Lantern > Rings of Power > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Edwin Scribner > Date: Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 12:08 PM > Subject: Sauron's Ring and the Green Lantern Rings of Power > To: list at tolharndor.com > > > While researching the background to Superman in the Wikipedia > (never mind > why - all in good dime), I came across a mention of Green > Lantern > characters. The first paragraph of the Wikipedia article on > Green Lantern > contained: > > "Each Green Lantern possesses a power ring that gives the user > great control > over the physical world as long as the wielder has sufficient > willpower and > strength to wield it. While the ring of the Golden Age Green > Lantern (Alan > Scott) was magically powered, the rings worn by all subsequent > Lanterns were > technological creations of the Guardians of the Universe, who > granted such > rings to worthy candidates. These individuals made up the > intergalactic > police force known as the Green Lantern Corps." > > and > > "Each Green Lantern wields a power ring that can generate a > variety of > effects, sustained purely by the ring wearer's strength of will. > The greater > the user's willpower, the more effective the ring. The limits > of the power > ring's abilities are not clearly defined and it has been > referred to as "the > most powerful weapon in the universe" on more than one occasion. > Across the > years, the ring has been shown capable of accomplishing > anything within the > imagination of the ring bearer. Stories in 2006 retconned the > ring's > long-established lack of effect on yellow objects, stating that > the > ring-wielder need only feel fear and overcome it in order to > affect yellow > objects. In one issue Kyle Rayner blows up an entire yellow sun > in order to > destroy a group of hundreds of unpopulated planets that held > deadly > sicknesses by manipulating the sun's energy to destroy itself." > > There is obviously some considerable resemblance between the > Green Lantern > power ring and Sauron's Ring, the main difference being that > the Green > Lantern rings are apparently directed toward good. Whether this > means that a > villain who manages to possess a Green Lantern ring would > tend to become good, eventually being completely converted to > good - just > the reverse of Sauron's Ring - is not clear, but the origins of > all but the > first Green Lantern Ring are similar to the origin of Sauron's > Ring, but > made for good rather than evil. > > The first Green Lantern comic came out in 1940. Although I > can't visualise > JRRT reading comics, it must be admitted that he could have had > some > influence from the Green Lantern stories. The phrase "as long > as the wielder > has sufficient willpower and strength to wield it" is, I think, > particularly > telling. > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at tolharndor.org > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org From dragon at roots-boots.net Sun Mar 1 16:43:01 2009 From: dragon at roots-boots.net (Marayong) Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:43:01 +1100 Subject: [TolHarndor] Fwd: Sauron's Ring and the Green Lantern Rings of Power In-Reply-To: <75F34155748E4D85BFDFC4BA51854ACE@Michael> References: <75F34155748E4D85BFDFC4BA51854ACE@Michael> Message-ID: <49AA2065.7040901@roots-boots.net> Michael Kennedy wrote: > That's quite an interesting parallel and coincidence. I say 'coincidence' > because the 'concept' of the one ruling ring came about in 1938, a couple of > years before the first Green lantern comic, so I would be surprised if it > had any influence at all. Indeed. > Maybe it was the other way round! Was it a US or UK publication? USA I believe. Besides, there're plenty of rings and ruling rings in mythology. cheers, David -- Line dancing, Genealogy, Travel, Photography, Local history & more! http://roots-boots.net mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for it to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com Mon Mar 2 09:28:30 2009 From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 09:28:30 +1100 Subject: [TolHarndor] Fwd: Sauron's Ring and the Green Lantern Rings of Power In-Reply-To: <49AA2065.7040901@roots-boots.net> References: <75F34155748E4D85BFDFC4BA51854ACE@Michael> <49AA2065.7040901@roots-boots.net> Message-ID: Noanswer to Superman's (real) Dad? it was Jor-El.....obviously from the planet Krypton....dunno his Mum's name tho Love jeff PS .............they tell us that Tues (tomorrow) will be another v hot and bushy alarm day.......high winds re expected as well............and as...some fires are still burning up there it is a worry!......but no towns (on this Monday) are experiencing direct threat. On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Marayong wrote: > Michael Kennedy wrote: > > That's quite an interesting parallel and coincidence. I say 'coincidence' > > because the 'concept' of the one ruling ring came about in 1938, a couple > of > > years before the first Green lantern comic, so I would be surprised if it > > had any influence at all. > > Indeed. > > > Maybe it was the other way round! Was it a US or UK publication? > > USA I believe. > > Besides, there're plenty of rings and ruling rings in mythology. > > cheers, > David > -- > Line dancing, Genealogy, Travel, Photography, Local history & more! > http://roots-boots.net mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net > The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for it > to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its > own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies > > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at tolharndor.org > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com Tue Mar 3 09:32:17 2009 From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 09:32:17 +1100 Subject: [TolHarndor] Fwd: Sauron's Ring and the Green Lantern Rings of Power In-Reply-To: <49AA2065.7040901@roots-boots.net> References: <75F34155748E4D85BFDFC4BA51854ACE@Michael> <49AA2065.7040901@roots-boots.net> Message-ID: > From the Tol Harndor of Tol Harndor..........no need for me to point out > the built in pun.but I have so there.... > Great News from the (unpredictable) South.......no and I a\m not talking about myself! Dr Sarah Wills (Aust History Dept of Melb Uni) was sitting quietly at a table in tyhe canteen area at the Brunnie Baths...where I do all that sexercising in the water with my lady and the othere women friends of old......We are ALL indeed older than the average citizen and except for moi all much wiser similarly. She 9the Dr) says it is all go for her department rooms......for the 28th August 2010...................... She requires NO payment.I said maybe we could consider an ex gratia (donation) payment.........for her dept that is...not her So soon I will revisit the rooms and give you all sketches and addresses...time enow for all that. In case you have not cottoned on to my foolproof plan......................Mikhail is responsible for ALL the important decisions ...How, Who and When Speaks.and the topics.central and tangential...Moi I'm only the Southern nuts and bolts..............I am alraeady chuffed that we have the Uni premises...........I know of old that our fearless leader is v good at publicity .......I expect that nore folks might be attracted to a uni venue love Jeff From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com Wed Mar 4 09:34:22 2009 From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 09:34:22 +1100 Subject: [TolHarndor] Fwd: Sauron's Ring and the Green Lantern Rings of Power In-Reply-To: <14e24b390902260141o20de3f2at160569e31f42d468@mail.gmail.com> References: <14e24b390902241708q2f4b8c71j1bb11a3586428aa9@mail.gmail.com> <14e24b390902260141o20de3f2at160569e31f42d468@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > > Ah dear mikhail, I neglected to inform you that I promised (Dr) Sarah that you would email her when you had more of an idea of times openinfg and closing and the like.....you joint and (hopefully, I will agree to Mc (host) the shebang. love jeff PS....the weathjer report........... a reasonable and temporate day in the town where we now expect ALL!....nothing or everything. From mlk at activ8.net.au Wed Mar 4 21:46:11 2009 From: mlk at activ8.net.au (Michael Kennedy) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 21:46:11 +1100 Subject: [TolHarndor] Fwd: Sauron's Ring and the Green Lantern Rings ofPower In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Nice work 007! We need to finalise the theme and title for the Seminar and I will then notify the TS of our intention. Following that I'll put out a call for papers. Jeff - can you forward me Sarah's e-mail address? Clearly, the Brunnie Baths is the hub of Brunswick! Michael > -----Original Message----- > From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list- > bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Lynch > Sent: Tuesday, 3 March 2009 9:32 AM > To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society > Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Fwd: Sauron's Ring and the Green > Lantern Rings ofPower > > > From the Tol Harndor of Tol Harndor..........no need for me > to point out > > the built in pun.but I have so there.... > > > Great News from the (unpredictable) South.......no and I a\m > not talking > about myself! > Dr Sarah Wills (Aust History Dept of Melb Uni) was sitting > quietly at a > table in tyhe canteen area at the Brunnie Baths...where I do > all that > sexercising in the water with my lady and the othere women > friends of > old......We are ALL indeed older than the average citizen and > except for moi > all much wiser similarly. > She 9the Dr) says it is all go for her department > rooms......for the 28th > August 2010...................... > She requires NO payment.I said maybe we could consider an ex > gratia > (donation) payment.........for her dept that is...not her > So soon I will revisit the rooms and give you all sketches and > addresses...time enow for all that. > In case you have not cottoned on to my foolproof > plan......................Mikhail is responsible for ALL the > important > decisions ...How, Who and When Speaks.and the topics.central > and > tangential...Moi I'm only the Southern nuts and > bolts..............I am > alraeady chuffed that we have the Uni premises...........I know > of old that > our fearless leader is v good at publicity .......I expect that > nore folks > might be attracted to a uni venue > love Jeff > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at tolharndor.org > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com Thu Mar 5 09:34:01 2009 From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:34:01 +1100 Subject: [TolHarndor] Fwd: Sauron's Ring and the Green Lantern Rings ofPower In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes make that shaken and not stirred Mikhail, The Brunnie baths win again.........please to remember I met DB there too....at what Lorenzo ( u do not