From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Fri Oct  2 09:10:24 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:10:24 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Weather
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No Ted I've not read Worldshaker.? Vas ist das?
Yep MA was the (at least near CREATOR) of Rugby......at Rugby and it might
have followed some types of known wall or wide town games where whole
villages of men in ther foolish bliss chased a ball or something like a ball
over hills and dales o'er commons and fields for the sport.....Now it was
made more compact and RULESS were made for boys.nice boys too....see
Flashman!!!!
jeff

On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:

> Matthew Arnold - see the Wikipedia and you'll see the football connection
> (I didn't know that until I looked it up).
>
> Have you read Richard Harland's "Worldshaker"? I mean to read it when I can
> get around to laying my hands on a copy.
>
> --- On Wed, 30/9/09, Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au> wrote:
>
> Jeff - since when did you have care for the rules and who is Mathew Arnold?
>
> Your Vienna trip is starting to take shape. What's the green wine? I'm not
> going anywhere as exotic but again I head off to Auckland today, returning
> on Friday. Apparently it is raining there today.
>
> Just about finished the Woman in White by Wilkie Collins. Highly
> recommended
> if you are into 'Sensation' novels. I'm on the lookout for more of his
> works.
>
>
>
>
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From krenon at y7mail.com  Fri Oct  2 10:16:53 2009
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:16:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Weather
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Hi Jeff

"Worldshaker" is a book by Richard Harland. Michael went to the launch of it in Wollongong (I presume he went - he said he was going and I haven't heard that he didn't go). Richard had it sold to a publisher in the USA before it appeared here (and he is highly chuffed about same). It's a steampunk novel, based on the concept that Napoleon had a tunnel dug under the English Channel so he could invade Britain. I mean to read it myself but haven't got a copy as yet.

The Wikipedia says that the famous headmaster of Rugby School was the poet's father (same name). As I'd heard it, Rugby football was created when a certain schoolboy was playing "football" (presumably similar to modern soccer) and he "picked up the ball and ran with it".? I suppose the headmaster was on the schoolboy's side, or else the boy would have been tarred and feathered.

What interests me rather more is the history behind Dally Messenger and the genesis of Rugby League in Australia.

--- On Fri, 2/10/09, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:

No Ted I've not read Worldshaker.? Vas ist das?
Yep MA was the (at least near CREATOR) of Rugby......at Rugby and it might
have followed some types of known wall or wide town games where whole
villages of men in ther foolish bliss chased a ball or something like a ball
over hills and dales o'er commons and fields for the sport.....Now it was
made more compact and RULESS were made for boys.nice boys too....see
Flashman!!!!
jeff





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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Sat Oct  3 09:39:49 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 09:39:49 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Weather
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Very interesting Ted.......always trought that Mathew was THE master........
MMMm.....well perhaps Napoleon asked Mr Bruel to do it..he started it
....even had a big Underwater party for the shareholders....the scheme
collapsed (not the tunnel) for lack of cash.mmmm
Humboldt also worked with Isombard Kingdom.on diving bells in the Thames
River!
jeff

On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:

> Hi Jeff
>
> "Worldshaker" is a book by Richard Harland. Michael went to the launch of
> it in Wollongong (I presume he went - he said he was going and I haven't
> heard that he didn't go). Richard had it sold to a publisher in the USA
> before it appeared here (and he is highly chuffed about same). It's a
> steampunk novel, based on the concept that Napoleon had a tunnel dug under
> the English Channel so he could invade Britain. I mean to read it myself but
> haven't got a copy as yet.
>
> The Wikipedia says that the famous headmaster of Rugby School was the
> poet's father (same name). As I'd heard it, Rugby football was created when
> a certain schoolboy was playing "football" (presumably similar to modern
> soccer) and he "picked up the ball and ran with it".  I suppose the
> headmaster was on the schoolboy's side, or else the boy would have been
> tarred and feathered.
>
> What interests me rather more is the history behind Dally Messenger and the
> genesis of Rugby League in Australia.
>
> --- On Fri, 2/10/09, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> No Ted I've not read Worldshaker.? Vas ist das?
> Yep MA was the (at least near CREATOR) of Rugby......at Rugby and it might
> have followed some types of known wall or wide town games where whole
> villages of men in ther foolish bliss chased a ball or something like a
> ball
> over hills and dales o'er commons and fields for the sport.....Now it was
> made more compact and RULESS were made for boys.nice boys too....see
> Flashman!!!!
> jeff
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From mlk at activ8.net.au  Sat Oct  3 10:24:46 2009
From: mlk at activ8.net.au (Michael Kennedy)
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 10:24:46 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Weather
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   Hi All,

   I did attend the launch of Worldshaker and left with a personally  
signed copy of his book. It's a great read - original, vibrant and  
action-packed. It could easily be interpreted for the big screen, and  
the talk is that this may very well happen.

   I'm still having difficulties with e-mails at home, and I can now  
only access them remotely via the internet. I've just about given up  
on my current service provider, and now that we finally have access to  
ADSL broadband I'm considering the switch.

   The rain was music to my ears last night. Not only did it quench  
the thirst of our neglected flora, but it washed away the red dust on  
every outdoor surface.

   Michael

   Quoting Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com>:

> Very interesting Ted.......always trought that Mathew was THE master........
> MMMm.....well perhaps Napoleon asked Mr Bruel to do it..he started it
> ....even had a big Underwater party for the shareholders....the scheme
> collapsed (not the tunnel) for lack of cash.mmmm
> Humboldt also worked with Isombard Kingdom.on diving bells in the Thames
> River!
> jeff
>
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jeff
>>
>> "Worldshaker" is a book by Richard Harland. Michael went to the launch of
>> it in Wollongong (I presume he went - he said he was going and I haven't
>> heard that he didn't go). Richard had it sold to a publisher in the USA
>> before it appeared here (and he is highly chuffed about same). It's a
>> steampunk novel, based on the concept that Napoleon had a tunnel dug under
>> the English Channel so he could invade Britain. I mean to read it myself but
>> haven't got a copy as yet.
>>
>> The Wikipedia says that the famous headmaster of Rugby School was the
>> poet's father (same name). As I'd heard it, Rugby football was created when
>> a certain schoolboy was playing "football" (presumably similar to modern
>> soccer) and he "picked up the ball and ran with it".? I suppose the
>> headmaster was on the schoolboy's side, or else the boy would have been
>> tarred and feathered.
>>
>> What interests me rather more is the history behind Dally Messenger and the
>> genesis of Rugby League in Australia.
>>
>> --- On Fri, 2/10/09, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> No Ted I've not read Worldshaker.? Vas ist das?
>> Yep MA was the (at least near CREATOR) of Rugby......at Rugby and it might
>> have followed some types of known wall or wide town games where whole
>> villages of men in ther foolish bliss chased a ball or something like a
>> ball
>> over hills and dales o'er commons and fields for the sport.....Now it was
>> made more compact and RULESS were made for boys.nice boys too....see
>> Flashman!!!!
>> jeff
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ? ?
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From krenon at y7mail.com  Sat Oct  3 10:57:28 2009
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:57:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Weather
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I must get myself a copy (of Worldshaker). As for a movie - I imagine that Richard would be over the moon! As some of you may know, he left his job at Wollongong Uni in about 1999 to concentrate on writing full time. It was a bold decision and it now looks as if it's paying off better than ever.

I've been quite satisfied with ADSL since we moved to Blackheath (where there is of course no cable). I'm also quite satisfied with Westnet which continues to win awards for best isp in Australia.

It's raining here too and, as you say, washing away the red dust, which admittedly was apparently not as bad as in Sydney (for red dust pix from here see http://www.bullsheet.sf.org.au/bullsheet_91.html )

--- On Sat, 3/10/09, Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au> wrote:

? Hi All,

? I did attend the launch of Worldshaker and left with a personally signed copy of his book. It's a great read - original, vibrant and action-packed. It could easily be interpreted for the big screen, and the talk is that this may very well happen.

? I'm still having difficulties with e-mails at home, and I can now only access them remotely via the internet. I've just about given up on my current service provider, and now that we finally have access to ADSL broadband I'm considering the switch.

? The rain was music to my ears last night. Not only did it quench the thirst of our neglected flora, but it washed away the red dust on every outdoor surface.

? Michael

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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Sun Oct  4 09:49:58 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 09:49:58 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Weather
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	<ecc18000910021639w31154ed7kea88e043770b46e2@mail.gmail.com>
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ohhhh....another book to read...so many books ...so little time
Clocks move more than we do this morn..Ho ........move on one hour.
Dull start to our spring day.but I have hopes of taking DB (out) some
where...pehaps La Mer.................THe water, the water.

To Ye ED!
I am considering editing 'Humboldt' once more lightly........can you handle
putting the whole 115,000 words of it online Davy Crockett?
I  would send it......to you.....(snail) on a disc.??????????
Yeah or nay lad?
jeff
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au> wrote:

>
>
>  Hi All,
>
>  I did attend the launch of Worldshaker and left with a personally signed
> copy of his book. It's a great read - original, vibrant and action-packed.
> It could easily be interpreted for the big screen, and the talk is that this
> may very well happen.
>
>  I'm still having difficulties with e-mails at home, and I can now only
> access them remotely via the internet. I've just about given up on my
> current service provider, and now that we finally have access to ADSL
> broadband I'm considering the switch.
>
>  The rain was music to my ears last night. Not only did it quench the
> thirst of our neglected flora, but it washed away the red dust on every
> outdoor surface.
>
>  Michael
>
>
>  Quoting Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com>:
>
> Very interesting Ted.......always trought that Mathew was THE
>> master........
>> MMMm.....well perhaps Napoleon asked Mr Bruel to do it..he started it
>> ....even had a big Underwater party for the shareholders....the scheme
>> collapsed (not the tunnel) for lack of cash.mmmm
>> Humboldt also worked with Isombard Kingdom.on diving bells in the Thames
>> River!
>> jeff
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jeff
>>>
>>> "Worldshaker" is a book by Richard Harland. Michael went to the launch of
>>> it in Wollongong (I presume he went - he said he was going and I haven't
>>> heard that he didn't go). Richard had it sold to a publisher in the USA
>>> before it appeared here (and he is highly chuffed about same). It's a
>>> steampunk novel, based on the concept that Napoleon had a tunnel dug
>>> under
>>> the English Channel so he could invade Britain. I mean to read it myself
>>> but
>>> haven't got a copy as yet.
>>>
>>> The Wikipedia says that the famous headmaster of Rugby School was the
>>> poet's father (same name). As I'd heard it, Rugby football was created
>>> when
>>> a certain schoolboy was playing "football" (presumably similar to modern
>>> soccer) and he "picked up the ball and ran with it".  I suppose the
>>> headmaster was on the schoolboy's side, or else the boy would have been
>>> tarred and feathered.
>>>
>>> What interests me rather more is the history behind Dally Messenger and
>>> the
>>> genesis of Rugby League in Australia.
>>>
>>> --- On Fri, 2/10/09, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> No Ted I've not read Worldshaker.? Vas ist das?
>>> Yep MA was the (at least near CREATOR) of Rugby......at Rugby and it
>>> might
>>> have followed some types of known wall or wide town games where whole
>>> villages of men in ther foolish bliss chased a ball or something like a
>>> ball
>>> over hills and dales o'er commons and fields for the sport.....Now it was
>>> made more compact and RULESS were made for boys.nice boys too....see
>>> Flashman!!!!
>>> jeff
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From dragon at roots-boots.net  Sun Oct  4 11:17:50 2009
From: dragon at roots-boots.net (Marayong)
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 11:17:50 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Weather
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Out for the count at the moment with iritis .. which is a rather nasty 
condition of the eye which feels like hot pokers being stuck into the 
eyeball. Responding well to medication, but a long way to go.

Jeff Lynch wrote:
> I am considering editing 'Humboldt' once more lightly........can you handle
> putting the whole 115,000 words of it online Davy Crockett?
> I  would send it......to you.....(snail) on a disc.??????????
> Yeah or nay lad?