need to know who Lorenzo is).......calls Sexercising! Yes I will send her addy to you (prob Manana)....as I said she is apprised fully.......err partially......it would take me a week to fill her in on your abilities, talents and penchants including mania foe slavery,flying High, cricket...that's a lie I did not mention anythinf of your non Howard Trajedies..........mmmmm.....but I did say t hat you were an experienced (media) communicator tho............. but as I've already indicated I told her of your existence......and I also said (quite truthfully) that anything that happens in Tol Harndor is (obviously) your fault...........she does expect you to contact her (PROBABLY BY ELECTRONIC MEANS) .......She says that we would be responsible for seeing that the place is lean afterwards etc And maybe the baths.and their healing and welding power does provide...........As Pascal said....'Le couer a sais raisons que le tete ne connait pas.' et never a truer word was ever written....according to...this ex red headed......hopeless West Brunnie Romantic. Bye the bye.I am Researching Alexander von Humboldt ( from Berlin via Caracas....and New Andalusia)...that is to say in South America.....where Venezuela is today...you scientific bastards out there got some clues for moi?...I have started a journal as written by travelling companion Bonpland ( a Frenchman).......continued..... love Sean On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Michael Kennedy wrote: > Nice work 007! > > We need to finalise the theme and title for the Seminar and I will then > notify the TS of our intention. Following that I'll put out a call for > papers. > > Jeff - can you forward me Sarah's e-mail address? > > Clearly, the Brunnie Baths is the hub of Brunswick! > > Michael > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list- > > bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Lynch > > Sent: Tuesday, 3 March 2009 9:32 AM > > To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society > > Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Fwd: Sauron's Ring and the Green > > Lantern Rings ofPower > > > > > From the Tol Harndor of Tol Harndor..........no need for me > > to point out > > > the built in pun.but I have so there.... > > > > > Great News from the (unpredictable) South.......no and I a\m > > not talking > > about myself! > > Dr Sarah Wills (Aust History Dept of Melb Uni) was sitting > > quietly at a > > table in tyhe canteen area at the Brunnie Baths...where I do > > all that > > sexercising in the water with my lady and the othere women > > friends of > > old......We are ALL indeed older than the average citizen and > > except for moi > > all much wiser similarly. > > She 9the Dr) says it is all go for her department > > rooms......for the 28th > > August 2010...................... > > She requires NO payment.I said maybe we could consider an ex > > gratia > > (donation) payment.........for her dept that is...not her > > So soon I will revisit the rooms and give you all sketches and > > addresses...time enow for all that. > > In case you have not cottoned on to my foolproof > > plan......................Mikhail is responsible for ALL the > > important > > decisions ...How, Who and When Speaks.and the topics.central > > and > > tangential...Moi I'm only the Southern nuts and > > bolts..............I am > > alraeady chuffed that we have the Uni premises...........I know > > of old that > > our fearless leader is v good at publicity .......I expect that > > nore folks > > might be attracted to a uni venue > > love Jeff > > _______________________________________________ > > List mailing list > > List at tolharndor.org > > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at tolharndor.org > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com Fri Mar 6 10:02:55 2009 From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:02:55 +1100 Subject: [TolHarndor] Fwd: Sauron's Ring and the Green Lantern Rings ofPower In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Dear mikhail, As I stated yesterday please to find Dr Sara. Will's addy.................below s.wills at unimelb.edu.au Raining(again) this morn. Umm..am looking for that girl who came out of the water ...(the sea) .........in Dr No! love jeff From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com Sat Mar 7 09:00:28 2009 From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 09:00:28 +1100 Subject: [TolHarndor] Fwd: Sauron's Ring and the Green Lantern Rings of Power In-Reply-To: <14e24b390902260141o20de3f2at160569e31f42d468@mail.gmail.com> References: <14e24b390902241708q2f4b8c71j1bb11a3586428aa9@mail.gmail.com> <14e24b390902260141o20de3f2at160569e31f42d468@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: The weather report.......... Cool again this morn. Noth (Kangaroos to play a practice match agin Port (Adelaide) locally ...just down the road from me....Princess Park.............I may go down forman hour.Mikhail.Hughes.................................A TON!!!!!!!!!!! And the lad has such an unorthodox stance..........err and approach as well....well that's about all the weather that you and I can stand...Hope to go out for a Malaysian (meal) tonight.early! And home to watch.......no not ricket but footy.my lady's tewam plaays in the NAB cup.endless eh? The road goes on and on. love jeff From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com Tue Mar 10 09:02:54 2009 From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:02:54 +1100 Subject: [TolHarndor] Shelob? Maybe even Ungoliant? - in Liverpool. In-Reply-To: <49A38B99.5080105@roots-boots.net> References: <894C114E2A4F4555AC29207F51A7D7C4@Michael> <20090223094203.hf9tno228ss84goc@roots-boots.net> <49A38B99.5080105@roots-boots.net> Message-ID: > > THe weather report ...south of south Ah south of my days..............etc Official Wether Changes. The puddli'n weather is middl'n fine And the f'ing fires went into decline. Autumn's Apollo chases fleeing Daphne, And Melbourne's cooler blessings Run right down to the sea. And moochings are like that proverbial stone. We move with caution or we move alone. There's no easy answer with another human. A small sturm und drang will always be near, It's so damn hard dealing without fuming. And hour or two and I'll show up back. I am here looking pleased, just to pay her back. Cracks papered over we start out once again, Weather forgotten; Melbourne changes so fast, Shine follows frost, follows fire, follows rain. jeff lynch From mlk at activ8.net.au Tue Mar 10 21:11:53 2009 From: mlk at activ8.net.au (Michael Kennedy) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:11:53 +1100 Subject: [TolHarndor] Fwd: Sauron's Ring and the Green Lantern RingsofPower In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <608A78C8E4BA4B1597EEFDB41FC42858@Michael> Thanks Jeff. I will contact Sara and pass on our plans. Be wary of girls that come out of the water - they might be more than they seem! Michael > -----Original Message----- > From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list- > bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Lynch > Sent: Friday, 6 March 2009 10:03 AM > To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society > Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Fwd: Sauron's Ring and the Green > Lantern RingsofPower > > > Dear mikhail, > > As I stated yesterday please to find Dr Sara. Will's > addy.................below > s.wills at unimelb.edu.au > Raining(again) this morn. > Umm..am looking for that girl who came out of the water ...(the > sea) > .........in Dr No! > love jeff > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at tolharndor.org > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com Wed Mar 11 09:29:17 2009 From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 09:29:17 +1100 Subject: [TolHarndor] Fwd: Sauron's Ring and the Green Lantern RingsofPower In-Reply-To: <608A78C8E4BA4B1597EEFDB41FC42858@Michael> References: <608A78C8E4BA4B1597EEFDB41FC42858@Michael> Message-ID: OK Mikhail............. And what should I be up to (in the way of the Seminar ) in the meantime..................? On girl's in the water. It's the olde version of (man weary seamen......at sea) and the multifarious sightings of Mermaids! When does a dugong look sexy? Answer when it's naked and in the sea...................Boom ,Boom. love jeff On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Michael Kennedy wrote: > Thanks Jeff. I will contact Sara and pass on our plans. > > Be wary of girls that come out of the water - they might be more than they > seem! > > Michael > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list- > > bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Lynch > > Sent: Friday, 6 March 2009 10:03 AM > > To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society > > Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Fwd: Sauron's Ring and the Green > > Lantern RingsofPower > > > > > Dear mikhail, > > > > As I stated yesterday please to find Dr Sara. Will's > > addy.................below > > s.wills at unimelb.edu.au > > Raining(again) this morn. > > Umm..am looking for that girl who came out of the water ...(the > > sea) > > .........in Dr No! > > love jeff > > _______________________________________________ > > List mailing list > > List at tolharndor.org > > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at tolharndor.org > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com Tue Mar 17 09:19:53 2009 From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:19:53 +1100 Subject: [TolHarndor] Fwd: Sauron's Ring and the Green Lantern RingsofPower In-Reply-To: <608A78C8E4BA4B1597EEFDB41FC42858@Michael> References: <608A78C8E4BA4B1597EEFDB41FC42858@Michael> Message-ID: Hey Mihkail, You did nae give an answer to what I should be doing viz a viz the Sem! Maybe I already said it too. ie ..........I go back to these rooms and draw up a plan of how and where they are..in the scheme of Vic/Melb/city north/uni....... Well apropos of anything or nothing that's waht I will be about.........soon weather reprt..cool here but warming up.....to 28 by Friday.....my watertank..only 5000 litre IS FULL! And the weather has just trickled over the edge of the world to some place else.................that's good isn't it? jeff From mlk at activ8.net.au Thu Mar 19 16:01:56 2009 From: mlk at activ8.net.au (Michael Kennedy) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:01:56 +1100 Subject: [TolHarndor] Fwd: Sauron's Ring and the Green LanternRingsofPower In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <259F8A8B963342E9BA6B38A9C672CFC0@Michael> Hey Jeff, Don't you be concerned - I'll have plenty for you to do soon enough! Now that we have the venue everything else will revolve around that. At some point we will need to look at caterers but they may have some recommendations. Is this hall used commonly for such talkfests do you know? I'm also in communication with The Tolkien Society to see if this Seminar will be an 'official' on. It will matter not at all as