Shouldn't be a problem ... would this be for the next edition of Tilkal? 
When it's finished, let me know the file size and I'll tell you where to 
send it .. politely, of course. :)

cheers,
Ye of the one functioning eyeball
-- 
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  to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its
           own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies


From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Mon Oct  5 08:59:17 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:59:17 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Weather
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Ok Ye Ed,
I would not require you to any great functional editing Dave....let it stand
as it is...
Ta Jeff
Get better.....that way you might just be good.
On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Marayong <dragon at roots-boots.net> wrote:

> Out for the count at the moment with iritis .. which is a rather nasty
> condition of the eye which feels like hot pokers being stuck into the
> eyeball. Responding well to medication, but a long way to go.
>
> Jeff Lynch wrote:
>
>> I am considering editing 'Humboldt' once more lightly........can you
>> handle
>> putting the whole 115,000 words of it online Davy Crockett?
>> I  would send it......to you.....(snail) on a disc.??????????
>> Yeah or nay lad?
>>
>
> Shouldn't be a problem ... would this be for the next edition of Tilkal?
> When it's finished, let me know the file size and I'll tell you where to
> send it .. politely, of course. :)
>
> cheers,
> Ye of the one functioning eyeball
> --
> Line dancing, Genealogy, Travel, Photography, Local history & more!
>     http://roots-boots.net     mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net
> The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for it
>  to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its
>          own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies
>
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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Tue Oct  6 08:54:03 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 08:54:03 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Weather
In-Reply-To: <4AC7E9AE.5040702@roots-boots.net>
References: <ecc18000910011610y4fdea7b1rf06584ed6bc3de6b@mail.gmail.com>
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	<ecc18000910021639w31154ed7kea88e043770b46e2@mail.gmail.com>
	<20091003102446.f27gkuj7s4s0g8ss@webmail.activ8.net.au>
	<ecc18000910031549w59775629ye4370d44e1002170@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AC7E9AE.5040702@roots-boots.net>
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Humboldt.....coming to yoy by snail...(a disc)
jeff

On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Marayong <dragon at roots-boots.net> wrote:

> Out for the count at the moment with iritis .. which is a rather nasty
> condition of the eye which feels like hot pokers being stuck into the
> eyeball. Responding well to medication, but a long way to go.
>
> Jeff Lynch wrote:
>
>> I am considering editing 'Humboldt' once more lightly........can you
>> handle
>> putting the whole 115,000 words of it online Davy Crockett?
>> I  would send it......to you.....(snail) on a disc.??????????
>> Yeah or nay lad?
>>
>
> Shouldn't be a problem ... would this be for the next edition of Tilkal?
> When it's finished, let me know the file size and I'll tell you where to
> send it .. politely, of course. :)
>
> cheers,
> Ye of the one functioning eyeball
> --
> Line dancing, Genealogy, Travel, Photography, Local history & more!
>     http://roots-boots.net     mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net
> The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for it
>  to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its
>          own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies
>
> _______________________________________________
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From dragon at roots-boots.net  Tue Oct  6 09:58:51 2009
From: dragon at roots-boots.net (Marayong)
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 09:58:51 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Weather
In-Reply-To: <ecc18000910051454p6ce05bc3ic479b8cd435714e0@mail.gmail.com>
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	<ecc18000910051454p6ce05bc3ic479b8cd435714e0@mail.gmail.com>
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Ta!

cheers,
Ye One Eyed Editor
(as long as I have to keep using these eye drops)

Jeff Lynch wrote:
> Humboldt.....coming to yoy by snail...(a disc)
> jeff
> 
> On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Marayong <dragon at roots-boots.net> wrote:
> 
>> Out for the count at the moment with iritis .. which is a rather nasty
>> condition of the eye which feels like hot pokers being stuck into the
>> eyeball. Responding well to medication, but a long way to go.
>>
>> Jeff Lynch wrote:
>>
>>> I am considering editing 'Humboldt' once more lightly........can you
>>> handle
>>> putting the whole 115,000 words of it online Davy Crockett?
>>> I  would send it......to you.....(snail) on a disc.??????????
>>> Yeah or nay lad?
>>>
>> Shouldn't be a problem ... would this be for the next edition of Tilkal?
>> When it's finished, let me know the file size and I'll tell you where to
>> send it .. politely, of course. :)
>>
>> cheers,
>> Ye of the one functioning eyeball
>> --
>> Line dancing, Genealogy, Travel, Photography, Local history & more!
>>     http://roots-boots.net     mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net
>> The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for it
>>  to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its
>>          own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies
>>
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From mlk at activ8.net.au  Tue Oct  6 10:56:28 2009
From: mlk at activ8.net.au (Michael Kennedy)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 10:56:28 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Weather
In-Reply-To: <4AC7E9AE.5040702@roots-boots.net>
Message-ID: <0A3C237DA7B940CD80CB22C7AA85576B@Michael>

No good David. There're several witty lines about being 'one-eyed' etc., but
you won't catch me using them.

Apparently, pomegranate juice can also help. God only knows where you would
find some.

Michael

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
> bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Marayong
> Sent: Sunday, 4 October 2009 11:18 AM
> To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Weather
> 
> Out for the count at the moment with iritis .. which is a
> rather nasty
> condition of the eye which feels like hot pokers being stuck
> into the
> eyeball. Responding well to medication, but a long way to go.
> 
> Jeff Lynch wrote:
> > I am considering editing 'Humboldt' once more
> lightly........can you handle
> > putting the whole 115,000 words of it online Davy Crockett?
> > I  would send it......to you.....(snail) on a disc.??????????
> > Yeah or nay lad?
> 
> Shouldn't be a problem ... would this be for the next edition
> of Tilkal?
> When it's finished, let me know the file size and I'll tell you
> where to
> send it .. politely, of course. :)
> 
> cheers,
> Ye of the one functioning eyeball
> --
> Line dancing, Genealogy, Travel, Photography, Local history &
> more!
>       http://roots-boots.net     mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net
> The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for
> it
>   to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose
> its
>            own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies
> 
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From dragon at roots-boots.net  Tue Oct  6 11:16:55 2009
From: dragon at roots-boots.net (Marayong)
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 11:16:55 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Weather
In-Reply-To: <0A3C237DA7B940CD80CB22C7AA85576B@Michael>
References: <0A3C237DA7B940CD80CB22C7AA85576B@Michael>
Message-ID: <4ACA8C77.6000507@roots-boots.net>

Michael Kennedy wrote:
> No good David. There're several witty lines about being 'one-eyed' etc., but
> you won't catch me using them.

Thanks! :)

> Apparently, pomegranate juice can also help. God only knows where you would
> find some.

Applied orally or optically?

The medication does work .. it's only been a couple of days and the pain 
has gone, the inflammation has reduced a lot .. the main trouble now is 
the side effects of the medications ... the main one being my pupil is 
fully dilated .. so bright lights are a tad unpleasant and I can't 
change the focus of my right eye. Apart from the obvious inflammation, 
the main symptom of iritis is that the pupil essentially goes into 
epileptic fits, which causes pressure spikes in the eye and lots of 
pain. Untreated it can end in blindness.

Seeing my GP on friday to get a blood test to see if it's a one-off 
infection or due to a faulty gene. Since I already have symptoms of that 
gene, it's likely that ... early onset arthritis.

cheers,
David

> 
> Michael
> 
>  
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
>> bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Marayong
>> Sent: Sunday, 4 October 2009 11:18 AM
>> To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
>> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Weather
>>
>> Out for the count at the moment with iritis .. which is a
>> rather nasty
>> condition of the eye which feels like hot pokers being stuck
>> into the
>> eyeball. Responding well to medication, but a long way to go.
>>
>> Jeff Lynch wrote:
>>> I am considering editing 'Humboldt' once more
>> lightly........can you handle
>>> putting the whole 115,000 words of it online Davy Crockett?
>>> I  would send it......to you.....(snail) on a disc.??????????
>>> Yeah or nay lad?
>> Shouldn't be a problem ... would this be for the next edition
>> of Tilkal?
>> When it's finished, let me know the file size and I'll tell you
>> where to
>> send it .. politely, of course. :)
>>
>> cheers,
>> Ye of the one functioning eyeball
>> --
>> Line dancing, Genealogy, Travel, Photography, Local history &
>> more!
>>       http://roots-boots.net     mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net
>> The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for
>> it
>>   to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose
>> its
>>            own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> List mailing list
>> List at tolharndor.org
>> http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> 

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The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for it
  to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its
           own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies


From mlk at activ8.net.au  Wed Oct  7 09:15:50 2009
From: mlk at activ8.net.au (Michael Kennedy)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:15:50 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Weather
In-Reply-To: <4ACA8C77.6000507@roots-boots.net>
Message-ID: <D15DC7F189D744B3A314463EF9B57F97@Michael>

Orally, although who knows - maybe topical application would be best. 

I'm nursing my own injury. I have a fractured left rib as a result of a
soccer collision last week. As long as I don't sneeze it's not too bad.

The Call for Papers for Melbourne's Seminar next year has now been published
in the latest version of Amon Hen with a full page spread. It was from this
point last time that interest from prospective presenters picked up.
Hopefully it will be much the same this time.

Michael

> -----Original Message-----
> From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
> bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Marayong
> Sent: Tuesday, 6 October 2009 11:17 AM
> To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society; me2
> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Weather
> 
> Michael Kennedy wrote:
> > No good David. There're several witty lines about being 'one-
> eyed' etc., but
> > you won't catch me using them.
> 
> Thanks! :)
> 
> > Apparently, pomegranate juice can also help. God only knows
> where you would
> > find some.
> 
> Applied orally or optically?
> 
> The medication does work .. it's only been a couple of days and
> the pain
> has gone, the inflammation has reduced a lot .. the main
> trouble now is
> the side effects of the medications ... the main one being my
> pupil is
> fully dilated .. so bright lights are a tad unpleasant and I
> can't
> change the focus of my right eye. Apart from the obvious
> inflammation,
> the main symptom of iritis is that the pupil essentially goes
> into
> epileptic fits, which causes pressure spikes in the eye and
> lots of
> pain. Untreated it can end in blindness.
> 
> Seeing my GP on friday to get a blood test to see if it's a
> one-off
> infection or due to a faulty gene. Since I already have
> symptoms of that
> gene, it's likely that ... early onset arthritis.
> 
> cheers,
> David
> 
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
> >> bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Marayong
> >> Sent: Sunday, 4 October 2009 11:18 AM
> >> To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
> >> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Weather
> >>
> >> Out for the count at the moment with iritis .. which is a
> >> rather nasty
> >> condition of the eye which feels like hot pokers being stuck
> >> into the
> >> eyeball. Responding well to medication, but a long way to go.
> >>
> >> Jeff Lynch wrote:
> >>> I am considering editing 'Humboldt' once more
> >> lightly........can you handle
> >>> putting the whole 115,000 words of it online Davy Crockett?
> >>> I  would send it......to you.....(snail) on a
> disc.??????????
> >>> Yeah or nay lad?
> >> Shouldn't be a problem ... would this be for the next
> edition
> >> of Tilkal?
> >> When it's finished, let me know the file size and I'll tell
> you
> >> where to
> >> send it .. politely, of course. :)
> >>
> >> cheers,
> >> Ye of the one functioning eyeball
> >> --
> >> Line dancing, Genealogy, Travel, Photography, Local history
> &
> >> more!
> >>       http://roots-boots.net     mailto:dragon at roots-
> boots.net
> >> The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be
> for
> >> it
> >>   to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to
> lose
> >> its
> >>            own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> List mailing list
> >> List at tolharndor.org
> >> http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > List mailing list
> > List at tolharndor.org
> > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org
> >
> 
> --
> Line dancing, Genealogy, Travel, Photography, Local history &
> more!
>       http://roots-boots.net     mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net
> The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for
> it
>   to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose
> its
>            own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies
> 
> _______________________________________________
> List mailing list
> List at tolharndor.org
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From krenon at y7mail.com  Wed Oct  7 09:49:52 2009
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 15:49:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Weather
In-Reply-To: <D15DC7F189D744B3A314463EF9B57F97@Michael>
Message-ID: <271602.71011.qm@web110209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I'd better get my abstract in then. Are you still open to 1 hour papers (40m talk 20m questions)? My proposed paper might be either half or one hour. It's potentially a wide scope but that could be narrowed if necessary.

Yeah, soccer is less of a contact sport than either Rugby League or Aussie Rules, but it's certainly not no-contact. How fractured is fractured? Really broken? That sounds rather bad. I hope you recover soon.

Cheers

Herendil

--- On Wed, 7/10/09, Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au> wrote:

Orally, although who knows - maybe topical application would be best. 

I'm nursing my own injury. I have a fractured left rib as a result of a
soccer collision last week. As long as I don't sneeze it's not too bad.

The Call for Papers for Melbourne's Seminar next year has now been published
in the latest version of Amon Hen with a full page spread. It was from this
point last time that interest from prospective presenters picked up.
Hopefully it will be much the same this time.