far as us holding the event goes - only in name. There have been a few upheavals in the TS of late. How'd the quake measure up to you last night? Maybe you should start getting out of bed with a little more care? Great news on the full water-tank! We have been procrastinating on that one, but have been lucky with rain this year. Must look into it! Michael > -----Original Message----- > From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list- > bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Lynch > Sent: Tuesday, 17 March 2009 9:20 AM > To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society > Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Fwd: Sauron's Ring and the Green > LanternRingsofPower > > Hey Mihkail, > You did nae give an answer to what I should be doing viz a viz > the Sem! > Maybe I already said it too. > ie ..........I go back to these rooms and draw up a plan of how > and where > they are..in the scheme of Vic/Melb/city north/uni....... > Well apropos of anything or nothing that's waht I will be > about.........soon > weather reprt..cool here but warming up.....to 28 by > Friday.....my > watertank..only 5000 litre IS FULL! > And the weather has just trickled over the edge of the world to > some place > else.................that's good isn't it? > jeff > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at tolharndor.org > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org From krenon at y7mail.com Sun Mar 22 20:01:34 2009 From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 02:01:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [TolHarndor] test Message-ID: <742833.41069.qm@web110201.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Just checking to see that (if) I'm subbed to the list and that the list has no problem with my email address. ? Cheers ? Herendil Stay connected to the people that matter most with a smarter inbox. Take a look http://au.docs.yahoo.com/mail/smarterinbox From krenon at y7mail.com Sun Mar 22 20:04:08 2009 From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 02:04:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [TolHarndor] test Message-ID: <957422.51574.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> It works. Thanks, listmaster. --- On Sun, 22/3/09, Edwin Scribner wrote: Just checking to see that (if) I'm subbed to the list and that the list has no problem with my email address. ? Cheers ? Herendil Stay connected to the people that matter most with a smarter inbox. Take a look http://au.docs.yahoo.com/mail/smarterinbox From krenon at y7mail.com Thu Mar 26 08:53:16 2009 From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:53:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [TolHarndor] "Sagas reveal Vikings were 'first oceanographers' " Message-ID: <967559.35439.qm@web110207.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20127001.500-sagas-reveal-vikings-were-first-oceanographers.html?DCMP=NLC-nletter&nsref=mg20127001.500 ? or ? http://tinyurl.com/c7hb7x ? When Hallstein son of Thorolf Mostbeard found a suitable homestead on Iceland, he sacrificed to Thor, imploring the god to provide the ceremonial high seat posts he needed to complete his great hall. Evidently Thor heard: a mighty log washed ashore, big enough to supply seat posts for all the settlers round about. Years earlier, when Hallstein's father and other Norse pioneers sailed for Iceland, they had found themselves in the opposite fix. They had brought seat posts from home but needed a good place to settle. As they approached Iceland, they tossed their precious posts overboard and followed them to the places Thor supposedly chose for them. But the two prayers had something in common: the same sound ocean science underlay them both. ? - Herendil Enjoy a better web experience. Upgrade to the new Internet Explorer 8 optimised for Yahoo!7. Get it now. From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com Thu Mar 26 11:15:54 2009 From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:15:54 +1100 Subject: [TolHarndor] Fwd: Sauron's Ring and the Green LanternRingsofPower In-Reply-To: <259F8A8B963342E9BA6B38A9C672CFC0@Michael> References: <259F8A8B963342E9BA6B38A9C672CFC0@Michael> Message-ID: Dearv all........mainly Mihkail , Been studying the water in my tank for so long..........I near as fainted!!!!.at der sight of a near (only) 500 litres........now working on another idea.........a smaller drainoffish tank..........noticed that a spill (must) happen when the roof supplies more than 500? No argument? Well a near top Syphon to another........peutetre smaller tank....and pehaps a (portable) not potable! tank could cover both an overflow and a bottoming pour off......say a ten gallon bucketank...one I COULD carry! Too busy to have been involved speaking to Dr Wills (Sarah type) Will soon! Will ask her if catering.........academics are lot of tossers anyhow! love jeff..PSSSSSSS.....The earth has not moved for me lately..the epicentre (so I understand )was at Korrumburra.some 134.0000000006 KS from West Brunswick.....but I want badly enough to be moved.....so will keep on listening to my Jazz and Classic recordings.many on (wax) Note..soon to contact Dr Sarah...........DB says that I should do more than contact her.........but DB is a wanton liar.........and a jealous one at that! > > .. > > > > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at tolharndor.org > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > From mlk at activ8.net.au Thu Mar 26 16:05:36 2009 From: mlk at activ8.net.au (Michael Kennedy) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:05:36 +1100 Subject: [TolHarndor] Fwd: Sauron's Ring and the Green LanternRingsofPower In-Reply-To: References: <259F8A8B963342E9BA6B38A9C672CFC0@Michael> Message-ID: <20090326160536.0cmx6s5fs4kocc8w@webmail.activ8.net.au> Are you certain that all that siphoning and storage are not responsible for the earth moving down south? As soon as I heard the reports last week my first thoughts were all revolved around the Lynch. I contacted Sara last week and I eagerly await reply. Basically just looking to confirm that we have the hall, room, or booth for the duration of one day. Will let you know when I hear from her. DB? MK Quoting Jeff Lynch : > Dearv all........mainly Mihkail > , > Been studying the water in my tank for so long..........I near as > fainted!!!!.at der sight of a near (only) 500 litres........now working on > another idea.........a smaller drainoffish tank..........noticed that a > spill (must) happen when the roof supplies more than 500? > No argument? > Well a near top Syphon to another........peutetre smaller tank....and pehaps > a (portable) not potable! tank could cover both an overflow and a bottoming > pour off......say a ten gallon bucketank...one I COULD carry! > Too busy to have been involved speaking to Dr Wills (Sarah type) Will soon! > Will ask her if catering.........academics are lot of tossers anyhow! > > love jeff..PSSSSSSS.....The earth has not moved for me lately..the epicentre > (so I understand )was at Korrumburra.some 134.0000000006 KS from West > Brunswick.....but I want badly enough to be moved.....so will keep on > listening to my Jazz and Classic recordings.many on (wax) > Note..soon to contact Dr Sarah...........DB says that I should do more than > contact her.........but DB is a wanton liar.........and a jealous one at > that! > >> >> .. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> List mailing list >> List at tolharndor.org >> http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org >> > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at tolharndor.org > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com Sat Mar 28 09:25:31 2009 From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 09:25:31 +1100 Subject: [TolHarndor] Fwd: Sauron's Ring and the Green LanternRingsofPower In-Reply-To: <20090326160536.0cmx6s5fs4kocc8w@webmail.activ8.net.au> References: <259F8A8B963342E9BA6B38A9C672CFC0@Michael> <20090326160536.0cmx6s5fs4kocc8w@webmail.activ8.net.au> Message-ID: Dear (mainly) Mikhail, Well it's true that my actions re the sloppily placed water direction.........tho'' this might have been due to the rotation of the earth it was only my rotten design..........the plasctic stanchion.much ribbed but still too weak started to buckle and thus near causing the tank.half filled to topple..I just managed to rescue it...now I am about to buy a second tank....same size at 500 litres..(Wa's that!).........any how I am about to bore into the near top of the first tank.with a Hole driller..andplace a plastic pipe length into it and take it down.in a slope (nat!) to the second!!!!!! Ovewrflow captured.....'lest he could nee'r recapture that first fine careless rapture'......prize fot first (ungoogled) Answer to the POET.....evenmore if The Poem is named. DB is for DIZZY BLONDE! She is Gwynneth.....ie .......Gwen..ie ...Gwen Haines....... my lady when she is being one. Good will await on Sarah's Say love jeff On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Michael Kennedy wrote: > Are you certain that all that siphoning and storage are not > responsible for the earth moving down south? As soon as I heard the > reports last week my first thoughts were all revolved around the Lynch. > > I contacted Sara last week and I eagerly await reply. Basically just > looking to confirm that we have the hall, room, or booth for the > duration of one day. Will let you know when I hear from her. > > DB? > > MK > > > Quoting Jeff Lynch : > > > Dearv all........mainly Mihkail > > , > > Been studying the water in my tank for so long..........I near as > > fainted!!!!.at der sight of a near (only) 500 litres........now working > on > > another idea.........a smaller drainoffish tank..........noticed that a > > spill (must) happen when the roof supplies more than 500? > > No argument? > > Well a near top Syphon to another........peutetre smaller tank....and > pehaps > > a (portable) not potable! tank could cover both an overflow and a > bottoming > > pour off......say a ten gallon bucketank...one I COULD carry! > > Too busy to have been involved speaking to Dr Wills (Sarah type) Will > soon! > > Will ask her if catering.........academics are lot of tossers anyhow! > > > > love jeff..PSSSSSSS.....The earth has not moved for me lately..the > epicentre > > (so I understand )was at Korrumburra.some 134.0000000006 KS from West > > Brunswick.....but I want badly enough to be moved.....so will keep on > > listening to my Jazz and Classic recordings.many on (wax) > > Note..soon to contact Dr Sarah...........DB says that I should do more > than > > contact her.........but DB is a wanton liar.........and a jealous one at > > that! > > > >> > >> .. > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> List mailing list > >> List at tolharndor.org > >> http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > List mailing list > > List at tolharndor.org > > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at tolharndor.org > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > From mlk at activ8.net.au Sat Mar 28 10:34:54 2009 From: mlk at activ8.net.au (Michael Kennedy) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:34:54 +1100 Subject: [TolHarndor] "Sagas reveal Vikings were 'first oceanographers' " In-Reply-To: <967559.35439.qm@web110207.