Michael





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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Wed Oct  7 09:57:52 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:57:52 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Weather
In-Reply-To: <4ACA7A2B.2060705@roots-boots.net>
References: <ecc18000910011610y4fdea7b1rf06584ed6bc3de6b@mail.gmail.com>
	<256475.74494.qm@web110211.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<ecc18000910021639w31154ed7kea88e043770b46e2@mail.gmail.com>
	<20091003102446.f27gkuj7s4s0g8ss@webmail.activ8.net.au>
	<ecc18000910031549w59775629ye4370d44e1002170@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AC7E9AE.5040702@roots-boots.net>
	<ecc18000910051454p6ce05bc3ic479b8cd435714e0@mail.gmail.com>
	<4ACA7A2B.2060705@roots-boots.net>
Message-ID: <ecc18000910061557t1bc3e52doc77e9c4b56f0861b@mail.gmail.com>

One eyed monster........A veritable Cyclops...from THE odyssey.....how
appropriate Dear ED!
jeff

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Marayong <dragon at roots-boots.net> wrote:

> Ta!
>
> cheers,
> Ye One Eyed Editor
> (as long as I have to keep using these eye drops)
>
>
> Jeff Lynch wrote:
>
>> Humboldt.....coming to yoy by snail...(a disc)
>> jeff
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Marayong <dragon at roots-boots.net> wrote:
>>
>> Out for the count at the moment with iritis .. which is a rather nasty
>>> condition of the eye which feels like hot pokers being stuck into the
>>> eyeball. Responding well to medication, but a long way to go.
>>>
>>> Jeff Lynch wrote:
>>>
>>> I am considering editing 'Humboldt' once more lightly........can you
>>>> handle
>>>> putting the whole 115,000 words of it online Davy Crockett?
>>>> I  would send it......to you.....(snail) on a disc.??????????
>>>> Yeah or nay lad?
>>>>
>>>> Shouldn't be a problem ... would this be for the next edition of Tilkal?
>>> When it's finished, let me know the file size and I'll tell you where to
>>> send it .. politely, of course. :)
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> Ye of the one functioning eyeball
>>> --
>>> Line dancing, Genealogy, Travel, Photography, Local history & more!
>>>    http://roots-boots.net     mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net
>>> The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for it
>>>  to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its
>>>         own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>  List mailing list
>>> List at tolharndor.org
>>> http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>> List mailing list
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>>
>>
> --
> Line dancing, Genealogy, Travel, Photography, Local history & more!
>     http://roots-boots.net     mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net
> The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for it
>  to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its
>          own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies
>
> _______________________________________________
> List mailing list
> List at tolharndor.org
> http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org
>

From mlk at activ8.net.au  Wed Oct  7 10:00:05 2009
From: mlk at activ8.net.au (Michael Kennedy)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 10:00:05 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Weather
In-Reply-To: <271602.71011.qm@web110209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2F74A465C4BE4827ACC2DE7DA44C2E1B@Michael>

Ted - yes, I am still open to the 1 hour paper. A lot will obviously depend
on the number of abstracts I receive over the next few months, and how to
fit them into the programme, but I would like to mix them up a bit.  

It's not broken into pieces fortunately, just fractured. Apparently, it
takes around 22 days for it to knit up again. It's already been 12 days so
hopefully just another week of discomfort and I'll be right. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
> bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Edwin Scribner
> Sent: Wednesday, 7 October 2009 9:50 AM
> To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Weather
> 
> I'd better get my abstract in then. Are you still open to 1
> hour papers (40m talk 20m questions)? My proposed paper might
> be either half or one hour. It's potentially a wide scope but
> that could be narrowed if necessary.
> 
> Yeah, soccer is less of a contact sport than either Rugby
> League or Aussie Rules, but it's certainly not no-contact. How
> fractured is fractured? Really broken? That sounds rather bad.
> I hope you recover soon.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Herendil
> 
> --- On Wed, 7/10/09, Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au> wrote:
> 
> Orally, although who knows - maybe topical application would be
> best.
> 
> I'm nursing my own injury. I have a fractured left rib as a
> result of a
> soccer collision last week. As long as I don't sneeze it's not
> too bad.
> 
> The Call for Papers for Melbourne's Seminar next year has now
> been published
> in the latest version of Amon Hen with a full page spread. It
> was from this
> point last time that interest from prospective presenters
> picked up.
> Hopefully it will be much the same this time.
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Wed Oct  7 10:18:14 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 10:18:14 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Weather
In-Reply-To: <2F74A465C4BE4827ACC2DE7DA44C2E1B@Michael>
References: <271602.71011.qm@web110209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<2F74A465C4BE4827ACC2DE7DA44C2E1B@Michael>
Message-ID: <ecc18000910061618i3e15b695kb6518794ea55ce19@mail.gmail.com>

What position do you play Mikhail?
(soccer)
jeff

On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au> wrote:

> Ted - yes, I am still open to the 1 hour paper. A lot will obviously depend
> on the number of abstracts I receive over the next few months, and how to
> fit them into the programme, but I would like to mix them up a bit.
>
> It's not broken into pieces fortunately, just fractured. Apparently, it
> takes around 22 days for it to knit up again. It's already been 12 days so
> hopefully just another week of discomfort and I'll be right.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
> > bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Edwin Scribner
> > Sent: Wednesday, 7 October 2009 9:50 AM
> > To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
> > Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Weather
> >
>  > I'd better get my abstract in then. Are you still open to 1
> > hour papers (40m talk 20m questions)? My proposed paper might
> > be either half or one hour. It's potentially a wide scope but
> > that could be narrowed if necessary.
> >
> > Yeah, soccer is less of a contact sport than either Rugby
> > League or Aussie Rules, but it's certainly not no-contact. How
> > fractured is fractured? Really broken? That sounds rather bad.
> > I hope you recover soon.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Herendil
> >
> > --- On Wed, 7/10/09, Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au> wrote:
> >
> > Orally, although who knows - maybe topical application would be
> > best.
> >
> > I'm nursing my own injury. I have a fractured left rib as a
> > result of a
> > soccer collision last week. As long as I don't sneeze it's not
> > too bad.
> >
> > The Call for Papers for Melbourne's Seminar next year has now
> > been published
> > in the latest version of Amon Hen with a full page spread. It
> > was from this
> > point last time that interest from prospective presenters
> > picked up.
> > Hopefully it will be much the same this time.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > ___________________
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From dryad0404 at yahoo.co.uk  Wed Oct  7 10:46:28 2009
From: dryad0404 at yahoo.co.uk (dryad)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 16:46:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Seminar in Amon Hen
In-Reply-To: <D15DC7F189D744B3A314463EF9B57F97@Michael>
Message-ID: <419690.13516.qm@web24609.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Hi Michael,
Hope you are on the mend!??Things have been crazy here in FL. I am still planning to present, if you'll have me, of course. The abstract....hmmmm. 
?
Well, one, I still haven't received my copy of Amon Hen in quite a while and all attempts in the past year to remedy the incorrect address has come to naught. So I don't have the particulars of the seminar.
?
And two, I think I am changing my topic due to the focus of the Seminar. What is your deadline for submission?
?
frustrated in la Florida,
Elise

--- On Tue, 6/10/09, Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au> wrote:


From: Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au>
Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Weather
To: "'Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society'" <list at tolharndor.org>
Date: Tuesday, 6 October, 2009, 6:15 PM



The Call for Papers for Melbourne's Seminar next year has now been published
in the latest version of Amon Hen with a full page spread. It was from this
point last time that interest from prospective presenters picked up.
Hopefully it will be much the same this time.

Michael



      

From mlk at activ8.net.au  Wed Oct  7 17:42:09 2009
From: mlk at activ8.net.au (Michael Kennedy)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 17:42:09 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Weather
In-Reply-To: <ecc18000910061618i3e15b695kb6518794ea55ce19@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8F96489F38FF499ABF52BBF9E95AF2AA@Michael>

As its 5 a side on a half-court, pretty much every position. I'll be
carrying the oranges for a few weeks now.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
> bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Lynch
> Sent: Wednesday, 7 October 2009 10:18 AM
> To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Weather
> 
> What position do you play Mikhail?
> (soccer)
> jeff
> 
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Michael Kennedy
> <mlk at activ8.net.au> wrote:
> 
> > Ted - yes, I am still open to the 1 hour paper. A lot will
> obviously depend
> > on the number of abstracts I receive over the next few months,
> and how to
> > fit them into the programme, but I would like to mix them up
> a bit.
> >
> > It's not broken into pieces fortunately, just fractured.
> Apparently, it
> > takes around 22 days for it to knit up again. It's already
> been 12 days so
> > hopefully just another week of discomfort and I'll be right.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
> > > bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Edwin Scribner
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 7 October 2009 9:50 AM
> > > To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
> > > Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Weather
> > >
> >  > I'd better get my abstract in then. Are you still open to
> 1
> > > hour papers (40m talk 20m questions)? My proposed paper
> might
> > > be either half or one hour. It's potentially a wide scope
> but
> > > that could be narrowed if necessary.
> > >
> > > Yeah, soccer is less of a contact sport than either Rugby
> > > League or Aussie Rules, but it's certainly not no-contact.
> How
> > > fractured is fractured? Really broken? That sounds rather
> bad.
> > > I hope you recover soon.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Herendil
> > >
> > > --- On Wed, 7/10/09, Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Orally, although who knows - maybe topical application
> would be
> > > best.
> > >
> > > I'm nursing my own injury. I have a fractured left rib as a
> > > result of a
> > > soccer collision last week. As long as I don't sneeze it's
> not
> > > too bad.
> > >
> > > The Call for Papers for Melbourne's Seminar next year has
> now
> > > been published
> > > in the latest version of Amon Hen with a full page spread.
> It
> > > was from this
> > > point last time that interest from prospective presenters
> > > picked up.
> > > Hopefully it will be much the same this time.
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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From mlk at activ8.net.au  Wed Oct  7 17:47:44 2009
From: mlk at activ8.net.au (Michael Kennedy)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 17:47:44 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Seminar in Amon Hen
In-Reply-To: <419690.13516.qm@web24609.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <A3C1246DBB324D3F98D2E41C00B287D3@Michael>

Hi Elise,

Of course we will have you. You are entitled to a gold pass so don't concern
yourself. Our website has some info that may help you. 

http://roots-boots.net/tolharndor/seminar09.html

As far as a deadline I don't have one yet. It would be nice to have the
basic structure of the day planned by April I guess, but this is flexible
depending on interest etc.

Michael

> -----Original Message-----
> From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
> bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of dryad
> Sent: Wednesday, 7 October 2009 10:46 AM
> To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
> Subject: [TolHarndor] Seminar in Amon Hen
> 
> Hi Michael,
> Hope you are on the mend!??Things have been crazy here in FL. I
> am still planning to present, if you'll have me, of course. The
> abstract....hmmmm.
> 
> Well, one, I still haven't received my copy of Amon Hen in
> quite a while and all attempts in the past year to remedy the
> incorrect address has come to naught. So I don't have the
> particulars of the seminar.
> 
> And two, I think I am changing my topic due to the focus of the
> Seminar. What is your deadline for submission?
> 
> frustrated in la Florida,
> Elise
> 
> --- On Tue, 6/10/09, Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au>
> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Weather
> To: "'Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society'"
> <list at tolharndor.org>
> Date: Tuesday, 6 October, 2009, 6:15 PM
> 
> 
> 
> The Call for Papers for Melbourne's Seminar next year has now
> been published
> in the latest version of Amon Hen with a full page spread. It
> was from this
> point last time that interest from prospective presenters
> picked up.
> Hopefully it will be much the same this time.
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org



From krenon at y7mail.com  Wed Oct  7 18:43:15 2009
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 00:43:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Fairy King wins again :(
In-Reply-To: <8F96489F38FF499ABF52BBF9E95AF2AA@Michael>
Message-ID: <79067.47898.qm@web110212.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

More snow at Oberon. None here. :(

I'll start writing my abstract for the seminar. However, Friday is for the Leura Gardens, weather permitting.

Oh, btw, at the Blackheath and District Horticultural Society Inc's 82nd Flower and Craft Show, two firsts went to Ros Scribner. I'm sure you've heard that name before :). They were for Mollis Azalea and Hyacinths.

Cheers

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From dragon at roots-boots.net  Wed Oct  7 23:46:59 2009
From: dragon at roots-boots.net (Marayong)
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 23:46:59 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Seminar in Amon Hen
In-Reply-To: <A3C1246DBB324D3F98D2E41C00B287D3@Michael>
References: <A3C1246DBB324D3F98D2E41C00B287D3@Michael>
Message-ID: <4ACC8DC3.30006@roots-boots.net>

Michael Kennedy wrote:
> Hi Elise,
> 
> Of course we will have you. You are entitled to a gold pass so don't concern
> yourself. Our website has some info that may help you. 
> 
> http://roots-boots.net/tolharndor/seminar09.html

While that works, the correct address is:

http://tolharndor.org/seminar09.html

cheers,
Ye One-Eyed Editor & Webbie

.. at least until I can stop the medication. Hmmm.. wonder if I 
shouldn't invest in an eye patch and do an Odin impersonation? :)

> 
> As far as a deadline I don't have one yet. It would be nice to have the
> basic structure of the day planned by April I guess, but this is flexible
> depending on interest etc.
> 
> Michael
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
>> bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of dryad
>> Sent: Wednesday, 7 October 2009 10:46 AM
>> To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
>> Subject: [TolHarndor] Seminar in Amon Hen
>>
>> Hi Michael,
>> Hope you are on the mend!  Things have been crazy here in FL. I
>> am still planning to present, if you'll have me, of course. The
>> abstract....hmmmm.
>>
>> Well, one, I still haven't received my copy of Amon Hen in
>> quite a while and all attempts in the past year to remedy the
>> incorrect address has come to naught. So I don't have the
>> particulars of the seminar.
>>
>> And two, I think I am changing my topic due to the focus of the
>> Seminar. What is your deadline for submission?
>>
>> frustrated in la Florida,
>> Elise
>>
>> --- On Tue, 6/10/09, Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au> wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au>
>> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Weather
>> To: "'Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society'"
>> <list at tolharndor.org>
>> Date: Tuesday, 6 October, 2009, 6:15 PM
>>
>>
>>
>> The Call for Papers for Melbourne's Seminar next year has now
>> been published
>> in the latest version of Amon Hen with a full page spread. It
>> was from this
>> point last time that interest from prospective presenters
>> picked up.
>> Hopefully it will be much the same this time.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> List mailing list
>> List at tolharndor.org
>> http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org
> 
> 
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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Thu Oct  8 09:19:42 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 09:19:42 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Weather
In-Reply-To: <8F96489F38FF499ABF52BBF9E95AF2AA@Michael>
References: <ecc18000910061618i3e15b695kb6518794ea55ce19@mail.gmail.com>
	<8F96489F38FF499ABF52BBF9E95AF2AA@Michael>
Message-ID: <ecc18000910071519o2ae91d7cn5a16733a10b0a81f@mail.gmail.com>

Orangeman........yeah a Kennedy!
jeff

On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au> wrote:

> As its 5 a side on a half-court, pretty much every position. I'll be
> carrying the oranges for a few weeks now.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
>  > bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Lynch
> > Sent: Wednesday, 7 October 2009 10:18 AM
> > To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
> > Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Weather
> >
> > What position do you play Mikhail?
> > (soccer)
> > jeff
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Michael Kennedy
> > <mlk at activ8.net.au> wrote:
> >
> > > Ted - yes, I am still open to the 1 hour paper. A lot will
> > obviously depend
> > > on the number of abstracts I receive over the next few months,
> > and how to
> > > fit them into the programme, but I would like to mix them up
> > a bit.
> > >
> > > It's not broken into pieces fortunately, just fractured.
> > Apparently, it
> > > takes around 22 days for it to knit up again. It's already
> > been 12 days so
> > > hopefully just another week of discomfort and I'll be right.
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
> > > > bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Edwin Scribner
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, 7 October 2009 9:50 AM
> > > > To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
> > > > Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Weather
> > > >
> > >  > I'd better get my abstract in then. Are you still open to
> > 1
> > > > hour papers (40m talk 20m questions)? My proposed paper
> > might
> > > > be either half or one hour. It's potentially a wide scope
> > but
> > > > that could be narrowed if necessary.
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, soccer is less of a contact sport than either Rugby
> > > > League or Aussie Rules, but it's certainly not no-contact.
> > How
> > > > fractured is fractured? Really broken? That sounds rather
> > bad.
> > > > I hope you recover soon.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > >
> > > > Herendil
> > > >
> > > > --- On Wed, 7/10/09, Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Orally, although who knows - maybe topical application
> > would be
> > > > best.
> > > >
> > > > I'm nursing my own injury. I have a fractured left rib as a
> > > > result of a
> > > > soccer collision last week. As long as I don't sneeze it's
> > not
> > > > too bad.
> > > >
> > > > The Call for Papers for Melbourne's Seminar next year has
> > now
> > > > been published
> > > > in the latest version of Amon Hen with a full page spread.
> > It
> > > > was from this
> > > > point last time that interest from prospective presenters
> > > > picked up.
> > > > Hopefully it will be much the same this time.
> > > >
> > > > Michael
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Thu Oct  8 09:22:05 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 09:22:05 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Fairy King wins again :(
In-Reply-To: <79067.47898.qm@web110212.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <8F96489F38FF499ABF52BBF9E95AF2AA@Michael>
	<79067.47898.qm@web110212.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <ecc18000910071522n5e2fad72l5469d4ee187156db@mail.gmail.com>

Full and most unqualified (and glorious) congratulations to Ros
Scibner......
'Spring is sprung the grass is riz I wonder where Ros Scribner is'....they
will all be saying............apologies to Ogden Nash too.
Jeff

On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:

> More snow at Oberon. None here. :(
>
> I'll start writing my abstract for the seminar. However, Friday is for the
> Leura Gardens, weather permitting.
>
> Oh, btw, at the Blackheath and District Horticultural Society Inc's 82nd
> Flower and Craft Show, two firsts went to Ros Scribner. I'm sure you've
> heard that name before :). They were for Mollis Azalea and Hyacinths.
>
> Cheers
>
> - Eadwine (wearing his Saxon hat)
>
>
>
>
>
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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Thu Oct  8 09:27:17 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 09:27:17 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Seminar in Amon Hen
In-Reply-To: <419690.13516.qm@web24609.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
References: <D15DC7F189D744B3A314463EF9B57F97@Michael>
	<419690.13516.qm@web24609.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <ecc18000910071527w709d006cpb20893e82547680@mail.gmail.com>

Dear 'Frustrated in Florida'.......ooh what a writer..titles like that ..I
mean like wow....

you do not (absolutely) tell us what it is that frustrates you.....so it's a
wee bit difficult for (this) Aunty to prescribe or proscribe (for you).

But sometimes taking a nice warm bath......or even a cold one (peutetre) in
Florida that is.....and a good strong cup of tea and a lie down..a sit down
if it's mild....youre state I mean...... not the tea.....
So that's about it then.
Or ...wait a minnie, just grab yourself a big bloke then ......don't just
stand there.DO SOMETHING!!!!
jeff

On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 10:46 AM, dryad <dryad0404 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi Michael,
> Hope you are on the mend!  Things have been crazy here in FL. I am still
> planning to present, if you'll have me, of course. The abstract....hmmmm.
>
> Well, one, I still haven't received my copy of Amon Hen in quite a while
> and all attempts in the past year to remedy the incorrect address has come
> to naught. So I don't have the particulars of the seminar.
>
> And two, I think I am changing my topic due to the focus of the Seminar.
> What is your deadline for submission?
>
> frustrated in la Florida,
> Elise
>
> --- On Tue, 6/10/09, Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au> wrote:
>
>
> From: Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au>
> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Weather
> To: "'Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society'" <list at tolharndor.org>
> Date: Tuesday, 6 October, 2009, 6:15 PM
>
>
>
> The Call for Papers for Melbourne's Seminar next year has now been
> published
> in the latest version of Amon Hen with a full page spread. It was from this
> point last time that interest from prospective presenters picked up.
> Hopefully it will be much the same this time.
>
> Michael
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> List mailing list
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> http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org
>

From krenon at y7mail.com  Thu Oct  8 11:10:12 2009
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 17:10:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Fairy King wins again :(
In-Reply-To: <ecc18000910071522n5e2fad72l5469d4ee187156db@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <512044.72036.qm@web110204.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Funnily enough. there is a meeting of the Blackheath and District Horticultural Society under way right now (as I write this), and neither Ros nor I are there. Ros is off to the city to be at the annual "Wesley Fair" (held, logically enough, at the Wesley Centre) and I'm home because we're having some painting done.

I'm sure that Ros thanks you for the congratulations.

The garden here looks great! Azaleas out. Rhodos out. Camellias just about over but they were good.

Cheers

Herendil

--- On Thu, 8/10/09, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:

Full and most unqualified (and glorious) congratulations to Ros
Scribner......
'Spring is sprung the grass is riz I wonder where Ros Scribner is'....they
will all be saying............apologies to Ogden Nash too.
Jeff





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From dragon at roots-boots.net  Thu Oct  8 22:51:29 2009
From: dragon at roots-boots.net (Marayong)
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:51:29 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Fairy King wins again :(
In-Reply-To: <512044.72036.qm@web110204.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <512044.72036.qm@web110204.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4ACDD241.8010102@roots-boots.net>

Edwin Scribner wrote:
> 
> The garden here looks great! Azaleas out. Rhodos out. Camellias ...

Photos? :)

cheers,
David
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           own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies


From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Fri Oct  9 09:30:52 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:30:52 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Fairy King wins again :(
In-Reply-To: <512044.72036.qm@web110204.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <ecc18000910071522n5e2fad72l5469d4ee187156db@mail.gmail.com>
	<512044.72036.qm@web110204.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <ecc18000910081530k7442f388ve9ab1609f4ac11ba@mail.gmail.com>

Ah my veggie garden looks more like 'mud, mud, glorious mud.
Nothing quite like it for cooling the blood. '
jeff
ps..... apologies to you know who...and who....burt broad beans are
coming.........soooo slowly.
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:

> Funnily enough. there is a meeting of the Blackheath and District
> Horticultural Society under way right now (as I write this), and neither Ros
> nor I are there. Ros is off to the city to be at the annual "Wesley Fair"
> (held, logically enough, at the Wesley Centre) and I'm home because we're
> having some painting done.
>
> I'm sure that Ros thanks you for the congratulations.
>
> The garden here looks great! Azaleas out. Rhodos out. Camellias just about
> over but they were good.
>
> Cheers
>
> Herendil
>
> --- On Thu, 8/10/09, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Full and most unqualified (and glorious) congratulations to Ros
> Scribner......
> 'Spring is sprung the grass is riz I wonder where Ros Scribner is'....they
> will all be saying............apologies to Ogden Nash too.
> Jeff
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Sat Oct 10 09:35:17 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 09:35:17 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Fairy King wins again :(
In-Reply-To: <4ACDD241.8010102@roots-boots.net>
References: <512044.72036.qm@web110204.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<4ACDD241.8010102@roots-boots.net>
Message-ID: <ecc18000910091535h4907b86ajbaf6b6cfb120aed8@mail.gmail.com>

Weather Report.......from Harndor of Tol Harndor.............blue skies
stretching from horizon to horizon could that I could see it............
Say it will be 20 here...........
chilly pms make a bonny day alway.
My negotiations mit Dagmar......the man who was a woman.........see previous
letter.....I  have a (possible) flight plan.....to Sing ...to Munich and
then to Wien (Vienna) starting from 2nd of April.......sounds gut to
me....but.....

nothing set in aspic as yet though.......
return....? late June ...v early july...depending on the dough hanging
out....a close thing it will be too.
Tschuss .......Jeffrey

From dryad0404 at yahoo.co.uk  Mon Oct 12 11:21:52 2009
From: dryad0404 at yahoo.co.uk (dryad)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:21:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Seminar in Amon Hen
In-Reply-To: <A3C1246DBB324D3F98D2E41C00B287D3@Michael>
Message-ID: <781153.65008.qm@web24613.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Hi Michael,
?
You are most gracious. Thanks for the link! I shall endeavour to have a firm abstract/paper ready well before the deadline. :)

--- On Wed, 7/10/09, Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au> wrote:


From: Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au>
Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Seminar in Amon Hen
To: "'Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society'" <list at tolharndor.org>
Date: Wednesday, 7 October, 2009, 2:47 AM


Hi Elise,

Of course we will have you. You are entitled to a gold pass so don't concern
yourself. Our website has some info that may help you. 

http://roots-boots.net/tolharndor/seminar09.html

As far as a deadline I don't have one yet. It would be nice to have the
basic structure of the day planned by April I guess, but this is flexible
depending on interest etc.