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1A9510529E9342C4B610BB07227E8395@Michael> Well I will never underestimate the importance of flotsam ever again! Great article - thanks for the link Ted. > -----Original Message----- > From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list- > bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Edwin Scribner > Sent: Thursday, 26 March 2009 8:53 AM > To: list at tolharndor.org > Subject: [TolHarndor] "Sagas reveal Vikings were 'first > oceanographers' " > > http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20127001.500-sagas- > reveal-vikings-were-first-oceanographers.html?DCMP=NLC- > nletter&nsref=mg20127001.500 > > or > > http://tinyurl.com/c7hb7x > > When Hallstein son of Thorolf Mostbeard found a suitable > homestead on Iceland, he sacrificed to Thor, imploring the god > to provide the ceremonial high seat posts he needed to complete > his great hall. Evidently Thor heard: a mighty log washed > ashore, big enough to supply seat posts for all the settlers > round about. Years earlier, when Hallstein's father and other > Norse pioneers sailed for Iceland, they had found themselves in > the opposite fix. They had brought seat posts from home but > needed a good place to settle. As they approached Iceland, they > tossed their precious posts overboard and followed them to the > places Thor supposedly chose for them. But the two prayers had > something in common: the same sound ocean science underlay them > both. > > - Herendil > > > Enjoy a better web experience. Upgrade to the new > Internet Explorer 8 optimised for Yahoo!7. Get it now. > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at tolharndor.org > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org From krenon at y7mail.com Sat Mar 28 12:17:05 2009 From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:17:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [TolHarndor] Fwd: Sauron's Ring and the Green LanternRingsofPower Message-ID: <789315.68139.qm@web110211.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hi Michael, ? Are you still planning to hold this on the weekend of Aussiecon 4? Or did I get it wrong (I hope)? --- On Thu, 26/3/09, Michael Kennedy wrote: Are you certain that all that siphoning and storage are not? responsible for the earth moving down south? As soon as I heard the? reports last week my first thoughts were all revolved around the Lynch. I contacted Sara last week and I eagerly await reply. Basically just? looking to confirm that we have the hall, room, or booth for the? duration of one day. Will let you know when I hear from her. DB? MK Enjoy a better web experience. Upgrade to the new Internet Explorer 8 optimised for Yahoo!7. Get it now. From mlk at activ8.net.au Sat Mar 28 17:22:43 2009 From: mlk at activ8.net.au (Michael Kennedy) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:22:43 +1100 Subject: [TolHarndor] Fwd: Sauron's Ring and the GreenLanternRingsofPower In-Reply-To: <789315.68139.qm@web110211.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <71F1C6A128ED4B079D6E300ACA5A6E4B@Michael> Yes. It's not on the same w/e as Aussiecon. The plan is for the 28th August, 2010 - a week before. Hopefully that will fit in well with anyone that wants to attend both. Just waiting to hear confirmation about the venue. > -----Original Message----- > From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list- > bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Edwin Scribner > Sent: Saturday, 28 March 2009 12:17 PM > To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society > Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Fwd: Sauron's Ring and the > GreenLanternRingsofPower > > Hi Michael, > > Are you still planning to hold this on the weekend of Aussiecon > 4? Or did I get it wrong (I hope)? > > --- On Thu, 26/3/09, Michael Kennedy wrote: > > > Are you certain that all that siphoning and storage are not > responsible for the earth moving down south? As soon as I heard > the > reports last week my first thoughts were all revolved around > the Lynch. > > I contacted Sara last week and I eagerly await reply. Basically > just > looking to confirm that we have the hall, room, or booth for > the > duration of one day. Will let you know when I hear from her. > > DB? > > MK > > > Enjoy a better web experience. Upgrade to the new > Internet Explorer 8 optimised for Yahoo!7. Get it now. > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at tolharndor.org > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org From krenon at y7mail.com Sat Mar 28 17:49:59 2009 From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 23:49:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [TolHarndor] Fwd: Sauron's Ring and the GreenLanternRingsofPower Message-ID: <985764.26013.qm@web110215.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Whew! and thanks. ? Herendil (who will become Ted or Krenon the following weekend :) --- On Sat, 28/3/09, Michael Kennedy wrote: Yes.? It's not on the same w/e as Aussiecon. The plan is for the 28th August, 2010 - a week before. Hopefully that will fit in well with anyone that wants to attend both. Just waiting to hear confirmation about the venue.? Yahoo!7 recommends that you update your browser to the new Internet Explorer 8.Get it now. From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com Mon Mar 30 08:40:12 2009 From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 09:40:12 +1100 Subject: [TolHarndor] "Sagas reveal Vikings were 'first oceanographers' " In-Reply-To: <967559.35439.qm@web110207.