Michael

> -----Original Message-----
> From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
> bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of dryad
> Sent: Wednesday, 7 October 2009 10:46 AM
> To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
> Subject: [TolHarndor] Seminar in Amon Hen
> 
> Hi Michael,
> Hope you are on the mend!??Things have been crazy here in FL. I
> am still planning to present, if you'll have me, of course. The
> abstract....hmmmm.
> 
> Well, one, I still haven't received my copy of Amon Hen in
> quite a while and all attempts in the past year to remedy the
> incorrect address has come to naught. So I don't have the
> particulars of the seminar.
> 
> And two, I think I am changing my topic due to the focus of the
> Seminar. What is your deadline for submission?
> 
> frustrated in la Florida,
> Elise
> 
> --- On Tue, 6/10/09, Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au>
> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Weather
> To: "'Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society'"
> <list at tolharndor.org>
> Date: Tuesday, 6 October, 2009, 6:15 PM
> 
> 
> 
> The Call for Papers for Melbourne's Seminar next year has now
> been published
> in the latest version of Amon Hen with a full page spread. It
> was from this
> point last time that interest from prospective presenters
> picked up.
> Hopefully it will be much the same this time.
> 
> Michael
> 
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From dragon at roots-boots.net  Mon Oct 12 14:22:14 2009
From: dragon at roots-boots.net (Marayong)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:22:14 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Tony?
Message-ID: <4AD2A0E6.6040202@roots-boots.net>

Jeff,

Putting the spray paint art onto the Seminar09 page ... but I need to
know Tony's last name????

Also ... where are the proceeds to the auction going? To cover the 
Moot's expense, to charity, to Tony .. or other?

cheers,
David
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   to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its
            own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies



From dragon at roots-boots.net  Tue Oct 13 13:48:47 2009
From: dragon at roots-boots.net (Marayong)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:48:47 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Tony?
In-Reply-To: <ecc18000910121521l54ba830alba291ff31eb742f4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4AD29FF5.8050409@roots-boots.net>
	<ecc18000910121521l54ba830alba291ff31eb742f4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AD3EA8F.3090702@roots-boots.net>

G'day Tony,

Thanks ... I'm in the middle of adding the stuff to the seminar 09 page. 
Is there any information on the commissioned artwork? I assume it'll be 
on a Tolkien theme .. anything more specific than that? I also assume 
it'll be a spray paint work ... are there any details on it .. such as 
what it will be on .. canvas, metal, etc? And is there a rough idea of 
the size?

One more question ... I took a couple of fotos of a spray paint artist 
when I was in Melbourne ... is this your friend? I know there's not a 
clear shot of his face.

I'm asking cuz if it is, I can use this foto as well.

The foto should come thru' on the list. If it doesn't, I'm ccing this 
direct as well.

cheers,
David


Jeff Lynch wrote:
> Ha and Tony's surname is Galdas...
> You might menation their business....Galdas Motor Auto Repairs  ...(in 
> Albert Street Brunswick, 3056)
> Profits...I asked OFL this........he was positive about this......all 
> proceeds to go to the artist Tony...not even a sausage of (commission 
> for moi)....!!!!!!...mmmmmmm.
> Thanks.....eh, and soon THE HUMBY piece heads your way Ye Ed....do not 
> try to edit it......too long........just publish and be praised............
> jeff
> 
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Marayong <dragon at roots-boots.net 
> <mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net>> wrote:
> 
> 
>     Jeff,
> 
>     Putting the spray paint art onto the Seminar09 page ... but I need to
>     know Tony's last name????
> 
>     cheers,
>     David
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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Fri Oct 16 10:25:36 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 10:25:36 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Seminar in Amon Hen
In-Reply-To: <A3C1246DBB324D3F98D2E41C00B287D3@Michael>
References: <419690.13516.qm@web24609.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
	<A3C1246DBB324D3F98D2E41C00B287D3@Michael>
Message-ID: <ecc18000910151625l16acc22r22b8014b12d42959@mail.gmail.com>

>
> In Yarrawonga.......also reading Diaries of one Victor Klemperer....THe
> Lesser of Two Evils.this being Vol 2 of 2...He is refering to Communism...as
> in the old GDR ...East Germany.he lived in Dresden....the fire bombings most
> likely saved him from the Gassings..(he was a part Jew) an academic of some
> bearing..tho a declared protestant from an early age....you the panic after
> the awful Dresden bombings really saved (some of) the surviving Jews of
> Dresden...bombings in 1945
>
jeff...from the Codland.......keep looking for........(my) THe Water, the
water.

From mlk at activ8.net.au  Sat Oct 17 15:55:03 2009
From: mlk at activ8.net.au (Michael Kennedy)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 15:55:03 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Seminar in Amon Hen
In-Reply-To: <ecc18000910151625l16acc22r22b8014b12d42959@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3E5602FFB815458E846F4E668137AE11@Michael>

Sounds like heavy going jeff! I just finished Secretum by Monaldi and Sorti.
They're a couple of Italians basically exiled from their homeland because of
their first novel Imprimatur. If you like history, conspiracy and mystery
then look out for it.

I became an uncle yesterday! Nephew's name is Ronan, which is not far off
Rohan.

Michael 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
> bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Lynch
> Sent: Friday, 16 October 2009 10:26 AM
> To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Seminar in Amon Hen
> 
> >
> > In Yarrawonga.......also reading Diaries of one Victor
> Klemperer....THe
> > Lesser of Two Evils.this being Vol 2 of 2...He is refering to
> Communism...as
> > in the old GDR ...East Germany.he lived in Dresden....the
> fire bombings most
> > likely saved him from the Gassings..(he was a part Jew) an
> academic of some
> > bearing..tho a declared protestant from an early age....you
> the panic after
> > the awful Dresden bombings really saved (some of) the
> surviving Jews of
> > Dresden...bombings in 1945
> >
> jeff...from the Codland.......keep looking for........(my) THe
> Water, the
> water.
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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Sun Oct 18 09:42:39 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 09:42:39 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Seminar in Amon Hen
In-Reply-To: <3E5602FFB815458E846F4E668137AE11@Michael>
References: <ecc18000910151625l16acc22r22b8014b12d42959@mail.gmail.com>
	<3E5602FFB815458E846F4E668137AE11@Michael>
Message-ID: <ecc18000910171542j31395ab7hacf7fb4c7e78c341@mail.gmail.com>

Ronan,
Another word for a (type) of Samurai
surely????..congrats to UNCLE...you got the easy part of the deal M!
Yeah......the Klemperer diaries ( 2 voumes) are not the stuff ( where) you
read every word..
But they ARE seminal for a real understanding of what happened in Urban
Germany ..circa 1933...to 1945...he was v lucky to survive indeed.

I don't really know why ...I need to know more of (above.)
Back from Yarrawonga...all (3) water tanks full..no rain in Yarrawonga.
jeff
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au> wrote:

> Sounds like heavy going jeff! I just finished Secretum by Monaldi and
> Sorti.
> They're a couple of Italians basically exiled from their homeland because
> of
> their first novel Imprimatur. If you like history, conspiracy and mystery
> then look out for it.
>
> I became an uncle yesterday! Nephew's name is Ronan, which is not far off
> Rohan.
>
> Michael
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
> > bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Lynch
> > Sent: Friday, 16 October 2009 10:26 AM
> > To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
> > Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Seminar in Amon Hen
> >
> > >
>  > > In Yarrawonga.......also reading Diaries of one Victor
> > Klemperer....THe
> > > Lesser of Two Evils.this being Vol 2 of 2...He is refering to
> > Communism...as
> > > in the old GDR ...East Germany.he lived in Dresden....the
> > fire bombings most
> > > likely saved him from the Gassings..(he was a part Jew) an
> > academic of some
> > > bearing..tho a declared protestant from an early age....you
> > the panic after
> > > the awful Dresden bombings really saved (some of) the
> > surviving Jews of
> > > Dresden...bombings in 1945
> > >
> > jeff...from the Codland.......keep looking for........(my) THe
> > Water, the
> > water.
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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Mon Oct 19 09:43:01 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 09:43:01 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Seminar in Amon Hen
In-Reply-To: <3E5602FFB815458E846F4E668137AE11@Michael>
References: <ecc18000910151625l16acc22r22b8014b12d42959@mail.gmail.com>
	<3E5602FFB815458E846F4E668137AE11@Michael>
Message-ID: <ecc18000910181543r370bacb6g8284f0aaa5319762@mail.gmail.com>

Weather report today is to do with a choice (likely) of a method ...err
flying to Vienna by moi......
Mikhail is probably already is aware of the 777 200 and 3000 LR series of
Boeing aircraft.....If I do choose Qatar Airlines to Vienna via Doha....I
will travel on the 777 200 LR.....for the uniniated LR ....... but may be
wrong that the 200 series is the second longest passenger plane going after
the 300......it's a quick and (hopefully) short changeover trip....
All the way to Doha....(from Melbourne) non.... stop....smaller craft to
Wien.
Meaning one stop to Europe....mit only 2 hours in between at Doha.
As I did on the last 2 trips....Berlin(Germany etc) and then North
Wales......Beddgelert I am going on business class....Yum!
If it does interest you (one bit) ...google Qtar Airlines....lock onto
7772000 LR...see short filmic presentations...
jeff

From mlk at activ8.net.au  Tue Oct 20 17:53:21 2009
From: mlk at activ8.net.au (Michael Kennedy)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:53:21 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Seminar in Amon Hen
In-Reply-To: <ecc18000910181543r370bacb6g8284f0aaa5319762@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6DA3FA7C442249959AF1EBAA69B01F3B@Michael>

Travelling in style! I'm more familiar with the smaller planes as most of my
trips are domestic or across the Tasman. I took a Dash 8 to Coffs Harbour
the other week - that was fun!

What are the dates Jeff?

PS. I have received several abstracts for our little shindig. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
> bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Lynch
> Sent: Monday, 19 October 2009 9:43 AM
> To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Seminar in Amon Hen
> 
> Weather report today is to do with a choice (likely) of a
> method ...err
> flying to Vienna by moi......
> Mikhail is probably already is aware of the 777 200 and 3000 LR
> series of
> Boeing aircraft.....If I do choose Qatar Airlines to Vienna via
> Doha....I
> will travel on the 777 200 LR.....for the uniniated LR .......
> but may be
> wrong that the 200 series is the second longest passenger plane
> going after
> the 300......it's a quick and (hopefully) short changeover
> trip....
> All the way to Doha....(from Melbourne) non.... stop....smaller
> craft to
> Wien.
> Meaning one stop to Europe....mit only 2 hours in between at
> Doha.
> As I did on the last 2 trips....Berlin(Germany etc) and then
> North
> Wales......Beddgelert I am going on business class....Yum!
> If it does interest you (one bit) ...google Qtar
> Airlines....lock onto
> 7772000 LR...see short filmic presentations...
> jeff
> _______________________________________________
> List mailing list
> List at tolharndor.org
> http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org



From dragon at roots-boots.net  Wed Oct 21 08:43:57 2009
From: dragon at roots-boots.net (David Powell)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 08:43:57 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] down time
In-Reply-To: <6DA3FA7C442249959AF1EBAA69B01F3B@Michael>
References: <6DA3FA7C442249959AF1EBAA69B01F3B@Michael>
Message-ID: <20091021084357.nu9rxm5ksgscgw80@roots-boots.net>

G'day folks,

The list has had considerable down time in the past 24 hours. One of  
the other customers on the webhost I use has been hit by a DDOS attack  
which has taken the server down several times in the past day and a  
bit. Between preventative actions and the tailing off of the attack,  
it seems to have settled down now, but could be down again at any time.

For the non-pc techos, a DDOS is a Directed Denial of Service attack.  
It's where a bot-net (a whole mass of malware infected pc's) is used  
to bring down a website by basically swamping it and bringing it to  
it's knees .. and beyond. Since I used a shared hosting, that means I  
share the server with a lot of others, including the one that was  
attacked, so my site was down as well (and that includes Tol harndor &  
the mail list).

cheers,
David
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  Australian Linedance website of the year: Tamworth 2005,2007,2008
      http://roots-boots.net     mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net
The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for it
  to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its
           own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies




From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Wed Oct 21 08:51:32 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 08:51:32 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] down time
In-Reply-To: <20091021084357.nu9rxm5ksgscgw80@roots-boots.net>
References: <6DA3FA7C442249959AF1EBAA69B01F3B@Michael>
	<20091021084357.nu9rxm5ksgscgw80@roots-boots.net>
Message-ID: <ecc18000910201451p21b0fb03n67eaaa9a6dac203f@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Davy,
I have seen the works by Tony....looks grand...I will tell him to have a
peep....he will be chuffed I hope..Ta!
Jeff

On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 8:43 AM, David Powell <dragon at roots-boots.net>wrote:

> G'day folks,
>
> The list has had considerable down time in the past 24 hours. One of the
> other customers on the webhost I use has been hit by a DDOS attack which has
> taken the server down several times in the past day and a bit. Between
> preventative actions and the tailing off of the attack, it seems to have
> settled down now, but could be down again at any time.
>
> For the non-pc techos, a DDOS is a Directed Denial of Service attack. It's
> where a bot-net (a whole mass of malware infected pc's) is used to bring
> down a website by basically swamping it and bringing it to it's knees .. and
> beyond. Since I used a shared hosting, that means I share the server with a
> lot of others, including the one that was attacked, so my site was down as
> well (and that includes Tol harndor & the mail list).
>
> cheers,
> David
> --
>  Australian Linedance website of the year: Tamworth 2005,2007,2008
>     http://roots-boots.net     mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net
> The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for it
>  to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its
>          own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> List mailing list
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>

From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Wed Oct 21 08:54:21 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 08:54:21 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Seminar in Amon Hen
In-Reply-To: <6DA3FA7C442249959AF1EBAA69B01F3B@Michael>
References: <ecc18000910181543r370bacb6g8284f0aaa5319762@mail.gmail.com>
	<6DA3FA7C442249959AF1EBAA69B01F3B@Michael>
Message-ID: <ecc18000910201454l5717ebbcqce00912844d60371@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah well (you Only live once) ...could be that I AM WRONG HERE.....but I
will really look forward to the 777.2000 LR....
Seen the Odyssey Page...congrats to David....Tony(artist will see his stuff
up)...sure it may inspire the lad.
Dash 8..please explane...ex...plane
jeff



On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au> wrote:

> Travelling in style! I'm more familiar with the smaller planes as most of
> my
> trips are domestic or across the Tasman. I took a Dash 8 to Coffs Harbour
> the other week - that was fun!
>
> What are the dates Jeff?
>
> PS. I have received several abstracts for our little shindig.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
> > bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Lynch
> > Sent: Monday, 19 October 2009 9:43 AM
> > To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
> > Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Seminar in Amon Hen
> >
>  > Weather report today is to do with a choice (likely) of a
> > method ...err
> > flying to Vienna by moi......
> > Mikhail is probably already is aware of the 777 200 and 3000 LR
> > series of
> > Boeing aircraft.....If I do choose Qatar Airlines to Vienna via
> > Doha....I
> > will travel on the 777 200 LR.....for the uniniated LR .......
> > but may be
> > wrong that the 200 series is the second longest passenger plane
> > going after
> > the 300......it's a quick and (hopefully) short changeover
> > trip....
> > All the way to Doha....(from Melbourne) non.... stop....smaller
> > craft to
> > Wien.
> > Meaning one stop to Europe....mit only 2 hours in between at
> > Doha.
> > As I did on the last 2 trips....Berlin(Germany etc) and then
> > North
> > Wales......Beddgelert I am going on business class....Yum!
> > If it does interest you (one bit) ...google Qtar
> > Airlines....lock onto
> > 7772000 LR...see short filmic presentations...
> > jeff
>  > _______________________________________________
> > List mailing list
> > List at tolharndor.org
> > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> List mailing list
> List at tolharndor.org
> http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org
>

From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Wed Oct 21 08:56:35 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 08:56:35 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] down time
In-Reply-To: <20091021084357.nu9rxm5ksgscgw80@roots-boots.net>
References: <6DA3FA7C442249959AF1EBAA69B01F3B@Michael>
	<20091021084357.nu9rxm5ksgscgw80@roots-boots.net>
Message-ID: <ecc18000910201456j19a6b0afic6b2a177aca2966@mail.gmail.com>

Sending HUMBOLD this day Davy...ignore anything else on same disc....if
there is anything!
jeff
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 8:43 AM, David Powell <dragon at roots-boots.net>wrote:

> G'day folks,
>
> The list has had considerable down time in the past 24 hours. One of the
> other customers on the webhost I use has been hit by a DDOS attack which has
> taken the server down several times in the past day and a bit. Between
> preventative actions and the tailing off of the attack, it seems to have
> settled down now, but could be down again at any time.
>
> For the non-pc techos, a DDOS is a Directed Denial of Service attack. It's
> where a bot-net (a whole mass of malware infected pc's) is used to bring
> down a website by basically swamping it and bringing it to it's knees .. and
> beyond. Since I used a shared hosting, that means I share the server with a
> lot of others, including the one that was attacked, so my site was down as
> well (and that includes Tol harndor & the mail list).
>
> cheers,
> David
> --
>  Australian Linedance website of the year: Tamworth 2005,2007,2008
>     http://roots-boots.net     mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net
> The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for it
>  to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its
>          own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> List mailing list
> List at tolharndor.org
> http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org
>

From dragon at roots-boots.net  Wed Oct 21 15:12:57 2009
From: dragon at roots-boots.net (David Powell)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:12:57 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] down time
In-Reply-To: <ecc18000910201456j19a6b0afic6b2a177aca2966@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6DA3FA7C442249959AF1EBAA69B01F3B@Michael>
	<20091021084357.nu9rxm5ksgscgw80@roots-boots.net>
	<ecc18000910201456j19a6b0afic6b2a177aca2966@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20091021151257.6smc4azsux44gwgo@roots-boots.net>

G'day all,

Further to the down time news ... it appears tho' it will never been  
proven for privacy reasons that it was linked to the DDOS attack on  
the athiestfoundation.org website over the past day and half. As last  
night this site was on the same server as Tol Harndor (and my own  
site), but its account has now been terminated by the web host and  
they have moved elsewhere. Hopefully that means the problem is over.

An article in The Age indicated the attack was very similar to one on  
the Scientologists earlier in the year so it is possible it was a  
carefully timed revenge attack - a day or two ago the atheist site  
began selling tickets to a conference coming up in Melbourne and of  
course tix sales have been killed.

All appears well now.

cheers,
Admin
-- 
  Australian Linedance website of the year: Tamworth 2005,2007,2008
      http://roots-boots.net     mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net
The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for it
  to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its
           own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies




From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Thu Oct 22 08:41:40 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 08:41:40 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] down time
In-Reply-To: <20091021151257.6smc4azsux44gwgo@roots-boots.net>
References: <6DA3FA7C442249959AF1EBAA69B01F3B@Michael>
	<20091021084357.nu9rxm5ksgscgw80@roots-boots.net>
	<ecc18000910201456j19a6b0afic6b2a177aca2966@mail.gmail.com>
	<20091021151257.6smc4azsux44gwgo@roots-boots.net>
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Mmm....could it be the religos care so much that they delght in assaulting
poor aetheists in terror assaults once gain?
Do they wish to bring back putting the question...auto de la fes yet?
Ah the blessings of Christianity are but many....
David...today I am sending a (history) artcle....bout Vesuvius....at time of
Pliny the Younger....yep when the destruction of Pompey occurred...sending
it electronically...yesterday I posted you a disc.with Humby on it...
Cheeerio...Tol of Tol Harndor...fine day here....
jeff

On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 3:12 PM, David Powell <dragon at roots-boots.net>wrote:

> G'day all,
>
> Further to the down time news ... it appears tho' it will never been proven
> for privacy reasons that it was linked to the DDOS attack on the
> athiestfoundation.org website over the past day and half. As last night
> this site was on the same server as Tol Harndor (and my own site), but its
> account has now been terminated by the web host and they have moved
> elsewhere. Hopefully that means the problem is over.
>
> An article in The Age indicated the attack was very similar to one on the
> Scientologists earlier in the year so it is possible it was a carefully
> timed revenge attack - a day or two ago the atheist site began selling
> tickets to a conference coming up in Melbourne and of course tix sales have
> been killed.
>
> All appears well now.
>
> cheers,
> Admin
>
> --
>  Australian Linedance website of the year: Tamworth 2005,2007,2008
>     http://roots-boots.net     mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net
> The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for it
>  to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its
>          own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies
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From dragon at roots-boots.net  Thu Oct 22 16:57:12 2009
From: dragon at roots-boots.net (Marayong)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:57:12 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] down time
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Jeff Lynch wrote:

Hmmm... Jeff, why do you assume it was a christian group (or a group 
claiming to be christian, which is definitely not the same thing)? There 
are many religions in the world and by definition all of them are in the 
gunshot target of the atheist movement. Extreme self-proclaimed 
adherents of any religion may have been the culprit of the attack in 
question. And with access to the internet and computer skills these days 
found in every country of the world, no matter how backward and 
otherwise technologically 'primitive', you can't even exclude obscure 
third world religions.

The writer of an article in the Age/SMH (appeared in both) suggested a 
possible connection with the scientologists .. who anyone who knows more 
than a little about would happily agree they are in no shape or form 
anything remotely connected with christianity.

The question as to which religious group, if any, was behind the attack 
(it may not have been religiously motivated after all) is also a rather 
moot point. Such actions would be contrary to the teachings of most 
religions and those committing such acts would be doing so against the 
tenets of the religion they claimed to belong. Even a casual perusal of 
history will show that so-called religious extremists (of any religion) 
have little in common with the religion they profess to represent and in 
fact their own beliefs and actions are contrary to not only the 
teachings of said religion but also the views of the vast majority of 
followers who often consider said extremists to not be genuine followers 
of their religion.

And, as I said, the attack may not even be religiously motivated. 
There're other reasons including a very disgruntled former member of the 
organisation that was attacked or a former partner of a leader of said 
organisation .. and so on and so on.

> David...today I am sending a (history) artcle....bout Vesuvius....at time of
> Pliny the Younger....yep when the destruction of Pompey occurred...sending
> it electronically...yesterday I posted you a disc.with Humby on it...

Got it ... the Roman attachment, that is. Not Humby .. that'll still be 
on the snail's back.

cheers,
David
-- 
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      http://roots-boots.net     mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net
The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for it
  to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its
           own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies


From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Fri Oct 23 09:17:57 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 09:17:57 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] down time
In-Reply-To: <4ADFF438.3080402@roots-boots.net>
References: <6DA3FA7C442249959AF1EBAA69B01F3B@Michael>
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Well David everything that you said on the internet attack makes sense......

........still does not get (all kinds of) Christians ......of all kinds I
say...... off the hook for their unspeakable bestialty over the
centuries......again and again and etc.....The thirty Years
War(Germany)....France....Mass murders of BOTH SIDES for a couple of
Centuries......England over and over again...to the stake..........whoever
comes out on top murders the others ..(as examples!)...in Russia,,,,
Orthodox blokes murder Jews and other non orthodoxes.....pogroms are
abundant....in Italy the Pope burns to death the leading scientist of the
day...Bruno..he threatens to do the same to an
astonomer........Galileo............even though all the examining Cardinals
KNOW that G is rightand the C church is WRONG........do not THINK that he's
right...but KNOW it to be so.....????...for GOOD policy!

...the .Pope thinks that Cardinal Ximinez's idea (in Spain)of the Inquistion
is soooooo good that he copies it for himself.... v productive it is
too...more murders.....................auto de la fe's...they expell all
Jews that are left....from Spain.......the rest if they have not recanted
have been murdered.....Spain collapses later........WHY?.... mainly because
of the lack of good money handlers, economists...money lenders and the
like........ie the JEWS.......

Besides like Groucho....I will never belong to a group that would have me in
it! ......I betcha that most of Adolf's Bavarian SA boys..............early
brownshirts and the like were brought up as luvely Roman Catholic
boys.......( Bavaria a v comfortable Cathloic place
indeed)...........Austria where Adolf came from too..the same....with
wonderful Baroque Cathedrals and churches..... .( Catholic Buildings worth
many many fortunes).... Catholics....who also just loved to hate
communists....still did..(Cathlolics I mean..... in Australia)The Godless
Ones.... ...when I was a young boy.......in the fifties.........we also
fought (with words at least) in the streets.....mind you protestants over
many centuries did love to chop up the Papal boyhos as well.

I can still remember how shocked I was ..on my first trip to
Britain...1967...
To see what was written on toilet walls and ghetto walls in
Scotland..Glasgow and the like.LOndon tooo
...the Hatred for Proddies agin the Micks....and vice versa of course...
Shocking was not the word...death over a footy game....good fun too.

 (my wife) and I are told to to get out of Glasgow one night.....it was a
Saturday night.He (a publican) was being nice to us......
Celtic were playing the Rangers....in Glasgow that night...ie...Micks versus
the Proddies
There will be trouble...even death he told us...... said...He was
right!....we got out fast!
...it was good fun I suppose to fight.....It's so sad as a minor and amateur
historian..like me to be constantly reminded (that humans) are such sick
bastards when the chips are  down.

Fight we hate peace........of course you can also argue that committed
atheists.....(USSR)...(CHINA)...Southern EAST Europe. South Asia...( as in
The Killing Fields).....South Central Europe.......say like Hungary in the
late fifties.....were also unspeakable in their ruthless and inhumane
treatment of percieved enemies...read Arthur Koestler....'Darkness at
Noon.'...the DDR (East Germany...where the Nazi concentration camps were
suddenly filled with Rightists!........about every sixth person was almost a
spy for the STATE....all this IS true.....

Dr Suess was right.....if you have humans...one side must paint spots on
themself...the others must paint stripes over themselves........why must we
always do this? Are we v sick animals? most of the time ..we ARE...this is
almost beyond contradiction.....power reins by suppressing and torturing the
spotted ones...ipso facto...their turn comes and they do it to the striped
ones.....
Still...there's a little less fun if you don't have enemies to torture I
guess....and l could guess that you have to have enemies to be strong don't
you........ I suppose?
Still like (Ms Anne Frank) I am an more of a full glass person than a half
glass one.....why? I do not know...it's just the way my Mummy made me ..I
guess.....I cannot be silent on this bloody subject though........
(with love).....jeff

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Marayong <dragon at roots-boots.net> wrote:

> Jeff Lynch wrote:
>
> Hmmm... Jeff, why do you assume it was a christian group (or a group
> claiming to be christian, which is definitely not the same thing)? There are
> many religions in the world and by definition all of them are in the gunshot
> target of the atheist movement. Extreme self-proclaimed adherents of any
> religion may have been the culprit of the attack in question. And with
> access to the internet and computer skills these days found in every country
> of the world, no matter how backward and otherwise technologically
> 'primitive', you can't even exclude obscure third world religions.
>
> The writer of an article in the Age/SMH (appeared in both) suggested a
> possible connection with the scientologists .. who anyone who knows more
> than a little about would happily agree they are in no shape or form
> anything remotely connected with christianity.
>
> The question as to which religious group, if any, was behind the attack (it
> may not have been religiously motivated after all) is also a rather moot
> point. Such actions would be contrary to the teachings of most religions and
> those committing such acts would be doing so against the tenets of the
> religion they claimed to belong. Even a casual perusal of history will show
> that so-called religious extremists (of any religion) have little in common
> with the religion they profess to represent and in fact their own beliefs
> and actions are contrary to not only the teachings of said religion but also
> the views of the vast majority of followers who often consider said
> extremists to not be genuine followers of their religion.
>
> And, as I said, the attack may not even be religiously motivated. There're
> other reasons including a very disgruntled former member of the organisation
> that was attacked or a former partner of a leader of said organisation ..
> and so on and so on.
>
> David...today I am sending a (history) artcle....bout Vesuvius....at time
>> of
>> Pliny the Younger....yep when the destruction of Pompey occurred...sending
>> it electronically...yesterday I posted you a disc.with Humby on it...
>>
>
> Got it ... the Roman attachment, that is. Not Humby .. that'll still be on
> the snail's back.
>
> cheers,
> David
> --
> Line dancing, Genealogy, Travel, Photography, Local history & more!
>
>     http://roots-boots.net     mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net
> The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for it
>  to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its
>          own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies
>
> _______________________________________________
> List mailing list
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>

From dragon at roots-boots.net  Fri Oct 23 17:46:24 2009
From: dragon at roots-boots.net (Marayong)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:46:24 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] down time
In-Reply-To: <ecc18000910221517k2e4018b2we16a957803ec8461@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6DA3FA7C442249959AF1EBAA69B01F3B@Michael>	<20091021084357.nu9rxm5ksgscgw80@roots-boots.net>	<ecc18000910201456j19a6b0afic6b2a177aca2966@mail.gmail.com>	<20091021151257.6smc4azsux44gwgo@roots-boots.net>	<ecc18000910211441t638aae39h6c17e2016564cccf@mail.gmail.com>	<4ADFF438.3080402@roots-boots.net>
	<ecc18000910221517k2e4018b2we16a957803ec8461@mail.gmail.com>
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Jeff,

Humbie arrived today.

> Well David everything that you said on the internet attack makes sense...

Just keep in mind that just because someone claims to be a member of an 
organisation and publicly claims to follow the teachings/beliefs/etc of 
said organisation, does not mean that the aforesaid person actually 
believes in said teachings etc.

Throughout history religions of all stripes have been hijacked by others 
with rather more secular motives. The crusades, for instance, were less 
(much) about religion than they were about those instigating the 
crusades desiring to increase their wealth and power. Or a non-religious 
example .. the American civil war ... generally touted as being over the 
issue of slavery. It was in fact all about economics .. the south was on 
the verge of industrialising, something the north didn't want (the south 
was the biggest market of the north's industries), so the north 
proceeded to crush to south 'officially' to abolish slavery but in 
reality to protect the interests of the moneyed and powers of the north. 
There were of course many who believed at the time it was about slavery, 
but while a democracy may mean the majority 'think' they get the leaders 
they want, it does not mean that what the majority believe is actually true.

The inquisitions? Less about preserving the purity of belief as rooting 
out those individuals and groups who would not kowtow to those in power. 
It's more a condemnation of the individuals than the organisation that 
was prostituted by those individuals to achieve their own personal gains.

> abundant....in Italy the Pope burns to death the leading scientist of the
> day...Bruno..he threatens to do the same to an
> astonomer........Galileo............even though all the examining Cardinals
> KNOW that G is rightand the C church is WRONG........do not THINK that he's
> right...but KNOW it to be so.....????...for GOOD policy!

Galileo got into trouble not because of his theories but because of his 
political connections ... he was in with the wrong people.

WW2 .. as bad as the holocaust was, large numbers of other people were 
also murdered by the nazis. In Poland they just killed Poles .. they 
didn't discriminate on religious grounds. A lot of German catholics were 
collaborators, but a lot ended up in the gas chambers etc because they 
would not collaborate. A lot of catholic clergy ended up in the gas 
chambers as well.

See:
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_Catholics_were_killed_in_the_Holocaust
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

> Fight we hate peace........of course you can also argue that committed
> atheists.....(USSR)...(CHINA)...Southern EAST Europe. South Asia...( as in
> The Killing Fields).....South Central Europe.......say like Hungary in the
> late fifties.....were also unspeakable in their ruthless and inhumane
> treatment of percieved enemies...read Arthur Koestler....'Darkness at
> Noon.'...the DDR (East Germany...where the Nazi concentration camps were
> suddenly filled with Rightists!........about every sixth person was almost a
> spy for the STATE....all this IS true.....

Indeed. Virtually every human belief and institution has been hijacked 
over the millenia for evil purposes, purposes totally contrary to the 
teachings of the aforesaid belief.

> Dr Suess was right.....if you have humans...one side must paint spots on
> themself...the others must paint stripes over themselves........why must we
> always do this? Are we v sick animals?

Biologically humans are herd animals ... you belong to one herd or 
another ... and different herds have little tolerance for other herds in 
the animal kingdom. Sometimes the differences between fighting human 
herds is more imagined or created than it is real. :(

BTW ... the attack continues. :(

cheers,
David
-- 
Line dancing, Genealogy, Travel, Photography, Local history & more!
      http://roots-boots.net     mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net
The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for it
  to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its
           own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies


From krenon at y7mail.com  Sun Oct 25 08:14:01 2009
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 14:14:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TolHarndor]  happy 594th anniversary...
In-Reply-To: <4AE15140.608@roots-boots.net>
Message-ID: <848733.12029.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

... of the battle of Agincourt.

This day is call'd the feast of Crispian. 
He that outlives this day, and comes safe home, 
Will stand a tip-toe when this day is nam'd, 
And rouse him at the name of Crispian. 
He that shall live this day, and see old age, 
Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours, 
And say 'To-morrow is Saint Crispian.' 
Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars, 
And say 'These wounds I had on Crispian's day.' 
Old men forget; yet all shall be forgot, 
But he'll remember, with advantages, 
What feats he did that day. Then shall our names, 
Familiar in his mouth as household words- 
Harry the King, Bedford and Exeter, 
Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester- 
Be in their flowing cups freshly rememb'red. 
This story shall the good man teach his son; 
And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by, 
>From this day to the ending of the world, 
But we in it shall be remembered- 
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers; 
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me 
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile, 
This day shall gentle his condition; 
And gentlemen in England now-a-bed 
Shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here, 
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks 
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day. 

- Shakespeare: King Henry the Fifth



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From mlk at activ8.net.au  Sun Oct 25 10:43:56 2009
From: mlk at activ8.net.au (Michael Kennedy)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 10:43:56 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Seminar in Amon Hen
In-Reply-To: <ecc18000910201454l5717ebbcqce00912844d60371@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6F333A83ED154CF89047FD7B5BD25A92@Michael>

Jeff,
 
Here's a Dash-8. I think they seat around 30 or so people, maybe more. 
 

 
I checked out Tony's works. You wouldn't believe that its all done with
spray-paint! 
 
Michael
 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
> bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Lynch
> Sent: Wednesday, 21 October 2009 8:54 AM
> To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Seminar in Amon Hen
> 
> Yeah well (you Only live once) ...could be that I AM WRONG
> HERE.....but I
> will really look forward to the 777.2000 LR....
> Seen the Odyssey Page...congrats to David....Tony(artist will
> see his stuff
> up)...sure it may inspire the lad.
> Dash 8..please explane...ex...plane
> jeff
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Michael Kennedy
> <mlk at activ8.net.au> wrote:
> 
> > Travelling in style! I'm more familiar with the smaller
> planes as most of
> > my
> > trips are domestic or across the Tasman. I took a Dash 8 to
> Coffs Harbour
> > the other week - that was fun!
> >
> > What are the dates Jeff?
> >
> > PS. I have received several abstracts for our little shindig.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
> > > bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Lynch
> > > Sent: Monday, 19 October 2009 9:43 AM
> > > To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
> > > Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Seminar in Amon Hen
> > >
> >  > Weather report today is to do with a choice (likely) of a
> > > method ...err
> > > flying to Vienna by moi......
> > > Mikhail is probably already is aware of the 777 200 and
> 3000 LR
> > > series of
> > > Boeing aircraft.....If I do choose Qatar Airlines to Vienna
> via
> > > Doha....I
> > > will travel on the 777 200 LR.....for the uniniated
> LR .......
> > > but may be
> > > wrong that the 200 series is the second longest passenger
> plane
> > > going after
> > > the 300......it's a quick and (hopefully) short changeover
> > > trip....
> > > All the way to Doha....(from Melbourne) non....
> stop....smaller
> > > craft to
> > > Wien.
> > > Meaning one stop to Europe....mit only 2 hours in between
> at
> > > Doha.
> > > As I did on the last 2 trips....Berlin(Germany etc) and
> then
> > > North
> > > Wales......Beddgelert I am going on business class....Yum!
> > > If it does interest you (one bit) ...google Qtar
> > > Airlines....lock onto
> > > 7772000 LR...see short filmic presentations...
> > > jeff
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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Sun Oct 25 11:20:36 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:20:36 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] happy 594th anniversary...
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What a goodly shape and condition of an outline of connected words dear Ted
jeff

On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:

> ... of the battle of Agincourt.
>
> This day is call'd the feast of Crispian.
> He that outlives this day, and comes safe home,
> Will stand a tip-toe when this day is nam'd,
> And rouse him at the name of Crispian.
> He that shall live this day, and see old age,
> Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours,
> And say 'To-morrow is Saint Crispian.'
> Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars,
> And say 'These wounds I had on Crispian's day.'
> Old men forget; yet all shall be forgot,
> But he'll remember, with advantages,
> What feats he did that day. Then shall our names,
> Familiar in his mouth as household words-
> Harry the King, Bedford and Exeter,
> Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester-
> Be in their flowing cups freshly rememb'red.
> This story shall the good man teach his son;
> And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by,
> >From this day to the ending of the world,
> But we in it shall be remembered-
> We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
> For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
> Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
> This day shall gentle his condition;
> And gentlemen in England now-a-bed
> Shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here,
> And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
> That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.
>
> - Shakespeare: King Henry the Fifth
>
>
>
>
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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Sun Oct 25 11:31:55 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:31:55 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Seminar in Amon Hen
In-Reply-To: <6F333A83ED154CF89047FD7B5BD25A92@Michael>
References: <ecc18000910201454l5717ebbcqce00912844d60371@mail.gmail.com>
	<6F333A83ED154CF89047FD7B5BD25A92@Michael>
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Too right (about Tony ...I mean Mikey) he is good!
Ta for the Dash 8....
looks v cool too
jeff

On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au> wrote:

> Jeff,
>
> Here's a Dash-8. I think they seat around 30 or so people, maybe more.
>
>
>
> I checked out Tony's works. You wouldn't believe that its all done with
> spray-paint!
>
> Michael
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
> > bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Lynch
>  > Sent: Wednesday, 21 October 2009 8:54 AM
> > To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
> > Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Seminar in Amon Hen
> >
> > Yeah well (you Only live once) ...could be that I AM WRONG
> > HERE.....but I
> > will really look forward to the 777.2000 LR....
> > Seen the Odyssey Page...congrats to David....Tony(artist will
> > see his stuff
> > up)...sure it may inspire the lad.
> > Dash 8..please explane...ex...plane
> > jeff
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Michael Kennedy
> > <mlk at activ8.net.au> wrote:
> >
> > > Travelling in style! I'm more familiar with the smaller
> > planes as most of
> > > my
> > > trips are domestic or across the Tasman. I took a Dash 8 to
> > Coffs Harbour
> > > the other week - that was fun!
> > >
> > > What are the dates Jeff?
> > >
> > > PS. I have received several abstracts for our little shindig.
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
> > > > bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Lynch
> > > > Sent: Monday, 19 October 2009 9:43 AM
> > > > To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
> > > > Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Seminar in Amon Hen
> > > >
> > >  > Weather report today is to do with a choice (likely) of a
> > > > method ...err
> > > > flying to Vienna by moi......
> > > > Mikhail is probably already is aware of the 777 200 and
> > 3000 LR
> > > > series of
> > > > Boeing aircraft.....If I do choose Qatar Airlines to Vienna
> > via
> > > > Doha....I
> > > > will travel on the 777 200 LR.....for the uniniated
> > LR .......
> > > > but may be
> > > > wrong that the 200 series is the second longest passenger
> > plane
> > > > going after
> > > > the 300......it's a quick and (hopefully) short changeover
> > > > trip....
> > > > All the way to Doha....(from Melbourne) non....
> > stop....smaller
> > > > craft to
> > > > Wien.
> > > > Meaning one stop to Europe....mit only 2 hours in between
> > at
> > > > Doha.
> > > > As I did on the last 2 trips....Berlin(Germany etc) and
> > then
> > > > North
> > > > Wales......Beddgelert I am going on business class....Yum!
> > > > If it does interest you (one bit) ...google Qtar
> > > > Airlines....lock onto
> > > > 7772000 LR...see short filmic presentations...
> > > > jeff
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From krenon at y7mail.com  Sun Oct 25 11:47:49 2009
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 17:47:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TolHarndor] happy 594th anniversary...
In-Reply-To: <ecc18000910241720k279f7455s80864081ef0aa1ad@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <28375.36974.qm@web110216.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

One of the best known speeches that Shakespeare put into the mouth of a former real person.

Hopefully you will in due course hear a bit more of that play quoted by me (Hi Michael).

- Ted

--- On Sun, 25/10/09, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:

What a goodly shape and condition of an outline of connected words dear Ted
jeff




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From dragon at roots-boots.net  Sun Oct 25 13:47:31 2009
From: dragon at roots-boots.net (Marayong)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 13:47:31 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Seminar in Amon Hen
In-Reply-To: <6F333A83ED154CF89047FD7B5BD25A92@Michael>
References: <6F333A83ED154CF89047FD7B5BD25A92@Michael>
Message-ID: <4AE3BC43.3060902@roots-boots.net>

Michael Kennedy wrote:
>  
> I checked out Tony's works. You wouldn't believe that its all done with
> spray-paint! 

Yes, quite good. I saw a chap doing the same medium on the street when I 
went to Melba last year. Quite impressive .. and quick! I guess spray 
paint artists have to be quick ... at least those learning their art in 
a less than legal way. :)

cheers,
David
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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Mon Oct 26 08:48:50 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 08:48:50 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] happy 594th anniversary...
In-Reply-To: <28375.36974.qm@web110216.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <ecc18000910241720k279f7455s80864081ef0aa1ad@mail.gmail.com>
	<28375.36974.qm@web110216.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <ecc18000910251448w32cc723cyad0cd9f5fb3afe3b@mail.gmail.com>

Ah yes a speech by Edward the seventeenth......aka  (Edwin) the Ready
....excuse me but your use of the phrase former real person does intrigue
me....not that it does not ring a bell.
Former person..mkiight be fictional I take it.
No doubt you would not be satisfied with the word person (alone) for similar
reasonss...raaises the question is a fictional person a person?
Yup..might be in ya head..
but not a person still (I think.)
jeff
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:

> One of the best known speeches that Shakespeare put into the mouth of a
> former real person.
>
> Hopefully you will in due course hear a bit more of that play quoted by me
> (Hi Michael).
>
> - Ted
>
> --- On Sun, 25/10/09, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> What a goodly shape and condition of an outline of connected words dear Ted
> jeff
>
>
>
>
>
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From krenon at y7mail.com  Mon Oct 26 09:08:55 2009
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:08:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TolHarndor] happy 594th anniversary...
In-Reply-To: <ecc18000910251448w32cc723cyad0cd9f5fb3afe3b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <17378.87012.qm@web110201.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I mean that Henry the Fifth, like Richards the Second and Third, Henrys the Fourth, Sixth and Eighth, etc but unlike Othello, Prospero, Bottom the Weaver and others of Shakespeare's characters which were purely invented by him or perhaps adapted from real characters.

--- On Mon, 26/10/09, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:

Ah yes a speech by Edward the seventeenth......aka? (Edwin) the Ready
....excuse me but your use of the phrase former real person does intrigue
me....not that it does not ring a bell.
Former person..mkiight be fictional I take it.
No doubt you would not be satisfied with the word person (alone) for similar
reasonss...raaises the question is a fictional person a person?
Yup..might be in ya head..
but not a person still (I think.)
jeff




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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Thu Oct 29 09:43:48 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 09:43:48 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Seminar in Amon Hen
In-Reply-To: <6F333A83ED154CF89047FD7B5BD25A92@Michael>
References: <ecc18000910201454l5717ebbcqce00912844d60371@mail.gmail.com>
	<6F333A83ED154CF89047FD7B5BD25A92@Michael>
Message-ID: <ecc18000910281543p7d71ff22vc728183c02f747d0@mail.gmail.com>

>
> Hey Mikhail!,

If you get on a Dash 8 near or on Christmas....you will be dashing through
the snow.
boom, boom peutetre...
Showed Tony his artwork on David's show...
Hey and Davy....... I stuffed up his name in the end after trying to correct
it ...
Tony's name is Tony Galdamez.......
Can you alter it again?
Mia culpa..
love Jeff`

From mlk at activ8.net.au  Thu Oct 29 17:51:26 2009
From: mlk at activ8.net.au (Michael Kennedy)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:51:26 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Seminar in Amon Hen
In-Reply-To: <ecc18000910281543p7d71ff22vc728183c02f747d0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D3E3BB24DCA84D4A9A91E16B61D8771B@Michael>

Boom boom! I hope it doesn't ;-)

I will be on a plane on the 27th flying down to Tassie for a week
though...not a dash 8. 




> -----Original Message-----
> From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
> bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Lynch
> Sent: Thursday, 29 October 2009 9:44 AM
> To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Seminar in Amon Hen
> 
> >
> > Hey Mikhail!,
> 
> If you get on a Dash 8 near or on Christmas....you will be
> dashing through
> the snow.
> boom, boom peutetre...
> Showed Tony his artwork on David's show...
> Hey and Davy....... I stuffed up his name in the end after
> trying to correct
> it ...
> Tony's name is Tony Galdamez.......
> Can you alter it again?
> Mia culpa..
> love Jeff`
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From krenon at y7mail.com  Fri Oct 30 07:55:52 2009
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:55:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Richard Harland - for FREE!
In-Reply-To: <D3E3BB24DCA84D4A9A91E16B61D8771B@Michael>
Message-ID: <793795.31771.qm@web110208.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Richard Harland wrote:


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>Just letting you know - I've made my cult gothic-bizarre novel THE? 
VICAR OF MORBING VYLE available as a FREE pdf download. Just go to my? 

author site at

www.richardharland.net

>and there it is on the home page.

>Hey, I'm really getting into doing free community services!

>So if you've ever wondered what this famous/notorious book is like ?
Cheers

Ted



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From dragon at roots-boots.net  Fri Oct 30 09:48:38 2009
From: dragon at roots-boots.net (David Powell)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 09:48:38 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Richard Harland - for FREE!
In-Reply-To: <793795.31771.qm@web110208.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <793795.31771.qm@web110208.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20091030094838.rqlikol00cs4ww44@roots-boots.net>

Quoting Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com>:

Soo ... the Vicar of Dibley .. oh, sorry .. wrong fictional vicar. :)

Anyone care to write a review &/or synopsis of the work? Morbing Vyle,  
that is, not Dibley ... tho' if someone wants to write an essay  
comparing the two ... I'd accept it for the eJournal. :)

cheers,
David


> Richard Harland wrote:
>
>
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> TT {font-family = "Courier New"}
> BLOCKQUOTE.CITE {border-left = solid 2}
> BLOCKQUOTE.CITE {padding-left = 0.5em}
> BLOCKQUOTE.CITE {margin-left = 0}
> BLOCKQUOTE.CITE {margin-top = 0.5em}
> SPAN.TABOOHEADER {display: none}
>> Just letting you know - I've made my cult gothic-bizarre novel THE
> VICAR OF MORBING VYLE available as a FREE pdf download. Just go to  
> my author site at
>
> www.richardharland.net
>
>> and there it is on the home page.
>
>> Hey, I'm really getting into doing free community services!
>
>> So if you've ever wondered what this famous/notorious book is like ?
> Cheers
>
> Ted
>
>
>
>         
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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Fri Oct 30 09:55:19 2009
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 09:55:19 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Richard Harland - for FREE!
In-Reply-To: <20091030094838.rqlikol00cs4ww44@roots-boots.net>
References: <793795.31771.qm@web110208.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<20091030094838.rqlikol00cs4ww44@roots-boots.net>
Message-ID: <ecc18000910291555h57fd93f9l9ba0434511a53ab@mail.gmail.com>

Nooo ....."The Vicar of Wakefield,' Davy!
Love Jeff

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 9:48 AM, David Powell <dragon at roots-boots.net>wrote:

> Quoting Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com>:
>
> Soo ... the Vicar of Dibley .. oh, sorry .. wrong fictional vicar. :)
>
> Anyone care to write a review &/or synopsis of the work? Morbing Vyle, that
> is, not Dibley ... tho' if someone wants to write an essay comparing the two
> ... I'd accept it for the eJournal. :)
>
> cheers,
> David
>
>
>
> Richard Harland wrote:
>>
>>
>> {font-family = "Arial"}
>> TT {font-family = "Courier New"}
>> BLOCKQUOTE.CITE {border-left = solid 2}
>> BLOCKQUOTE.CITE {padding-left = 0.5em}
>> BLOCKQUOTE.CITE {margin-left = 0}
>> BLOCKQUOTE.CITE {margin-top = 0.5em}
>> SPAN.TABOOHEADER {display: none}
>>
>>> Just letting you know - I've made my cult gothic-bizarre novel THE
>>>
>> VICAR OF MORBING VYLE available as a FREE pdf download. Just go to my
>> author site at
>>
>> www.richardharland.net
>>
>> and there it is on the home page.
>>>
>>
>> Hey, I'm really getting into doing free community services!
>>>
>>
>> So if you've ever wondered what this famous/notorious book is like ?
>>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Ted
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From dragon at roots-boots.net  Sat Oct 31 23:06:34 2009
From: dragon at roots-boots.net (Marayong)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 23:06:34 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Seminar in Amon Hen
In-Reply-To: <ecc18000910281543p7d71ff22vc728183c02f747d0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ecc18000910201454l5717ebbcqce00912844d60371@mail.gmail.com>	<6F333A83ED154CF89047FD7B5BD25A92@Michael>
	<ecc18000910281543p7d71ff22vc728183c02f747d0@mail.gmail.com>
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G'day Jeff,

Just confirming ... Tony's name is Galdamez and NOT Galda or Galdas?

cheers,
David
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