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <967559.35439.qm@web110207.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: DEar Td, I too am impressed with the New .......it is a stunner....ya might say do not 'follow the shoe' any more...simply 'follow the coffin'...or of course the logs too! A good story.........and still room left for fine saga porkies too.........Hmmm U boats and all in the action love jeff On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Edwin Scribner wrote: > > http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20127001.500-sagas-reveal-vikings-were-first-oceanographers.html?DCMP=NLC-nletter&nsref=mg20127001.500 > > or > > http://tinyurl.com/c7hb7x > > When Hallstein son of Thorolf Mostbeard found a suitable homestead on > Iceland, he sacrificed to Thor, imploring the god to provide the ceremonial > high seat posts he needed to complete his great hall. Evidently Thor heard: > a mighty log washed ashore, big enough to supply seat posts for all the > settlers round about. Years earlier, when Hallstein's father and other Norse > pioneers sailed for Iceland, they had found themselves in the opposite fix. > They had brought seat posts from home but needed a good place to settle. As > they approached Iceland, they tossed their precious posts overboard and > followed them to the places Thor supposedly chose for them. But the two > prayers had something in common: the same sound ocean science underlay them > both. > > - Herendil > > > Enjoy a better web experience. Upgrade to the new Internet Explorer 8 > optimised for Yahoo!7. Get it now. > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at tolharndor.org > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com Mon Mar 30 08:41:33 2009 From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 09:41:33 +1100 Subject: [TolHarndor] "Sagas reveal Vikings were 'first oceanographers' " In-Reply-To: <967559.35439.qm@web110207.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <967559.35439.qm@web110207.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hey David.....ARE YOU ALIVE? Jeff From dragon at roots-boots.net Mon Mar 30 11:34:10 2009 From: dragon at roots-boots.net (David Powell) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:34:10 +1000 Subject: [TolHarndor] "Sagas reveal Vikings were 'first oceanographers' " In-Reply-To: References: <967559.35439.qm@web110207.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090330113410.1xxsovumi8s088sc@roots-boots.net> Quoting Jeff Lynch : > Hey David.....ARE YOU ALIVE? Yes .. just practising being a hermit. :) cheers, David -- Australian Linedance website of the year: Tamworth 2005,2007 http://roots-boots.net mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for it to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies From dragon at roots-boots.net Tue Mar 31 16:17:10 2009 From: dragon at roots-boots.net (Marayong) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:17:10 +1100 Subject: [TolHarndor] "Sagas reveal Vikings were 'first oceanographers' " In-Reply-To: References: <967559.35439.qm@web110207.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20090330111608.g4zy8fr4m8g0wcs8@roots-boots.net> Message-ID: <49D1B566.1090608@roots-boots.net> Jeff Lynch wrote: > MMm......(a Christian Hermit?) > or a Wiking one? Yo, ho, ho and a bottle of rum! Oh wait, that's a pirate. Here we go .. "I see a dark sail on the horizon set under a black cloud that hides the sun. Bring me my broadsword and clear understanding. Bring me my cross of gold as a talisman. Get up to the roundhouse on the cliff-top standing. Take women and children and bed them down. Bring me my broadsword and clear understanding. Bring me my cross of gold as a talisman. Bless with a hard heart those who surround me. Bless the women and children who firm our hands. Put our backs to the north wind. Hold fast by the river. Sweet memories to drive us on for the motherland." That's the lyrics to Broadsword, a very Vikingish (or at least Anglosaxonish) song by Jethro Tull. BTW, re the original post on this theme ... there were plenty of other races that were proficient oceanographers LONG before the Vikings even existed as a race, let along went a-viking. The resisends of Easter Island deserve a special mention .. having arrived there from Taiwan, via Polynesia. A more impressive feat than reaching Greenland. cheers, David > love jeff > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 12:16 PM, David Powell > wrote: > > Quoting Jeff Lynch >: > > Hey David.....ARE YOU ALIVE? > > > Yes .. just practising being a hermit. :) > > cheers, > David > -- > Australian Linedance website of the year: Tamworth 2005,2007 > http://roots-boots.net > mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net > The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for it > to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its > own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies > > > -- Line dancing, Genealogy, Travel, Photography, Local history & more! http://roots-boots.net mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for it to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies