From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Sat Jan  2 09:39:07 2010
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 09:39:07 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Sauron should have opened Mount Doom to tourists
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Yeah Ted It is as you say...just that..... an oxymoron....but Sam G was a
bit of a moron.

Story bout two golfers..one was Sam G and the other a v fine golfer
indeed...and a great ladies man too.....'Harpo Marx.'
Harpo was winning and Sam did not like it.....why are you beating the crap
out of me..says Sam...I know it;s your F....ing putter you don't miss a
f...g putt.
Sam misses a putt himself and chucks his putter into the bushes...unknown to
Sam, Harpo gets his caddie to retrieve Sam's putter...and he putts with it!

I have to have that putter Harpo!

Harpo reluctantly hand over HIS putter for the sum of four hundred
bucks....Ok.....Sam still loses and then after the last hole Harpo says to
 Sam.....if I find any more putters in the bush I will sell them to you too
Sam...if you like!

love jeff

On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:

> Not into extreme volcano climbing, Jeff? :)
>
> What figure of speech would you call "include me out"? Strikes me as rather
> an oxymoron.
>
> --- On Thu, 31/12/09, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> As Sam Goldwyn said Ted....'Include me out!'
> jeff
>
>
>
>
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From krenon at y7mail.com  Sat Jan  2 09:54:51 2010
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 14:54:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Sauron should have opened Mount Doom to tourists
In-Reply-To: <ecc18001001011439m58a95b00h2ae2ef4ef587739b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <263496.55656.qm@web110202.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

<naive mode on>But Jeff, I didn't think that Harpo Marx ever spoke!<naive mode off>

Was Sam Goldwyn like Mae West? Lots of quotes, but did he ever *really* say it?

Oh! And to think I made a New Year resolution to post on topic!

--- On Sat, 2/1/10, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:

Yeah Ted It is as you say...just that..... an oxymoron....but Sam G was a
bit of a moron.

Story bout two golfers..one was Sam G and the other a v fine golfer
indeed...and a great ladies man too.....'Harpo Marx.'
Harpo was winning and Sam did not like it.....why are you beating the crap
out of me..says Sam...I know it;s your F....ing putter you don't miss a
f...g putt.
Sam misses a putt himself and chucks his putter into the bushes...unknown to
Sam, Harpo gets his caddie to retrieve Sam's putter...and he putts with it!

I have to have that putter Harpo!

Harpo reluctantly hand over HIS putter for the sum of four hundred
bucks....Ok.....Sam still loses and then after the last hole Harpo says to
 Sam.....if I find any more putters in the bush I will sell them to you too
Sam...if you like!

love jeff





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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Sat Jan  2 10:03:07 2010
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 10:03:07 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Sauron should have opened Mount Doom to tourists
In-Reply-To: <263496.55656.qm@web110202.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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	<263496.55656.qm@web110202.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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On topic here...Harpo was an actor Ted!...he acted dumb....ah but was so
bloody smart.
jeff

On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:

> <naive mode on>But Jeff, I didn't think that Harpo Marx ever spoke!<naive
> mode off>
>
> Was Sam Goldwyn like Mae West? Lots of quotes, but did he ever *really* say
> it?
>
> Oh! And to think I made a New Year resolution to post on topic!
>
> --- On Sat, 2/1/10, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Yeah Ted It is as you say...just that..... an oxymoron....but Sam G was a
> bit of a moron.
>
> Story bout two golfers..one was Sam G and the other a v fine golfer
> indeed...and a great ladies man too.....'Harpo Marx.'
> Harpo was winning and Sam did not like it.....why are you beating the crap
> out of me..says Sam...I know it;s your F....ing putter you don't miss a
> f...g putt.
> Sam misses a putt himself and chucks his putter into the bushes...unknown
> to
> Sam, Harpo gets his caddie to retrieve Sam's putter...and he putts with it!
>
> I have to have that putter Harpo!
>
> Harpo reluctantly hand over HIS putter for the sum of four hundred
> bucks....Ok.....Sam still loses and then after the last hole Harpo says to
>  Sam.....if I find any more putters in the bush I will sell them to you too
> Sam...if you like!
>
> love jeff
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From krenon at y7mail.com  Sat Jan  2 10:14:37 2010
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 15:14:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Sauron should have opened Mount Doom to tourists
In-Reply-To: <ecc18001001011503r1997336sfa0f3cd19f07282a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <701149.62106.qm@web110202.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Maybe that's why Oprah used his name for her company (yes, I know it's her name backwards but that may have been a coincidence).

--- On Sat, 2/1/10, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:

On topic here...Harpo was an actor Ted!...he acted dumb....ah but was so
bloody smart.
jeff





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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Sun Jan  3 10:42:34 2010
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 10:42:34 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Sauron should have opened Mount Doom to tourists
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	<701149.62106.qm@web110202.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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Full Marx for that Ted....

at last a Marx....without the consequences.

    Full Marx.
As I reckon, Harpo played heavenly harps
And Chico fingered on the keyboard's warps
Groucho wooed grand ladies on soft couches
And Zeppo was whisked away on a Zepplin?
Blame the damn scripting for not ryhming
And never and not my own terrible timing.
And there was one other idosyncratic brother,
But he might have been Beppo or Nappo or Ron
Or Toppo or Zappo or maybe Bon for the real and
The actual truth unscripted, is I just don't know.

And I'm glad that I don't too ...do you?

jeff lynch

On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:

> Maybe that's why Oprah used his name for her company (yes, I know it's her
> name backwards but that may have been a coincidence).
>
> --- On Sat, 2/1/10, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On topic here...Harpo was an actor Ted!...he acted dumb....ah but was so
> bloody smart.
> jeff
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From krenon at y7mail.com  Sun Jan  3 12:58:43 2010
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 17:58:43 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Sauron should have opened Mount Doom to tourists
In-Reply-To: <ecc18001001021542k5ffc0311ud6c1362b23062937@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <974148.18391.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hm ... at first I thought of Karl. The fifth brother was Gummo. Once on the Larry Niven list there was a reference to a Marx brother, and someone queried "Zippo"? Our fast thinking list master immediately shot back "Ah! Humor (he is an American) in a *lighter* vein!"

Lines in Don McLean's famous 1972 song "American Pie" were

And while Lenin read a book on Marx
The quartet practiced in the park
And we sang dirges in the dark
The day the music died.

Nobody seems quite sure whether that should be Lenin (Vlad) or Lennon (John), but if someone was reading while "the quartet (certainly referring to the Beatles) practiced" it surely couldn't have been Lennon.

Or could it?

--- On Sun, 3/1/10, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:

Full Marx for that Ted....

at last a Marx....without the consequences.

? ? Full Marx.
As I reckon, Harpo played heavenly harps
And Chico fingered on the keyboard's warps
Groucho wooed grand ladies on soft couches
And Zeppo was whisked away on a Zepplin?
Blame the damn scripting for not ryhming
And never and not my own terrible timing.
And there was one other idosyncratic brother,
But he might have been Beppo or Nappo or Ron
Or Toppo or Zappo or maybe Bon for the real and
The actual truth unscripted, is I just don't know.

And I'm glad that I don't too ...do you?

jeff lynch





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From dragon at roots-boots.net  Sun Jan  3 21:09:11 2010
From: dragon at roots-boots.net (Marayong)
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 21:09:11 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Sauron should have opened Mount Doom to tourists
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Edwin Scribner wrote:
> Lines in Don McLean's famous 1972 song "American Pie" were
>
> And while Lenin read a book on Marx
> The quartet practiced in the park
> And we sang dirges in the dark
> The day the music died.
>
> Nobody seems quite sure whether that should be Lenin (Vlad) or Lennon (John),
 > but if someone was reading while "the quartet (certainly referring to 
the Beatles)
 > practiced" it surely couldn't have been Lennon.

A quick look online and it seems a consistent interpretation that Lenin 
was indeed Lenin and not Lennon and the Quartet was the beatles.

I'll pass on groucho .. or the latest attempt to cash in on LotR by 
claiming Mt Doom has been found .. somewhere else.

cheers,
David
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From krenon at y7mail.com  Mon Jan  4 06:12:47 2010
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 11:12:47 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Sauron should have opened Mount Doom to tourists
In-Reply-To: <4B406CC7.8080007@roots-boots.net>
Message-ID: <154097.80943.qm@web110201.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Yes, but you'll notice in the Wikipedia entry that Don McLean dissociates himself from any interpretations of the lyrics.

--- On Sun, 3/1/10, Marayong <dragon at roots-boots.net> wrote:

Edwin Scribner wrote:
> Lines in Don McLean's famous 1972 song "American Pie" were
> 
> And while Lenin read a book on Marx
> The quartet practiced in the park
> And we sang dirges in the dark
> The day the music died.
> 
> Nobody seems quite sure whether that should be Lenin (Vlad) or Lennon (John),
> but if someone was reading while "the quartet (certainly referring to the Beatles)
> practiced" it surely couldn't have been Lennon.

A quick look online and it seems a consistent interpretation that Lenin was indeed Lenin and not Lennon and the Quartet was the beatles.

I'll pass on groucho .. or the latest attempt to cash in on LotR by claiming Mt Doom has been found .. somewhere else.

cheers,
David




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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Tue Jan  5 09:17:07 2010
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 09:17:07 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Sauron should have opened Mount Doom to tourists
In-Reply-To: <154097.80943.qm@web110201.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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Dear Ted,
I am into teasing you on off subject topics(yet again)
....What do you know about
 (a) Hildagarde Neff.?....und
(b)  Graham Greene and ' The Third Man'...he wrote the story!...und Vali!
jeff

From krenon at y7mail.com  Tue Jan  5 09:59:14 2010
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 14:59:14 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Sauron should have opened Mount Doom to tourists
In-Reply-To: <ecc18001001041417l42b1e90du5bedcc72feb2bc7b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <238730.97280.qm@web110202.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi Jeff. Firstly let me apologise to all my readers (:-|~) for forgetting to post re Tolkien's 118th birthday (last Sunday).

Do you mean "Hildegarde Knef"? I'd never heard of her but I looked her up on the Wikipedia - she was an actress and singer, so they say.

I've certainly heard of Graham Greene, and I've heard of "The Third Man", book and film. Iirc it ended with a chase through the sewers of Wien. A sinister character, his name was Harry Lime; the story began with his apparent death and ended with his real death.

If there's a connection between Knef and Greene I don't know what it is.

--- On Tue, 5/1/10, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Ted,
I am into teasing you on off subject topics(yet again)
....What do you know about
 (a) Hildagarde Neff.?....und
(b)? Graham Greene and ' The Third Man'...he wrote the story!...und Vali!
jeff




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From dragon at roots-boots.net  Tue Jan  5 11:31:29 2010
From: dragon at roots-boots.net (Marayong)
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2010 11:31:29 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Sauron should have opened Mount Doom to tourists
In-Reply-To: <238730.97280.qm@web110202.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <238730.97280.qm@web110202.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4B428861.6090506@roots-boots.net>

Edwin Scribner wrote:
>
> If there's a connection between Knef and Greene I don't know what it is.

Apart from the obvious German connection, that is? :)

cheers,
David
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From krenon at y7mail.com  Tue Jan  5 12:15:17 2010
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 17:15:17 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Sauron should have opened Mount Doom to tourists
In-Reply-To: <4B428861.6090506@roots-boots.net>
Message-ID: <632285.17318.qm@web110216.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

As you say - which no doubt has something to do with Jeff's mentioning it.

--- On Tue, 5/1/10, Marayong <dragon at roots-boots.net> wrote:

Edwin Scribner wrote:
> 
> If there's a connection between Knef and Greene I don't know what it is.

Apart from the obvious German connection, that is? :)

cheers,
David




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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Wed Jan  6 09:43:58 2010
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 09:43:58 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Sauron should have opened Mount Doom to tourists
In-Reply-To: <238730.97280.qm@web110202.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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No, no, no, no....yes....there is no connection Ted.
I need to know more that is all....I am chasing a copy of TTman right now.
love jeff

On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:

> Hi Jeff. Firstly let me apologise to all my readers (:-|~) for forgetting
> to post re Tolkien's 118th birthday (last Sunday).
>
> Do you mean "Hildegarde Knef"? I'd never heard of her but I looked her up
> on the Wikipedia - she was an actress and singer, so they say.
>
> I've certainly heard of Graham Greene, and I've heard of "The Third Man",
> book and film. Iirc it ended with a chase through the sewers of Wien. A
> sinister character, his name was Harry Lime; the story began with his
> apparent death and ended with his real death.
>
> If there's a connection between Knef and Greene I don't know what it is.
>
> --- On Tue, 5/1/10, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Ted,
> I am into teasing you on off subject topics(yet again)
> ....What do you know about
>  (a) Hildagarde Neff.?....und
> (b)  Graham Greene and ' The Third Man'...he wrote the story!...und Vali!
> jeff
>
>
>
>
>
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From krenon at y7mail.com  Wed Jan  6 11:02:38 2010
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 16:02:38 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Sauron should have opened Mount Doom to tourists
In-Reply-To: <ecc18001001051443s5b1c9046t4c34548b043ab942@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <840538.82408.qm@web110209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I think you'll find one. Glancing at Google it looks as if the Orson Welles movie has eclipsed the Graham Greene novel for popularity - or is that just a movies vs books thing.

--- On Wed, 6/1/10, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:

No, no, no, no....yes....there is no connection Ted.
I need to know more that is all....I am chasing a copy of TTman right now.
love jeff




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From dragon at roots-boots.net  Wed Jan  6 14:48:43 2010
From: dragon at roots-boots.net (Marayong)
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 14:48:43 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Sauron should have opened Mount Doom to tourists
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References: <840538.82408.qm@web110209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4B44081B.9050008@roots-boots.net>

Edwin Scribner wrote:
> I think you'll find one. Glancing at Google it looks as if the Orson
 > Welles movie has eclipsed the Graham Greene novel for popularity

However would one compare the popularity of a book vs a movie? I guess 
one could go by units sold .. how many copies of the book vs how many 
movie tix sold ... but that in no way accounts for those borrowing the 
book from the local library .. or getting their copy from a friend or 
second hand. Or those who watched the movie on tv ... IMO it'd just be 
impossible to compare the popularity of two such media.

cheers,
David
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From krenon at y7mail.com  Wed Jan  6 16:55:48 2010
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 21:55:48 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Sauron should have opened Mount Doom to tourists
In-Reply-To: <4B44081B.9050008@roots-boots.net>
Message-ID: <59926.44468.qm@web110206.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Some movies have eclipsed the book from which they derived (Gone With the Wind?) but I wasn't referring to money earned or we'd have to face the fact that Peter Jackson and his team eclipsed JRR. Perish the thought!

--- On Wed, 6/1/10, Marayong <dragon at roots-boots.net> wrote:

Edwin Scribner wrote:
> I think you'll find one. Glancing at Google it looks as if the Orson
> Welles movie has eclipsed the Graham Greene novel for popularity

However would one compare the popularity of a book vs a movie? I guess one could go by units sold .. how many copies of the book vs how many movie tix sold ... but that in no way accounts for those borrowing the book from the local library .. or getting their copy from a friend or second hand. Or those who watched the movie on tv ... IMO it'd just be impossible to compare the popularity of two such media.





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From mlk at activ8.net.au  Wed Jan  6 18:31:02 2010
From: mlk at activ8.net.au (Michael Kennedy)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 18:31:02 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Sauron should have opened Mount Doom to tourists
In-Reply-To: <59926.44468.qm@web110206.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AA1D49A7386D40AD982EB5C73A88E1C3@Michael>

Hi All,

I'm back from the Apple Isle! I have no doubt that I could live well down
there. Plenty of cherries (and I mean 'real' cherries), raspberries, cheese
and even Tassie chocolates. What more could one want? (Rhetorical). ;-)

Jeff, I am thoroughly enjoying Mr. Duggan. Do you have more of him? If not I
will seek some of his others and then pass them on to you I you like.

Speaking of PJ, we are watching one of his recent movies tonight on Blue Ray
- District 9. I have no expectations and very little idea of what it's
about, suffice to say it's SF. I'll let you know later. Maybe it's not
watching TV for a couple of weeks (besides the odd bit of cricket) but I'm
also off to see the much vaunted Avatar on Saturday. Anyone else seen it?

Michael

> -----Original Message-----
> From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
> bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Edwin Scribner
> Sent: Wednesday, 6 January 2010 4:56 PM
> To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Sauron should have opened Mount Doom
> to tourists
> 
> Some movies have eclipsed the book from which they derived
> (Gone With the Wind?) but I wasn't referring to money earned or
> we'd have to face the fact that Peter Jackson and his team
> eclipsed JRR. Perish the thought!
> 
> --- On Wed, 6/1/10, Marayong <dragon at roots-boots.net> wrote:
> 
> Edwin Scribner wrote:
> > I think you'll find one. Glancing at Google it looks as if
> the Orson
> > Welles movie has eclipsed the Graham Greene novel for
> popularity
> 
> However would one compare the popularity of a book vs a movie?
> I guess one could go by units sold .. how many copies of the
> book vs how many movie tix sold ... but that in no way accounts
> for those borrowing the book from the local library .. or
> getting their copy from a friend or second hand. Or those who
> watched the movie on tv ... IMO it'd just be impossible to
> compare the popularity of two such media.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From dragon at roots-boots.net  Wed Jan  6 18:54:26 2010
From: dragon at roots-boots.net (Marayong)
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 18:54:26 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Sauron should have opened Mount Doom to tourists
In-Reply-To: <AA1D49A7386D40AD982EB5C73A88E1C3@Michael>
References: <AA1D49A7386D40AD982EB5C73A88E1C3@Michael>
Message-ID: <4B4441B2.8030804@roots-boots.net>

Avatar?

Seeing it tomorrow arvo ... hopefully the 3d glasses work with my eyes. 
Last time I saw a 3d movie it was a total write off and I had to watch 
it, poorly, in 2d sans glasses. :(

Freebie tix, so not a big loss if I can't see much.

cheers,
David


Michael Kennedy wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I'm back from the Apple Isle! I have no doubt that I could live well down
> there. Plenty of cherries (and I mean 'real' cherries), raspberries, cheese
> and even Tassie chocolates. What more could one want? (Rhetorical). ;-)
>
> Jeff, I am thoroughly enjoying Mr. Duggan. Do you have more of him? If not I
> will seek some of his others and then pass them on to you I you like.
>
> Speaking of PJ, we are watching one of his recent movies tonight on Blue Ray
> - District 9. I have no expectations and very little idea of what it's
> about, suffice to say it's SF. I'll let you know later. Maybe it's not
> watching TV for a couple of weeks (besides the odd bit of cricket) but I'm
> also off to see the much vaunted Avatar on Saturday. Anyone else seen it?
>
> Michael
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
>> bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Edwin Scribner
>> Sent: Wednesday, 6 January 2010 4:56 PM
>> To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
>> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Sauron should have opened Mount Doom
>> to tourists
>>
>> Some movies have eclipsed the book from which they derived
>> (Gone With the Wind?) but I wasn't referring to money earned or
>> we'd have to face the fact that Peter Jackson and his team
>> eclipsed JRR. Perish the thought!
>>
>> --- On Wed, 6/1/10, Marayong<dragon at roots-boots.net>  wrote:
>>
>> Edwin Scribner wrote:
>>> I think you'll find one. Glancing at Google it looks as if
>> the Orson
>>> Welles movie has eclipsed the Graham Greene novel for
>> popularity
>>
>> However would one compare the popularity of a book vs a movie?
>> I guess one could go by units sold .. how many copies of the
>> book vs how many movie tix sold ... but that in no way accounts
>> for those borrowing the book from the local library .. or
>> getting their copy from a friend or second hand. Or those who
>> watched the movie on tv ... IMO it'd just be impossible to
>> compare the popularity of two such media.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________________________
>> ___________________
>> See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now:
>> http://au.movies.yahoo.com/session-times/
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>> List mailing list
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>
>
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From mlk at activ8.net.au  Wed Jan  6 19:19:28 2010
From: mlk at activ8.net.au (Michael Kennedy)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 19:19:28 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Sauron should have opened Mount Doom to tourists
In-Reply-To: <4B4441B2.8030804@roots-boots.net>
Message-ID: <54B4E35F75E647D9BD6FF9772D4BEBE0@Michael>

Me too - I mean the freebie tickets. 

I was wondering whether I'd be better off wearing my contact lenses rather
than my fetching spectacles. What say you?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
> bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Marayong
> Sent: Wednesday, 6 January 2010 6:54 PM
> To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Sauron should have opened Mount Doom
> to tourists
> 
> Avatar?
> 
> Seeing it tomorrow arvo ... hopefully the 3d glasses work with
> my eyes.
> Last time I saw a 3d movie it was a total write off and I had
> to watch
> it, poorly, in 2d sans glasses. :(
> 
> Freebie tix, so not a big loss if I can't see much.
> 
> cheers,
> David
> 
> 
> Michael Kennedy wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I'm back from the Apple Isle! I have no doubt that I could
> live well down
> > there. Plenty of cherries (and I mean 'real' cherries),
> raspberries, cheese
> > and even Tassie chocolates. What more could one want?
> (Rhetorical). ;-)
> >
> > Jeff, I am thoroughly enjoying Mr. Duggan. Do you have more
> of him? If not I
> > will seek some of his others and then pass them on to you I
> you like.
> >
> > Speaking of PJ, we are watching one of his recent movies
> tonight on Blue Ray
> > - District 9. I have no expectations and very little idea of
> what it's
> > about, suffice to say it's SF. I'll let you know later. Maybe
> it's not
> > watching TV for a couple of weeks (besides the odd bit of
> cricket) but I'm
> > also off to see the much vaunted Avatar on Saturday. Anyone
> else seen it?
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
> >> bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Edwin Scribner
> >> Sent: Wednesday, 6 January 2010 4:56 PM
> >> To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
> >> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Sauron should have opened Mount
> Doom
> >> to tourists
> >>
> >> Some movies have eclipsed the book from which they derived
> >> (Gone With the Wind?) but I wasn't referring to money earned
> or
> >> we'd have to face the fact that Peter Jackson and his team
> >> eclipsed JRR. Perish the thought!
> >>
> >> --- On Wed, 6/1/10, Marayong<dragon at roots-boots.net>  wrote:
> >>
> >> Edwin Scribner wrote:
> >>> I think you'll find one. Glancing at Google it looks as if
> >> the Orson
> >>> Welles movie has eclipsed the Graham Greene novel for
> >> popularity
> >>
> >> However would one compare the popularity of a book vs a
> movie?
> >> I guess one could go by units sold .. how many copies of the
> >> book vs how many movie tix sold ... but that in no way
> accounts
> >> for those borrowing the book from the local library .. or
> >> getting their copy from a friend or second hand. Or those
> who
> >> watched the movie on tv ... IMO it'd just be impossible to
> >> compare the popularity of two such media.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> _______________________________________________________________
> >> ___________________
> >> See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now:
> >> http://au.movies.yahoo.com/session-times/
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> List mailing list
> >> List at tolharndor.org
> >> http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org
> >
> >
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> >
> 
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> more!
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> The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for
> it
>   to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose
> its
>            own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies
> 
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From dragon at roots-boots.net  Wed Jan  6 20:12:52 2010
From: dragon at roots-boots.net (Marayong)
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 20:12:52 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Sauron should have opened Mount Doom to tourists
In-Reply-To: <54B4E35F75E647D9BD6FF9772D4BEBE0@Michael>
References: <54B4E35F75E647D9BD6FF9772D4BEBE0@Michael>
Message-ID: <4B445414.6080507@roots-boots.net>

Michael Kennedy wrote:
> Me too - I mean the freebie tickets.
>
> I was wondering whether I'd be better off wearing my contact lenses rather
> than my fetching spectacles. What say you?

I'd recommend the contacts.

cheers,
David


>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
>> bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Marayong
>> Sent: Wednesday, 6 January 2010 6:54 PM
>> To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
>> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Sauron should have opened Mount Doom
>> to tourists
>>
>> Avatar?
>>
>> Seeing it tomorrow arvo ... hopefully the 3d glasses work with
>> my eyes.
>> Last time I saw a 3d movie it was a total write off and I had
>> to watch
>> it, poorly, in 2d sans glasses. :(
>>
>> Freebie tix, so not a big loss if I can't see much.
>>
>> cheers,
>> David
>>
>>
>> Michael Kennedy wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I'm back from the Apple Isle! I have no doubt that I could
>> live well down
>>> there. Plenty of cherries (and I mean 'real' cherries),
>> raspberries, cheese
>>> and even Tassie chocolates. What more could one want?
>> (Rhetorical). ;-)
>>>
>>> Jeff, I am thoroughly enjoying Mr. Duggan. Do you have more
>> of him? If not I
>>> will seek some of his others and then pass them on to you I
>> you like.
>>>
>>> Speaking of PJ, we are watching one of his recent movies
>> tonight on Blue Ray
>>> - District 9. I have no expectations and very little idea of
>> what it's
>>> about, suffice to say it's SF. I'll let you know later. Maybe
>> it's not
>>> watching TV for a couple of weeks (besides the odd bit of
>> cricket) but I'm
>>> also off to see the much vaunted Avatar on Saturday. Anyone
>> else seen it?
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
>>>> bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Edwin Scribner
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 6 January 2010 4:56 PM
>>>> To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
>>>> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Sauron should have opened Mount
>> Doom
>>>> to tourists
>>>>
>>>> Some movies have eclipsed the book from which they derived
>>>> (Gone With the Wind?) but I wasn't referring to money earned
>> or
>>>> we'd have to face the fact that Peter Jackson and his team
>>>> eclipsed JRR. Perish the thought!
>>>>
>>>> --- On Wed, 6/1/10, Marayong<dragon at roots-boots.net>   wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Edwin Scribner wrote:
>>>>> I think you'll find one. Glancing at Google it looks as if
>>>> the Orson
>>>>> Welles movie has eclipsed the Graham Greene novel for
>>>> popularity
>>>>
>>>> However would one compare the popularity of a book vs a
>> movie?
>>>> I guess one could go by units sold .. how many copies of the
>>>> book vs how many movie tix sold ... but that in no way
>> accounts
>>>> for those borrowing the book from the local library .. or
>>>> getting their copy from a friend or second hand. Or those
>> who
>>>> watched the movie on tv ... IMO it'd just be impossible to
>>>> compare the popularity of two such media.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>> _______________________________________________________________
>>>> ___________________
>>>> See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now:
>>>> http://au.movies.yahoo.com/session-times/
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> List mailing list
>>>> List at tolharndor.org
>>>> http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> List mailing list
>>> List at tolharndor.org
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>>>
>>
>> --
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>> more!
>>        http://roots-boots.net     mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net
>> The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for
>> it
>>    to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose
>> its
>>             own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies
>>
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  to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its
           own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies


From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Thu Jan  7 09:21:02 2010
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 09:21:02 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Sauron should have opened Mount Doom to tourists
In-Reply-To: <AA1D49A7386D40AD982EB5C73A88E1C3@Michael>
References: <59926.44468.qm@web110206.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<AA1D49A7386D40AD982EB5C73A88E1C3@Michael>
Message-ID: <ecc18001001061421i52b9e50dx9ad1c40852bed817@mail.gmail.com>

Reply....re Mr Duggan....I think I have ( a couple more) ...or....I did have
afore THE MOVE...... will check Michael.....you are most welcome....but also
hunt in second hand stores.

Jeff
PS just under 3 months afore I go to Wien.

On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I'm back from the Apple Isle! I have no doubt that I could live well down
> there. Plenty of cherries (and I mean 'real' cherries), raspberries, cheese
> and even Tassie chocolates. What more could one want? (Rhetorical). ;-)
>
> Jeff, I am thoroughly enjoying Mr. Duggan. Do you have more of him? If not
> I
> will seek some of his others and then pass them on to you I you like.
>
> Speaking of PJ, we are watching one of his recent movies tonight on Blue
> Ray
> - District 9. I have no expectations and very little idea of what it's
> about, suffice to say it's SF. I'll let you know later. Maybe it's not
> watching TV for a couple of weeks (besides the odd bit of cricket) but I'm
> also off to see the much vaunted Avatar on Saturday. Anyone else seen it?
>
> Michael
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
> > bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Edwin Scribner
> > Sent: Wednesday, 6 January 2010 4:56 PM
> > To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
> > Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Sauron should have opened Mount Doom
> > to tourists
> >
> > Some movies have eclipsed the book from which they derived
> > (Gone With the Wind?) but I wasn't referring to money earned or
> > we'd have to face the fact that Peter Jackson and his team
> > eclipsed JRR. Perish the thought!
> >
> > --- On Wed, 6/1/10, Marayong <dragon at roots-boots.net> wrote:
> >
> > Edwin Scribner wrote:
> > > I think you'll find one. Glancing at Google it looks as if
> > the Orson
> > > Welles movie has eclipsed the Graham Greene novel for
> > popularity
> >
> > However would one compare the popularity of a book vs a movie?
> > I guess one could go by units sold .. how many copies of the
> > book vs how many movie tix sold ... but that in no way accounts
> > for those borrowing the book from the local library .. or
> > getting their copy from a friend or second hand. Or those who
> > watched the movie on tv ... IMO it'd just be impossible to
> > compare the popularity of two such media.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________________________
> > ___________________
> > See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now:
> > http://au.movies.yahoo.com/session-times/
> > _______________________________________________
> > List mailing list
> > List at tolharndor.org
> > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org
>
>
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>

From krenon at y7mail.com  Thu Jan  7 11:03:22 2010
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 16:03:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TolHarndor]  Mainly for Jeff
In-Reply-To: <ecc18001001061421i52b9e50dx9ad1c40852bed817@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <810482.59453.qm@web110215.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

The following was posted to the Eidolist (Australian general SF mail list) by Bruce Gillespie, one of the best known people of the Melbourne sf community. I've never heard of this lady but I presume that Jeff has - probably lots.

- Ted

----------------------------------------------------

Val Eastwood (17 Aug 1927-10 December 2009) probably never knew of the 
existence of fandom, but she was an important influence on the early days of the 
Melbourne Science Fiction Group (as it was known right at the beginning, in the 
early 1950s). Race Mathews, in various articles, has described how the early 
members of the Melbourne Group met at a place called Val's Cafe. They were a 
group of teenage boys meeting in what their parents came to realise was the one 
public meeting place of gays in Melbourne in the early 1950s. I don't know how 
long the Group met at Val's, but it seems to have been parental pressure that 
forced them to move elsewhere for weekly meetings.
?
The Age obituary (6 January 2010) includes the following:
?
'Val Eastwood, a well-known figure in the bohemian demi-monde of 1950sx 
Melbourne, who experienced a second spell of fame after she gave an interview in 
1995 in which she discussed her life as a lesbian and an entrepreneur, has died 
of cancer in Geelong. She was 82 ...
?
She leased space in Swanston Street opposite the Town Hall, and opened a 
cafe, where her friends whiled away their time. Soon she had expanded over two 
floors; it was the first of many cafes that she operated over the years. It is 
the original Val's in Swanston Street in the early 1950s, with its blue carpet, 
mauve chairs, raffia lampshades, coloured globes, and a grand piano, that many 
remember fondly. Welsh rarebit, spaghetti and brewed coffee went with live music 
-- a trio during the week, a concert on Sunday nights, small plays and 
performances...
?
Above all, Val's was a haven, accommodating of its diverse clientele, from 
artists, dancers, actors and theatregoers, to political activists, bodgies and 
widgies and university students (especially after university authorities 
declared the place out of bounds). It was one of the few places that welcome gay 
women and 'camp' men as they were described at the time. By insisting that 
people had a right to be themselves and to relax with others of their kind, she 
flew in the face of social norms, and she was much loved for it.'
?
I wonder which category of weirdos SF fans of the early 1950s fell into? 






      __________________________________________________________________________________
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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Fri Jan  8 09:35:59 2010
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 09:35:59 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Mainly for Jeff
In-Reply-To: <810482.59453.qm@web110215.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <ecc18001001061421i52b9e50dx9ad1c40852bed817@mail.gmail.com>
	<810482.59453.qm@web110215.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <ecc18001001071435v69071c71g7fe6fe8fb26f79c@mail.gmail.com>

Yes Ted...I knew (of) Val's Place....but I was too busy being an Art Student
at both Prahan Tech and Melbourne Teacher's College to attempt to catch up
with the Gay crowd...tho' I seem to remember rthat I did have 2 distinct
offers.
It did seem that as they say of some racing horses.. I came into the
catergory (of)......Others preferred!

I still chase a skirt or two ( as I think you know,)........not so proud of
it...... but ..that is moi!

Be that as I may I did not personally know the distiquished cafe owner and
entertainer...wot ever she was..a fair bit I say.....too.

And then I went out into the bush and taught..after atime I came back to the
city and except for trips overseas... I stayed here.( in .Melbourne).
And........
Now back to the Marx....

(from the Age today...)
Which of the Marx brothers was the oldest...just out of the 3 most famous?
jeff
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:

> The following was posted to the Eidolist (Australian general SF mail list)
> by Bruce Gillespie, one of the best known people of the Melbourne sf
> community. I've never heard of this lady but I presume that Jeff has -
> probably lots.
>
> - Ted
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> Val Eastwood (17 Aug 1927-10 December 2009) probably never knew of the
> existence of fandom, but she was an important influence on the early days
> of the
> Melbourne Science Fiction Group (as it was known right at the beginning, in
> the
> early 1950s). Race Mathews, in various articles, has described how the
> early
> members of the Melbourne Group met at a place called Val's Cafe. They were
> a
> group of teenage boys meeting in what their parents came to realise was the
> one
> public meeting place of gays in Melbourne in the early 1950s. I don't know
> how
> long the Group met at Val's, but it seems to have been parental pressure
> that
> forced them to move elsewhere for weekly meetings.
>
> The Age obituary (6 January 2010) includes the following:
>
> 'Val Eastwood, a well-known figure in the bohemian demi-monde of 1950sx
> Melbourne, who experienced a second spell of fame after she gave an
> interview in
> 1995 in which she discussed her life as a lesbian and an entrepreneur, has
> died
> of cancer in Geelong. She was 82 ...
>
> She leased space in Swanston Street opposite the Town Hall, and opened a
> cafe, where her friends whiled away their time. Soon she had expanded over
> two
> floors; it was the first of many cafes that she operated over the years. It
> is
> the original Val's in Swanston Street in the early 1950s, with its blue
> carpet,
> mauve chairs, raffia lampshades, coloured globes, and a grand piano, that
> many
> remember fondly. Welsh rarebit, spaghetti and brewed coffee went with live
> music
> -- a trio during the week, a concert on Sunday nights, small plays and
> performances...
>
> Above all, Val's was a haven, accommodating of its diverse clientele, from
> artists, dancers, actors and theatregoers, to political activists, bodgies
> and
> widgies and university students (especially after university authorities
> declared the place out of bounds). It was one of the few places that
> welcome gay
> women and 'camp' men as they were described at the time. By insisting that
> people had a right to be themselves and to relax with others of their kind,
> she
> flew in the face of social norms, and she was much loved for it.'
>
> I wonder which category of weirdos SF fans of the early 1950s fell into?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  __________________________________________________________________________________
> See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now:
> http://au.movies.yahoo.com/session-times/
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From krenon at y7mail.com  Fri Jan  8 10:06:26 2010
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 15:06:26 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Mainly for Jeff
In-Reply-To: <ecc18001001071435v69071c71g7fe6fe8fb26f79c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <924491.61321.qm@web110213.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi Jeff,

I wrote to the Eidolist thanking Bruce for his post and questioning whether there was anything/anyone similar to Val in Sydney. Bruce replied that he'd heard from a sydneysider to the effect that there was someone, but Bruce was skeptical and suspected that the sydneysider was thinking of Val's place and confusing Melbourne with Sydney (though this allegation by itself doesn't mean there wasn't such a place in Sydney).

What's the difference between Melbourne and Sydney? I'm sure that natives of both cities can think up a variety of answers, usually containing a barb aimed at one or the other. I presume that David Williamson's play "Emerald City" expressed this in some way, but I've never seen it. 

The Marx Brothers: I would have looked up the answer even had I guessed first. My only guess was Groucho, Chico, Harpo based on what seemed to be the usual order of the names. However I know from the Wikipedia that it's Chico, Harpo, Groucho.

--- On Fri, 8/1/10, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:

Yes Ted...I knew (of) Val's Place....but I was too busy being an Art Student
at both Prahan Tech and Melbourne Teacher's College to attempt to catch up
with the Gay crowd...tho' I seem to remember rthat I did have 2 distinct
offers.
It did seem that as they say of some racing horses.. I came into the
catergory (of)......Others preferred!

I still chase a skirt or two ( as I think you know,)........not so proud of
it...... but ..that is moi!

Be that as I may I did not personally know the distiquished cafe owner and
entertainer...wot ever she was..a fair bit I say.....too.

And then I went out into the bush and taught..after atime I came back to the
city and except for trips overseas... I stayed here.( in .Melbourne).
And........
Now back to the Marx....

(from the Age today...)
Which of the Marx brothers was the oldest...just out of the 3 most famous?
jeff




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From dragon at roots-boots.net  Fri Jan  8 10:40:40 2010
From: dragon at roots-boots.net (Marayong)
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 10:40:40 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Mainly for Jeff
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Edwin Scribner wrote:
>
> What's the difference between Melbourne and Sydney? I'm sure that natives of both
 > cities can think up a variety of answers, usually containing a barb 
aimed at one
 > or the other. I presume that David Williamson's play "Emerald City" 
expressed this
 > in some way, but I've never seen it.

I live in Sydney .. sort of, but only very occasionally get to the 
"Sydney" that is usually meant when one refers to "Sydney" in such 
contexts. My memories of Melbourne in that context are probably wider 
and fresher. :)

Still, if I had to pick a word to describe the difference ... Melbourne 
is a lot more bohemian. At least in the heart of the city you could 
almost be excused for thinking you were in Europe .. sculptures 
everywhere, street performers, lots of narrow lanes full of cafes. None 
of this is found in Sydney. By contrast Sydney is, well, relatively 
sterile. In Melba they preserved much of the old city .. sticking up 
high rises in empty blocks and in the area south of the Yarra, in a 
reclaimed industrial area. In Sydney, in contrast, much of the old city 
was progressively demolished ... now the city centre is full of gleaming 
glass, concretre & metal edifices that reach for the sky .. with a 
scattering of older, heritage buildings in between. The opposite of 
Melba city where most are heritage style with a scattering of new towers.

I found that that difference in architecture was also reflected in the 
same difference in the people and the atmosphere. Sure, Sydney has it's 
areas of bohemia, but they are pockets found usually in inner city 
suburbs, not in the heart of the city.

Melba city is alive. Full of history, full of character. Sydney city is, 
well, a monument. A thoroughly modern city. It's history is not 
everywhere but carefully preserved in museums (buildings themselves can 
be museums), so as not to interfere too much with the pursuit of the 
glorious future. Melbourne is fantasy, Sydney is SciFi.

Mind you, I'm not saying one is better than the other. Just that they 
have very different natures, although I suspect anyone who knows me 
would be able to tell where my preference would lie.

And by the by, one of the many hats I wear is one of a historian.

cheers,
David
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From krenon at y7mail.com  Fri Jan  8 13:54:00 2010
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 18:54:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Mainly for Jeff
In-Reply-To: <4B4670F8.4060900@roots-boots.net>
Message-ID: <613408.67250.qm@web110204.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I'd use the term "arty" rather than "bohemian", but there's certainly a lot of truth in what you say. However I think that some progress is being made in the direction of keeping the past not just as past but as part of the commercial (and artistic) side of the city. The Queen Victoria Building is perhaps the best existing example, but the Old Mint and Barracks buildings in Macquarie Street are further examples, in that they offer venues for exhibitions, meetings and conventions as well as providing a place to see the past as museum exhibits. The Sydney Town Hall has undergone considerable restoration and it will soon (?) be open as a Town Hall rather than a museum. Other projects are, as I've heard, in the offing.

Is "Melba City" a particular term for some aspect of Melbourne? I would presume the arts, the name of course having derived from the epithet applied to "Australia's greatest diva" by the people of the city that financed the launch of her career. By analogy, Broken Hill could be called "Bronhill City", but who has Sydney got?

--- On Fri, 8/1/10, Marayong <dragon at roots-boots.net> wrote:

Edwin Scribner wrote:
> 
> What's the difference between Melbourne and Sydney? I'm sure that natives of both
> cities can think up a variety of answers, usually containing a barb aimed at one
> or the other. I presume that David Williamson's play "Emerald City" expressed this
> in some way, but I've never seen it.

I live in Sydney .. sort of, but only very occasionally get to the "Sydney" that is usually meant when one refers to "Sydney" in such contexts. My memories of Melbourne in that context are probably wider and fresher. :)

Still, if I had to pick a word to describe the difference ... Melbourne is a lot more bohemian. At least in the heart of the city you could almost be excused for thinking you were in Europe .. sculptures everywhere, street performers, lots of narrow lanes full of cafes. None of this is found in Sydney. By contrast Sydney is, well, relatively sterile. In Melba they preserved much of the old city .. sticking up high rises in empty blocks and in the area south of the Yarra, in a reclaimed industrial area. In Sydney, in contrast, much of the old city was progressively demolished ... now the city centre is full of gleaming glass, concretre & metal edifices that reach for the sky .. with a scattering of older, heritage buildings in between. The opposite of Melba city where most are heritage style with a scattering of new towers.

I found that that difference in architecture was also reflected in the same difference in the people and the atmosphere. Sure, Sydney has it's areas of bohemia, but they are pockets found usually in inner city suburbs, not in the heart of the city.

Melba city is alive. Full of history, full of character. Sydney city is, well, a monument. A thoroughly modern city. It's history is not everywhere but carefully preserved in museums (buildings themselves can be museums), so as not to interfere too much with the pursuit of the glorious future. Melbourne is fantasy, Sydney is SciFi.

Mind you, I'm not saying one is better than the other. Just that they have very different natures, although I suspect anyone who knows me would be able to tell where my preference would lie.

And by the by, one of the many hats I wear is one of a historian.





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From dragon at roots-boots.net  Fri Jan  8 16:58:38 2010
From: dragon at roots-boots.net (Marayong)
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 16:58:38 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Mainly for Jeff
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Edwin Scribner wrote:
> I'd use the term "arty" rather than "bohemian" ...

To a large extent they are interchangeable .. so you can use whichever 
you prefer. :)

 > but there's certainly a lot of truth in what you say. However I
 > think that some progress is being made in the direction of keeping
 > the past not just as past but as part of the commercial (and artistic)
 > side of the city. The Queen Victoria Building is perhaps the best
 > existing example, but the Old Mint and Barracks buildings ...

That's my point exactly ... in Sydney it's the exceptions that're arty & 
historic. In Melbourne it's the exceptions that're "modern".

> Is "Melba City" a particular term for some aspect of Melbourne?

No, I was just being lazy and abbreviating the full name. :)

cheers,
David
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           own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies


From krenon at y7mail.com  Fri Jan  8 17:32:17 2010
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 22:32:17 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Mainly for Jeff
In-Reply-To: <4B46C98E.2090805@roots-boots.net>
Message-ID: <705917.15698.qm@web110211.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

True enough, David. Sydney will never emulate Melbourne in that respect.

Melbourne has three more letters than Sydney, but Sydneysider has one more letter than Melburnian. Go figure.

"Oh the Sydneysider and the Melburnian should be friends ..." 

--- On Fri, 8/1/10, Marayong <dragon at roots-boots.net> wrote:

in Sydney it's the exceptions that're arty & historic. In Melbourne it's the exceptions that're "modern".

> Is "Melba City" a particular term for some aspect of Melbourne?

No, I was just being lazy and abbreviating the full name. :)





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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Sat Jan  9 08:50:06 2010
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 08:50:06 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Mainly for Jeff
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( the ) full Marx......Mmm.....you have to be on a roll to get this one too
Ted and the answer (a la Wikki) IS CHICO!

Re Bruce...at least his name was Bruce!
jeff



On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:

> Hi Jeff,
>
> I wrote to the Eidolist thanking Bruce for his post and questioning whether
> there was anything/anyone similar to Val in Sydney. Bruce replied that he'd
> heard from a sydneysider to the effect that there was someone, but Bruce was
> skeptical and suspected that the sydneysider was thinking of Val's place and
> confusing Melbourne with Sydney (though this allegation by itself doesn't
> mean there wasn't such a place in Sydney).
>
> What's the difference between Melbourne and Sydney? I'm sure that natives
> of both cities can think up a variety of answers, usually containing a barb
> aimed at one or the other. I presume that David Williamson's play "Emerald
> City" expressed this in some way, but I've never seen it.
>
> The Marx Brothers: I would have looked up the answer even had I guessed
> first. My only guess was Groucho, Chico, Harpo based on what seemed to be
> the usual order of the names. However I know from the Wikipedia that it's
> Chico, Harpo, Groucho.
>
> --- On Fri, 8/1/10, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Yes Ted...I knew (of) Val's Place....but I was too busy being an Art
> Student
> at both Prahan Tech and Melbourne Teacher's College to attempt to catch up
> with the Gay crowd...tho' I seem to remember rthat I did have 2 distinct
> offers.
> It did seem that as they say of some racing horses.. I came into the
> catergory (of)......Others preferred!
>
> I still chase a skirt or two ( as I think you know,)........not so proud of
> it...... but ..that is moi!
>
> Be that as I may I did not personally know the distiquished cafe owner and
> entertainer...wot ever she was..a fair bit I say.....too.
>
> And then I went out into the bush and taught..after atime I came back to
> the
> city and except for trips overseas... I stayed here.( in .Melbourne).
> And........
> Now back to the Marx....
>
> (from the Age today...)
> Which of the Marx brothers was the oldest...just out of the 3 most famous?
> jeff
>
>
>
>
>
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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Sat Jan  9 08:55:10 2010
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 08:55:10 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Mainly for Jeff
In-Reply-To: <705917.15698.qm@web110211.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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The answer is best found in the (origin) of the name..Melbourne...Lord
Melbourne....one of the wittiest. best looking and learned men ever to be PM
of England. TWICE!..Queen VIc swooned for him in a big way when v
young........he really was v good looking ..but the big problem in his
earlier (and married life) was of course Lady Melbourne...the
younger...called Caroline Lamb...see  Lord Byron....see....Lynch via David's
pet online mag
jeff

On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:

> True enough, David. Sydney will never emulate Melbourne in that respect.
>
> Melbourne has three more letters than Sydney, but Sydneysider has one more
> letter than Melburnian. Go figure.
>
> "Oh the Sydneysider and the Melburnian should be friends ..."
>
> --- On Fri, 8/1/10, Marayong <dragon at roots-boots.net> wrote:
>
> in Sydney it's the exceptions that're arty & historic. In Melbourne it's
> the exceptions that're "modern".
>
> > Is "Melba City" a particular term for some aspect of Melbourne?
>
> No, I was just being lazy and abbreviating the full name. :)
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From krenon at y7mail.com  Sat Jan  9 09:03:06 2010
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 14:03:06 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Mainly for Jeff
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At least? If anyone could be said to dominate sf fandom in Victoria it would, I think, be Bruce Gillespie. He is "The Big Bloke". Well over 6 ft tall and big with it, he's not the sort of person to pick on if you want to grab his wallet and run, but I've only ever found him in pleasant circumstances. He has won by far the most Ditmars (awards for various categories of Australian sf both pro and fannish), his tally being (I think) 20 (Edwina und ich have three for the Bullsheet).? Bruce has a pretty good knowledge of sf writers and fans in most countries. He is well respected in the USA and Great Britain, and? is looked upon as an important ambassador for Australia. Perhaps the least of his virtues is the name of Bruce but he has many others.

--- On Sat, 9/1/10, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:


( the ) full Marx......Mmm.....you have to be on a roll to get this one too
Ted and the answer (a la Wikki) IS CHICO!

Re Bruce...at least his name was Bruce!
jeff





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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Sun Jan 10 09:14:40 2010
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 09:14:40 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Mainly for Jeff
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Och ..ye dinna think  tha' I will say that Bruce is a Wally kinda name
Edwin....( Edwin?).
Och no, It's fine warriors name indeed ye ken.

The Bruce has been featured ..on SBS I think of late as well....I watch so
litlle Telly that tis a wonder at all that I copped it...

Well rest easy...I did get my hands on a copy of The THird Man...and the
short novel as well......
(by Greene)

I'm also watching Rebecca too..And then I will watch Spellbound.....
OK (film buffs) ....ou there.....what is the connection tween these 3
films...first between 2 of em and then the whole 3 of em?
jeff
On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:

> At least? If anyone could be said to dominate sf fandom in Victoria it
> would, I think, be Bruce Gillespie. He is "The Big Bloke". Well over 6 ft
> tall and big with it, he's not the sort of person to pick on if you want to
> grab his wallet and run, but I've only ever found him in pleasant
> circumstances. He has won by far the most Ditmars (awards for various
> categories of Australian sf both pro and fannish), his tally being (I think)
> 20 (Edwina und ich have three for the Bullsheet).  Bruce has a pretty good
> knowledge of sf writers and fans in most countries. He is well respected in
> the USA and Great Britain, and  is looked upon as an important ambassador
> for Australia. Perhaps the least of his virtues is the name of Bruce but he
> has many others.
>
> --- On Sat, 9/1/10, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> ( the ) full Marx......Mmm.....you have to be on a roll to get this one too
> Ted and the answer (a la Wikki) IS CHICO!
>
> Re Bruce...at least his name was Bruce!
> jeff
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Tue Jan 12 09:27:06 2010
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 09:27:06 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Sauron should have opened Mount Doom to tourists
In-Reply-To: <AA1D49A7386D40AD982EB5C73A88E1C3@Michael>
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> Mostly Michael......Re Mr Duggan.
>

I have discovered 2 more Duggans....hiding...I chastised them for their
behaviour and now I am wrapping them up....they are bound to where somebody
gives a FIG.
Enjoy them...M...( from Bond).
The one is a tale of THAT A'Beckett...
THe Other is (I think) told from a Praetorian guards point of view....(in
Rome...and about I guess).

Melbourne weather folk are about to report (last night) as the hottest night
ON RECORD.
Love Jeff

From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Wed Jan 13 09:05:29 2010
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 09:05:29 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] A possibly amusing picture with a bit of
	aTolkienelement
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>
> To Michael...the 2 new...old Duggans are parceled und I will (I hope) send
> them this day...again keep them.
>

I think that the palace guard's name (of the one novel) is Seajanus.....he
is ...or becomes the boss of the praetorian guard....maybe...from memory
...he becomes Emperor?

As I said...the other is about Saint Thomas A'Beckett..who has fascinated
many a writer.

Temp went down yest arvo....today is like a mild autumn day...(Dats
Melbourne).

jeff

From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Mon Jan 18 08:48:50 2010
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 08:48:50 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Sauron should have opened Mount Doom to tourists
In-Reply-To: <54B4E35F75E647D9BD6FF9772D4BEBE0@Michael>
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	<54B4E35F75E647D9BD6FF9772D4BEBE0@Michael>
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>  Dear M ,...
>
Holdup on posting the 2 books to you....now...will post on Wednesday next.
jeff
ps a return to autumn here in Melbourne.........

From krenon at y7mail.com  Mon Jan 18 19:52:21 2010
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 00:52:21 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Melburnian Man for CEO of NSW Writers' Centre
Message-ID: <746456.2355.qm@web110204.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

The NSW Writers' Centre's free weekly email bulletin proclaimed the following:
?
------------------------------------
?
As we get rolling into a new year here at the NSW Writers centre we welcome our new Director, David Ryding. David has freshly arrived from the outer Sydney suburb of Melbourne, where he was the Director of the highly successful Emerging Writers'
Festival, a festival championing the cause of emerging writers of all styles of writing, types of writing and all ages of writer.
(?http://www.emergingwritersfestival.org.au )

Throughout his career, David has consistently worked with new Australian writing and
Australian writers including stints as the Artistic Director of South Australian Theatre Company Mainstreet Theatre Company and Associate Director for Western Australian Children's Theatre Company Barking Gecko, as well as directing numerous Australian works for the stage across the country. For a short period of time David thought he was a writer and his credits include Sarenas Song, Hot Dogs and Littlest Bird, for Barking Gecko, The three for ABC Radio National, Myra for Australian Theatre for Young People's RE; MacBeth, Nesmith for the Blue Room and the screenplay Ant's Hills (winner of a
ScreenWest New screenwriters grant). He also wrote Shift Swapping (Audax Productions),
Chat ( Skimpy Theatre) and his short play The City of Lights was part of Dullsville ( Perth Theatre Company). David also works as a dramaturge, script assessor and has conducted Community Cultural Development programmes in Broome, Kalgoorlie and Denmark and the award winning Leonora Project, a two-year project in the Western Australian mining town of Leonora. In a former life he was a Youth Worker and ran Camps for the YMCA.
?
------------------------------------
?
... and that "outer Sydney suburb" bit was really in there - I did not make it up.
?
I don't know anything about him besides the above, and I don't know why the former director, Sue Boaden, left (or maybe was asked to leave). 
?
So ... the NSWWC gets a bit more blokey! I await developments with interest.
?

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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Tue Jan 19 10:01:13 2010
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 10:01:13 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Melburnian Man for CEO of NSW Writers' Centre
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Outer suburb Sydney....Koh!....more like the cultural (replacement) of a nea
commercial hub and failed city called Port Jackson.......rst Botany Bay
failed and then it's replacement...up for a third time I reckon.
Jeff

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:

> The NSW Writers' Centre's free weekly email bulletin proclaimed the
> following:
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> As we get rolling into a new year here at the NSW Writers centre we welcome
> our new Director, David Ryding. David has freshly arrived from the outer
> Sydney suburb of Melbourne, where he was the Director of the highly
> successful Emerging Writers'
> Festival, a festival championing the cause of emerging writers of all
> styles of writing, types of writing and all ages of writer.
> ( http://www.emergingwritersfestival.org.au )
>
> Throughout his career, David has consistently worked with new Australian
> writing and
> Australian writers including stints as the Artistic Director of South
> Australian Theatre Company Mainstreet Theatre Company and Associate Director
> for Western Australian Children's Theatre Company Barking Gecko, as well as
> directing numerous Australian works for the stage across the country. For a
> short period of time David thought he was a writer and his credits include
> Sarenas Song, Hot Dogs and Littlest Bird, for Barking Gecko, The three for
> ABC Radio National, Myra for Australian Theatre for Young People's RE;
> MacBeth, Nesmith for the Blue Room and the screenplay Ant's Hills (winner of
> a
> ScreenWest New screenwriters grant). He also wrote Shift Swapping (Audax
> Productions),
> Chat ( Skimpy Theatre) and his short play The City of Lights was part of
> Dullsville ( Perth Theatre Company). David also works as a dramaturge,
> script assessor and has conducted Community Cultural Development programmes
> in Broome, Kalgoorlie and Denmark and the award winning Leonora Project, a
> two-year project in the Western Australian mining town of Leonora. In a
> former life he was a Youth Worker and ran Camps for the YMCA.
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> ... and that "outer Sydney suburb" bit was really in there - I did not make
> it up.
>
> I don't know anything about him besides the above, and I don't know why the
> former director, Sue Boaden, left (or maybe was asked to leave).
>
> So ... the NSWWC gets a bit more blokey! I await developments with
> interest.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From krenon at y7mail.com  Thu Jan 21 19:22:08 2010
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 00:22:08 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Melburnian Man for CEO of NSW Writers' Centre
In-Reply-To: <ecc18001001181501wa2b4358lbf31866644682c00@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <349814.71131.qm@web110203.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

At least the mud is at the bottoms of our waterways :)

--- On Tue, 19/1/10, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:



Outer suburb Sydney....Koh!....more like the cultural (replacement) of a nea
commercial hub and failed city called Port Jackson.......rst Botany Bay
failed and then it's replacement...up for a third time I reckon.
Jeff




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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Fri Jan 22 09:34:34 2010
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 09:34:34 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Melburnian Man for CEO of NSW Writers' Centre
In-Reply-To: <349814.71131.qm@web110203.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <ecc18001001181501wa2b4358lbf31866644682c00@mail.gmail.com>
	<349814.71131.qm@web110203.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <ecc18001001211434q7a2db756x46fff9138b434329@mail.gmail.com>

Ah yes encore... trust young Ted to think of Flanders and Swann when pushed
for a riposte.



And Michael....your two A. Duggan books are finally posted....from West
Brunswick.

And now I too am thinking...can I get hold of a few more (cheap) copies of
same?

Probably I can......if I try.

It's threatening (here) to be glowering not flowering today...@ 36 degrees.
The weekend rushes towards me....und I've not a lot planned.
A funny thing happened to me on the way to the Courthouse the other day.'

When I arrived a game of chess awaited me....
in fact I played two of em.
Lost the first and won t'other....
Had been a long time since..I really Did enjoy them....

Looks like we have a couple of takers at the Courthouse.....Three games have
been recorded now.....four players in all so far!
The third game (so I was told)......... ended in a stalemate.was too
long....more chess reports to follow.........
und I am up and away....
jeff





On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:

> At least the mud is at the bottoms of our waterways :)
>
> --- On Tue, 19/1/10, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Outer suburb Sydney....Koh!....more like the cultural (replacement) of a
> nea
> commercial hub and failed city called Port Jackson.......rst Botany Bay
> failed and then it's replacement...up for a third time I reckon.
> Jeff
>
>
>
>
>
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From dragon at roots-boots.net  Fri Jan 22 17:19:16 2010
From: dragon at roots-boots.net (Marayong)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 17:19:16 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] new member
Message-ID: <4B594364.4000402@roots-boots.net>

G'day all,

We have a new member to the list .. I'll let her introduce herself. She 
found the list via the website and passed my 'interrogation' - in other 
words she replied to the confirmation request and mentioned the magic 
word "Tolkien".

Oh, her name is Maria Velardo.

cheers,
David
-- 
Line dancing, Genealogy, Travel, Photography, Local history & more!
      http://roots-boots.net     mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net
The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for it
  to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its
           own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies


From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Sat Jan 23 10:10:05 2010
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 10:10:05 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] new member
In-Reply-To: <4B594364.4000402@roots-boots.net>
References: <4B594364.4000402@roots-boots.net>
Message-ID: <ecc18001001221510ka3bb616q31d608c4ffdaa6a7@mail.gmail.com>

Maria, Dave just met a girl called Maria.
And suddenly that name........................

Hello Maria...from West Brunswick....

from Jeff.

On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Marayong <dragon at roots-boots.net> wrote:

> G'day all,
>
> We have a new member to the list .. I'll let her introduce herself. She
> found the list via the website and passed my 'interrogation' - in other
> words she replied to the confirmation request and mentioned the magic word
> "Tolkien".
>
> Oh, her name is Maria Velardo.
>
> cheers,
> David
> --
> Line dancing, Genealogy, Travel, Photography, Local history & more!
>     http://roots-boots.net     mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net
> The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for it
>  to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its
>          own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies
>
> _______________________________________________
> List mailing list
> List at tolharndor.org
> http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org
>

From krenon at y7mail.com  Sat Jan 23 12:24:22 2010
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 17:24:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TolHarndor] new member
In-Reply-To: <ecc18001001221510ka3bb616q31d608c4ffdaa6a7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <597668.91933.qm@web110215.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

... and how do you think that the west side of Brunswick compares with the west side of Manhattan? Or for that matter Puerto Rico? :)

--- On Sat, 23/1/10, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:



Maria, Dave just met a girl called Maria.
And suddenly that name........................

Hello Maria...from West Brunswick....



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From mlk at activ8.net.au  Sat Jan 23 18:17:44 2010
From: mlk at activ8.net.au (Michael Kennedy)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 18:17:44 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] new member
In-Reply-To: <4B594364.4000402@roots-boots.net>
References: <4B594364.4000402@roots-boots.net>
Message-ID: <20100123181744.cs1eqkulokgk4gso@webmail.activ8.net.au>



   Thanks David and welcome aboard Maria! I look forward to hearing  
about your interest in Tolkien.

   Apparently, the Tolkien Seminar has even beeen plugged through  
Twitter and Facebook. As I have a combined aversion and ignorance of  
these web-based communicators, I'm not exactly sure to what effect.  
I've only?received three submissions for talks so far, and one of  
those is from someone who us unlikely to attend as he's from overseas.  
Jill Thwaites is again keen to supply some artwork. I already have  
some images that would fit nicely with the theme.

   I'll keep you posted!

   Michael

   PS. I have limited connectivity at the moment as our satellite  
internet is on the blink until next week some time. I'll check in when  
I can.

   Quoting Marayong <dragon at roots-boots.net>:

> G'day all,
>
> We have a new member to the list .. I'll let her introduce herself. She
> found the list via the website and passed my 'interrogation' - in other
> words she replied to the confirmation request and mentioned the magic
> word "Tolkien".
>
> Oh, her name is Maria Velardo.
>
> cheers,
> David
> -- 
> Line dancing, Genealogy, Travel, Photography, Local history & more!
> ? ? ? http://roots-boots.net[1]? ? ?mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net
> The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for it
> ? to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its
> ? ? ? ? ? ?own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies
>
> _______________________________________________
> List mailing list
> List at tolharndor.org
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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Sun Jan 24 09:05:46 2010
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 09:05:46 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] new member
In-Reply-To: <597668.91933.qm@web110215.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <ecc18001001221510ka3bb616q31d608c4ffdaa6a7@mail.gmail.com>
	<597668.91933.qm@web110215.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <ecc18001001231405h3a358aa2p4feb2881967b50c1@mail.gmail.com>

....Ted ..I belong to the Jets!
Did I say (to Michael) that I had posted Duggans...think that I did....und
Jill Thwaites.......more Art!

This is gut...but you need a couple more lecture people...Is Ted one of the
three Mike?

jeff

re gut.....( I mean good Maria)....





On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:

> ... and how do you think that the west side of Brunswick compares with the
> west side of Manhattan? Or for that matter Puerto Rico? :)
>
> --- On Sat, 23/1/10, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Maria, Dave just met a girl called Maria.
> And suddenly that name........................
>
> Hello Maria...from West Brunswick....
>
>
>
>
>  __________________________________________________________________________________
> Yahoo!7: Catch-up on your favourite Channel 7 TV shows easily, legally, and
> for free at PLUS7. www.tv.yahoo.com.au/plus7
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>

From krenon at y7mail.com  Sun Jan 24 12:14:04 2010
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 17:14:04 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TolHarndor] new member
In-Reply-To: <ecc18001001231405h3a358aa2p4feb2881967b50c1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <219235.91252.qm@web110211.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

When we were in Cronulla we might have supported the Sharks, but in fact neither of us took much notice of Rugby League (the unfortunate Sharks have been in the comp since 1970 but have never managed to win a grand final, though they have been in a few).

In answer to the question you're asking Michael: yes, I am.

--- On Sun, 24/1/10, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:



....Ted ..I belong to the Jets!
Did I say (to Michael) that I had posted Duggans...think that I did....und
Jill Thwaites.......more Art!

This is gut...but you need a couple more lecture people...Is Ted one of the
three Mike?




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From dragon at roots-boots.net  Sun Jan 24 12:39:52 2010
From: dragon at roots-boots.net (Marayong)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 12:39:52 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] new member
In-Reply-To: <20100123181744.cs1eqkulokgk4gso@webmail.activ8.net.au>
References: <4B594364.4000402@roots-boots.net>
	<20100123181744.cs1eqkulokgk4gso@webmail.activ8.net.au>
Message-ID: <4B5BA4E8.30200@roots-boots.net>

Michael Kennedy wrote:
>
> Thanks David and welcome aboard Maria! I look forward to hearing about
> your interest in Tolkien.

 From her email address, I daresay we'll only hear from Maria during 
business hours since she subbed using a work email. By the time I got 
her confirmation and subbed her, it was after 5pm, friday. Presumably 
we'll hear from her on monday.

 > Apparently, the Tolkien Seminar has even beeen plugged through
 > Twitter and Facebook. As I have a combined aversion and ignorance
 > of these web-based communicators, I'm not exactly sure to what
 > effect.

Can't help there either ... I've never used either. I know about them in 
the technical sense, but that's it.

cheers,
David

  I've
> only received three submissions for talks so far, and one of those is
> from someone who us unlikely to attend as he's from overseas. Jill
> Thwaites is again keen to supply some artwork. I already have some
> images that would fit nicely with the theme.
>
> I'll keep you posted!
>
> Michael
>
> PS. I have limited connectivity at the moment as our satellite internet
> is on the blink until next week some time. I'll check in when I can.
>
> Quoting Marayong <dragon at roots-boots.net>:
>
>> G'day all,
>>
>> We have a new member to the list .. I'll let her introduce herself. She
>> found the list via the website and passed my 'interrogation' - in other
>> words she replied to the confirmation request and mentioned the magic
>> word "Tolkien".
>>
>> Oh, her name is Maria Velardo.
>>
>> cheers,
>> David
>> --
>> Line dancing, Genealogy, Travel, Photography, Local history & more!
>>       http://roots-boots.net[1]     mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net
>> The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for it
>>   to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its
>>            own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> List mailing list
>> List at tolharndor.org
>> http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org[2]
>
>
> Links:
> ------
> [1] http://roots-boots.net/
> [2] http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> List mailing list
> List at tolharndor.org
> http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org
>

-- 
Line dancing, Genealogy, Travel, Photography, Local history & more!
      http://roots-boots.net     mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net
The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for it
  to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its
           own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies


From graham.mcarthur at me.com  Sun Jan 24 13:29:02 2010
From: graham.mcarthur at me.com (Graham McArthur)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 12:59:02 +1030
Subject: [TolHarndor] new member
In-Reply-To: <4B5BA4E8.30200@roots-boots.net>
References: <4B594364.4000402@roots-boots.net>
	<20100123181744.cs1eqkulokgk4gso@webmail.activ8.net.au>
	<4B5BA4E8.30200@roots-boots.net>
Message-ID: <B92963A2-01CF-47CA-9F45-E7EB03E7FFF9@me.com>

Hi all,
Haven't posted for some time but I have been reading. I use facebook  
and Twitter. Haven't noticed anything on either. Do you know the user  
names for both sources?

My Twitter name is GrahamMcArthur if anyone wants make contact.
Twitter is a great and very fast resource for information and  
contacts. News travels on Twitter faster than anyother source.

Graham McArthur
via iPhone


On 24/01/2010, at 12:09 PM, Marayong <dragon at roots-boots.net> wrote:

> Michael Kennedy wrote:
>>
>> Thanks David and welcome aboard Maria! I look forward to hearing  
>> about
>> your interest in Tolkien.
>
> From her email address, I daresay we'll only hear from Maria during  
> business hours since she subbed using a work email. By the time I  
> got her confirmation and subbed her, it was after 5pm, friday.  
> Presumably we'll hear from her on monday.
>
> > Apparently, the Tolkien Seminar has even beeen plugged through
> > Twitter and Facebook. As I have a combined aversion and ignorance
> > of these web-based communicators, I'm not exactly sure to what
> > effect.
>
> Can't help there either ... I've never used either. I know about  
> them in the technical sense, but that's it.
>
> cheers,
> David
>
> I've
>> only received three submissions for talks so far, and one of those is
>> from someone who us unlikely to attend as he's from overseas. Jill
>> Thwaites is again keen to supply some artwork. I already have some
>> images that would fit nicely with the theme.
>>
>> I'll keep you posted!
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> PS. I have limited connectivity at the moment as our satellite  
>> internet
>> is on the blink until next week some time. I'll check in when I can.
>>
>> Quoting Marayong <dragon at roots-boots.net>:
>>
>>> G'day all,
>>>
>>> We have a new member to the list .. I'll let her introduce  
>>> herself. She
>>> found the list via the website and passed my 'interrogation' - in  
>>> other
>>> words she replied to the confirmation request and mentioned the  
>>> magic
>>> word "Tolkien".
>>>
>>> Oh, her name is Maria Velardo.
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> David
>>> --
>>> Line dancing, Genealogy, Travel, Photography, Local history & more!
>>>      http://roots-boots.net[1]     mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net
>>> The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for it
>>>  to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its
>>>           own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> List mailing list
>>> List at tolharndor.org
>>> http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org[2]
>>
>>
>> Links:
>> ------
>> [1] http://roots-boots.net/
>> [2] http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> List mailing list
>> List at tolharndor.org
>> http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org
>>
>
> -- 
> Line dancing, Genealogy, Travel, Photography, Local history & more!
>     http://roots-boots.net     mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net
> The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for it
> to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its
>          own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies
>
> _______________________________________________
> List mailing list
> List at tolharndor.org
> http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org


From maria.velardo at cba.com.au  Mon Jan 25 09:11:43 2010
From: maria.velardo at cba.com.au (Velardo, Maria)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 09:11:43 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] new member
In-Reply-To: <20100123181744.cs1eqkulokgk4gso@webmail.activ8.net.au>
References: <4B594364.4000402@roots-boots.net>
	<20100123181744.cs1eqkulokgk4gso@webmail.activ8.net.au>
Message-ID: <2288D3EE02BD85428977AF28DA10B355010964ED0D81@VAUNSW138.au.cbainet.com>

Hi Everyone,

Wow, this is the warmest welcome I've ever had on a mailing list! It's lovely to join.  I'm currently studying an Old English Literature course at uni and was inspired to find a local Tolkien group after a fellow student was telling me about her local group in Canada. I've had an interest in Tolkien since I first picked up The Hobbit when I was ten and then went on to read LOTR, The Silmarillion and some of Tolkien's essays on language.

I look forward to seeing how this seminar progresses.  I hope more of the suggested topics get picked up as they would make for some interesting lectures.


Cheers,
Maria




-----Original Message-----
From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Michael Kennedy
Sent: Saturday, 23 January 2010 6:18 PM
To: list at tolharndor.org
Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] new member



   Thanks David and welcome aboard Maria! I look forward to hearing
about your interest in Tolkien.

   Apparently, the Tolkien Seminar has even beeen plugged through
Twitter and Facebook. As I have a combined aversion and ignorance of
these web-based communicators, I'm not exactly sure to what effect.
I've only received three submissions for talks so far, and one of
those is from someone who us unlikely to attend as he's from overseas.
Jill Thwaites is again keen to supply some artwork. I already have
some images that would fit nicely with the theme.

   I'll keep you posted!

   Michael

   PS. I have limited connectivity at the moment as our satellite
internet is on the blink until next week some time. I'll check in when
I can.

   Quoting Marayong <dragon at roots-boots.net>:

> G'day all,
>
> We have a new member to the list .. I'll let her introduce herself. She
> found the list via the website and passed my 'interrogation' - in other
> words she replied to the confirmation request and mentioned the magic
> word "Tolkien".
>
> Oh, her name is Maria Velardo.
>
> cheers,
> David
> --
> Line dancing, Genealogy, Travel, Photography, Local history & more!
>       http://roots-boots.net[1]     mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net
> The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for it
>   to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its
>            own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies
>
> _______________________________________________
> List mailing list
> List at tolharndor.org
> http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org[2]


Links:
------
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From krenon at y7mail.com  Mon Jan 25 10:18:25 2010
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 15:18:25 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TolHarndor] new member
In-Reply-To: <2288D3EE02BD85428977AF28DA10B355010964ED0D81@VAUNSW138.au.cbainet.com>
Message-ID: <917431.62546.qm@web110203.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I hope this might be a wake-up call to those who haven't been writing here and to those who have been wildly off topic (that includes me). However, Maria, we would still be interested to?read about?any of your other interests, especially literary and related. I am on three other literary-oriented lists: Larry Niven, Terry Dowling and Tom Robbins - three (living)?authors who are wildly different from each other and from Tolkien.
?
- Edwin aka Eadwine (Saxon)?aka Herendil (Sindarin)?aka Krenon (Greek-derived)

--- On Mon, 25/1/10, Velardo, Maria <maria.velardo at cba.com.au> wrote:



Hi Everyone,

Wow, this is the warmest welcome I've ever had on a mailing list! It's lovely to join.? I'm currently studying an Old English Literature course at uni and was inspired to find a local Tolkien group after a fellow student was telling me about her local group in Canada. I've had an interest in Tolkien since I first picked up The Hobbit when I was ten and then went on to read LOTR, The Silmarillion and some of Tolkien's essays on language.

I look forward to seeing how this seminar progresses.? I hope more of the suggested topics get picked up as they would make for some interesting lectures.


Cheers,
Maria




      __________________________________________________________________________________
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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Mon Jan 25 10:28:13 2010
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 10:28:13 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] new member
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Jeff here again......Maria....
Take no notice of Ted at all/.....listen to less rational people....like
moi!
Where do you live (approximately will do.......)
...
Jeff ..from West brunswick..in Melbourne...please give us your ideas for the
seminar.new ideas err und  new blood is needed.
Seminar is to be held in Pascoe Vale....Melbourne.and yes we are nice err at
least I am..........
Jeff

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Velardo, Maria <maria.velardo at cba.com.au>wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> Wow, this is the warmest welcome I've ever had on a mailing list! It's
> lovely to join.  I'm currently studying an Old English Literature course at
> uni and was inspired to find a local Tolkien group after a fellow student
> was telling me about her local group in Canada. I've had an interest in
> Tolkien since I first picked up The Hobbit when I was ten and then went on
> to read LOTR, The Silmarillion and some of Tolkien's essays on language.
>
> I look forward to seeing how this seminar progresses.  I hope more of the
> suggested topics get picked up as they would make for some interesting
> lectures.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Maria
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-bounces at tolharndor.org] On
> Behalf Of Michael Kennedy
> Sent: Saturday, 23 January 2010 6:18 PM
> To: list at tolharndor.org
> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] new member
>
>
>
>   Thanks David and welcome aboard Maria! I look forward to hearing
> about your interest in Tolkien.
>
>   Apparently, the Tolkien Seminar has even beeen plugged through
> Twitter and Facebook. As I have a combined aversion and ignorance of
> these web-based communicators, I'm not exactly sure to what effect.
> I've only received three submissions for talks so far, and one of
> those is from someone who us unlikely to attend as he's from overseas.
> Jill Thwaites is again keen to supply some artwork. I already have
> some images that would fit nicely with the theme.
>
>   I'll keep you posted!
>
>   Michael
>
>   PS. I have limited connectivity at the moment as our satellite
> internet is on the blink until next week some time. I'll check in when
> I can.
>
>   Quoting Marayong <dragon at roots-boots.net>:
>
> > G'day all,
> >
> > We have a new member to the list .. I'll let her introduce herself. She
> > found the list via the website and passed my 'interrogation' - in other
> > words she replied to the confirmation request and mentioned the magic
> > word "Tolkien".
> >
> > Oh, her name is Maria Velardo.
> >
> > cheers,
> > David
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From krenon at y7mail.com  Mon Jan 25 10:51:00 2010
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 15:51:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TolHarndor] new member
In-Reply-To: <ecc18001001241528p27095850p637c1f9103e7005f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <99898.50562.qm@web110206.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

For less rational read more irrational. Jeff thinks he's nice which is, I dare say, a good start. However he will drop french and german words through his letters, presumably to give the impression that he's cosmopolitan. We engage in banter which is meant to be entirely flippant and not to be taken seriously, and David has better things to do (like genealogy and line dancing) than moderating this list and chucking out off topic posts. But if you think this list gets off topic, you should see the Larry Niven list!
?
Coming soon from my work station: Was Frodo a hero or a dupe? And what about Jessica Watson? What is the main driving force behind her ongoing battle with the elements??

--- On Mon, 25/1/10, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:



Jeff here again......Maria....
Take no notice of Ted at all/.....listen to less rational people....like
moi!
Where do you live (approximately will do.......)
...
Jeff ..from West brunswick..in Melbourne...please give us your ideas for the
seminar.new ideas err und? new blood is needed.
Seminar is to be held in Pascoe Vale....Melbourne.and yes we are nice err at
least I am..........
Jeff




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From dragon at roots-boots.net  Mon Jan 25 12:48:22 2010
From: dragon at roots-boots.net (Marayong)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 12:48:22 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] new member
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G'day Maria,

Welcome to the list (again).

Please do tell us a bit about yourself .. we know you're interested in 
Tolkien & his works, you're studying old english lit at uni and you work 
for the commonwealth bank, but that's it.

cheers,
David
-- 
Line dancing, Genealogy, Travel, Photography, Local history & more!
      http://roots-boots.net     mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net
The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for it
  to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its
           own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies


From mlk at activ8.net.au  Mon Jan 25 19:56:08 2010
From: mlk at activ8.net.au (Michael Kennedy)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:56:08 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] new member
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   Hey Jeff,

   Yes - Alfred Duggan's Leopards and Lilies has been digested. Do you  
have any more of his? I can send it right back to you if you want to  
pass on your postal address.

   As for the speakers, yes Ted is certainly one of them.

   Michael

   Quoting Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com>:

> When we were in Cronulla we might have supported the Sharks, but in?  
> fact neither of us took much notice of Rugby League (the  
> unfortunate? Sharks have been in the comp since 1970 but have never  
> managed to? win a grand final, though they have been in a few).
>
> In answer to the question you're asking Michael: yes, I am.
>
> --- On Sun, 24/1/10, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> ....Ted ..I belong to the Jets!
> Did I say (to Michael) that I had posted Duggans...think that I did....und
> Jill Thwaites.......more Art!
>
> This is gut...but you need a couple more lecture people...Is Ted one of the
> three Mike?
>
>
>
>
> ? ? ? ?  
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From krenon at y7mail.com  Mon Jan 25 20:08:49 2010
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 01:08:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TolHarndor] new member
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I tried to post this earlier today and it didn't arrive, at least it didn't arrive back with me so I assume it didn't arrive anywhere else.
?
Please disregard this if you have seen it earlier today.
?
Indeed youy might want to disregard it anyway.
?
---------------------------------------
?
For less rational read more irrational. Jeff thinks he's nice which is, I dare say, a good start. However he will drop french and german words through his letters, presumably to give the impression that he's cosmopolitan. We engage in banter which is meant to be entirely flippant and not to be taken seriously, and David has better things to do (like genealogy and line dancing) than moderating this list and chucking out off topic posts. But if you think this list gets off topic, you should see the Larry Niven list!
?
Coming soon from my work station: Was Frodo a hero or a dupe? And what about Jessica Watson? What is the main driving force behind her ongoing battle with the elements??
?

--- On Mon, 25/1/10, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:



Jeff here again......Maria....
Take no notice of Ted at all/.....listen to less rational people....like
moi!
Where do you live (approximately will do.......)
...
Jeff ..from West brunswick..in Melbourne...please give us your ideas for the
seminar.new ideas err und? new blood is needed.
Seminar is to be held in Pascoe Vale....Melbourne.and yes we are nice err at
least I am..........
Jeff




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From krenon at y7mail.com  Mon Jan 25 20:14:06 2010
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 01:14:06 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TolHarndor] new member
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Message-ID: <561916.26481.qm@web110207.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I just discovered that Yahoo7 in its wisdom had put both posts in the "spam" box. Please disregard one of them or, if you feel it's appropriate, both of them,
?
Cheers

Ted



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From krenon at y7mail.com  Tue Jan 26 09:26:01 2010
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 14:26:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Jessica
Message-ID: <144852.82145.qm@web110212.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I was going to talk about Jessica Watson, comparing her with Frodo in having taken on a Great Task not necessarily without a fair bit of egging on by a mentor (or two in the case of Jessica). However the game has just changed with her. On 23 January a yacht slipped its moorings in Marina Del Rey, California, headed around the world non stop. On board is one Abigail Sunderland and she is five months younger than Jessica. If they both complete their journeys, Jessica will hold the crown of "youngest round" for just a few months. You see the cleverness of Kay Cottee - she is the first woman to sail solo and non stop around the world, and nobody can take that away from her unless someone invents a time machine.
?
If a wizard or a parent comes to you, suggesting that you attempt something that's never before been done, think carefully. You should probably reject the suggestion.
?
Cheers
?
Ted/Herendil


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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Tue Jan 26 09:33:39 2010
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 09:33:39 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Jessica
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Yes Ted...a mysterious and well meaning wizard like yourself is to be hard
fought to keep at bay at times....your advice is probably good mais,.....

It proves too.......Don't Look Back.....Only sometimes'
jeff.

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:

> I was going to talk about Jessica Watson, comparing her with Frodo in
> having taken on a Great Task not necessarily without a fair bit of egging on
> by a mentor (or two in the case of Jessica). However the game has just
> changed with her. On 23 January a yacht slipped its moorings in Marina Del
> Rey, California, headed around the world non stop. On board is one Abigail
> Sunderland and she is five months younger than Jessica. If they both
> complete their journeys, Jessica will hold the crown of "youngest round" for
> just a few months. You see the cleverness of Kay Cottee - she is the first
> woman to sail solo and non stop around the world, and nobody can take that
> away from her unless someone invents a time machine.
>
> If a wizard or a parent comes to you, suggesting that you attempt something
> that's never before been done, think carefully. You should probably reject
> the suggestion.
>
> Cheers
>
> Ted/Herendil
>
>
>
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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Tue Jan 26 09:34:59 2010
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 09:34:59 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] new member
In-Reply-To: <99898.50562.qm@web110206.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <ecc18001001241528p27095850p637c1f9103e7005f@mail.gmail.com>
	<99898.50562.qm@web110206.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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All which Ted speaks of is true...vraiment!
jeff

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:

> For less rational read more irrational. Jeff thinks he's nice which is, I
> dare say, a good start. However he will drop french and german words through
> his letters, presumably to give the impression that he's cosmopolitan. We
> engage in banter which is meant to be entirely flippant and not to be taken
> seriously, and David has better things to do (like genealogy and line
> dancing) than moderating this list and chucking out off topic posts. But if
> you think this list gets off topic, you should see the Larry Niven list!
>
> Coming soon from my work station: Was Frodo a hero or a dupe? And what
> about Jessica Watson? What is the main driving force behind her ongoing
> battle with the elements?
>
> --- On Mon, 25/1/10, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Jeff here again......Maria....
> Take no notice of Ted at all/.....listen to less rational people....like
> moi!
> Where do you live (approximately will do.......)
> ...
> Jeff ..from West brunswick..in Melbourne...please give us your ideas for
> the
> seminar.new ideas err und  new blood is needed.
> Seminar is to be held in Pascoe Vale....Melbourne.and yes we are nice err
> at
> least I am..........
> Jeff
>
>
>
>
>
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From krenon at y7mail.com  Tue Jan 26 09:41:53 2010
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 14:41:53 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Jessica
In-Reply-To: <ecc18001001251433s214b4792g18ef1e4bc3779e83@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <618015.82313.qm@web110209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Better look in the mirror, Jeff. I just turned you into a toad. :)
?
[hrm...] now back to the topic...

--- On Tue, 26/1/10, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:



Yes Ted...a mysterious and well meaning wizard like yourself is to be hard
fought to keep at bay at times....your advice is probably good mais,.....

It proves too.......Don't Look Back.....Only sometimes'
jeff.




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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Wed Jan 27 09:38:35 2010
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 09:38:35 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Jessica
In-Reply-To: <618015.82313.qm@web110209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <ecc18001001251433s214b4792g18ef1e4bc3779e83@mail.gmail.com>
	<618015.82313.qm@web110209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <ecc18001001261438o144f3a0clfb76bc3029e52b5c@mail.gmail.com>

Don't Look Back only sometimes...and never in a mirror.

Advert from Jeffrey............see below
For Rent A Unit

Unit 2/78 Pearson Street, West Brunswick......(VIC) 3055.
To be let fully furnished

Terms approx 280 per week
Short term...up to 4 months
2 bedrooms in quiet situation...will accept students....any nat....

All mod cons....wash house wash machine, sep toilet, small garden at back.
Must agree to quit when Jeff Lynch returns from overseas...contact same
human....

phone ...(03) 93805070
or.....jeffreyblynch at gmail.com
Know a worth person or two?
pass it on (discreetly...pulease)
jeff..toadying ...for a change Ted.


On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:

> Better look in the mirror, Jeff. I just turned you into a toad. :)
>
> [hrm...] now back to the topic...
>
> --- On Tue, 26/1/10, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Yes Ted...a mysterious and well meaning wizard like yourself is to be hard
> fought to keep at bay at times....your advice is probably good mais,.....
>
> It proves too.......Don't Look Back.....Only sometimes'
> jeff.
>
>
>
>
>
>  __________________________________________________________________________________
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From krenon at y7mail.com  Wed Jan 27 09:50:58 2010
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 14:50:58 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Jessica
In-Reply-To: <ecc18001001261438o144f3a0clfb76bc3029e52b5c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <464943.73141.qm@web110202.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

How do you drive a car, Jeff? It must be hard to have to turn around every time you want to see behind you. :)
?

--- On Wed, 27/1/10, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:



Don't Look Back only sometimes...and never in a mirror.




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From mlk at activ8.net.au  Wed Jan 27 17:02:55 2010
From: mlk at activ8.net.au (Michael Kennedy)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 17:02:55 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Jessica
In-Reply-To: <ecc18001001261438o144f3a0clfb76bc3029e52b5c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ecc18001001251433s214b4792g18ef1e4bc3779e83@mail.gmail.com>
	<618015.82313.qm@web110209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<ecc18001001261438o144f3a0clfb76bc3029e52b5c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100127170255.seoxjir76skgcw0k@webmail.activ8.net.au>



   Sounds tempting Jeff! I think I'll need somewhere quiet just to  
catch up on my reading. Thank you for the bonus Duggan books which  
arrived today. I look forward to reading them soon. I'll look after  
them too and send all three back to you when I'm done.

   A funny sort of a day. A flight back to Sydney from Auckland where  
I was given an upgrade. Then witnessing a police officer stack his  
motorbike on the F6 freeway, followed by me rendering some first aid  
assistance. Not life threatening injuries thankfully. And then to come  
home to find half my lawn mowed and Duggan on the doorstep. What more  
could happen?

   Quoting Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com>:

> Don't Look Back only sometimes...and never in a mirror.
>
> Advert from Jeffrey............see below
> For Rent A Unit
>
> Unit 2/78 Pearson Street, West Brunswick......(VIC) 3055.
> To be let fully furnished
>
> Terms approx 280 per week
> Short term...up to 4 months
> 2 bedrooms in quiet situation...will accept students....any nat....
>
> All mod cons....wash house wash machine, sep toilet, small garden at back.
> Must agree to quit when Jeff Lynch returns from overseas...contact same
> human....
>
> phone ...(03) 93805070
> or.....jeffreyblynch at gmail.com
> Know a worth person or two?
> pass it on (discreetly...pulease)
> jeff..toadying ...for a change Ted.
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:
>
>> Better look in the mirror, Jeff. I just turned you into a toad. :)
>>
>> [hrm...] now back to the topic...
>>
>> --- On Tue, 26/1/10, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes Ted...a mysterious and well meaning wizard like yourself is to be hard
>> fought to keep at bay at times....your advice is probably good mais,.....
>>
>> It proves too.......Don't Look Back.....Only sometimes'
>> jeff.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ? ?
>> __________________________________________________________________________________
>> See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now:
>> http://au.movies.yahoo.com/session-times/[1]
>> ? _______________________________________________
>> List mailing list
>> List at tolharndor.org
>> http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org[2]
>>
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From dryad0404 at yahoo.co.uk  Fri Jan 29 11:39:20 2010
From: dryad0404 at yahoo.co.uk (dryad)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 00:39:20 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Jessica
In-Reply-To: <20100127170255.seoxjir76skgcw0k@webmail.activ8.net.au>
Message-ID: <976326.60414.qm@web24606.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Hi Michael,
?
Here's to hoping that I am?one of the three of which you speak.
?
Elise

--- On Wed, 27/1/10, Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au> wrote:


From: Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au>
Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Jessica
To: "Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society" <list at tolharndor.org>, "Jeff Lynch" <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, 27 January, 2010, 1:02




???Sounds tempting Jeff! I think I'll need somewhere quiet just to? 
catch up on my reading. Thank you for the bonus Duggan books which? 
arrived today. I look forward to reading them soon. I'll look after? 
them too and send all three back to you when I'm done.

???A funny sort of a day. A flight back to Sydney from Auckland where? 
I was given an upgrade. Then witnessing a police officer stack his? 
motorbike on the F6 freeway, followed by me rendering some first aid? 
assistance. Not life threatening injuries thankfully. And then to come? 
home to find half my lawn mowed and Duggan on the doorstep. What more? 
could happen?

???Quoting Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com>:

> Don't Look Back only sometimes...and never in a mirror.
>
> Advert from Jeffrey............see below
> For Rent A Unit
>
> Unit 2/78 Pearson Street, West Brunswick......(VIC) 3055.
> To be let fully furnished
>
> Terms approx 280 per week
> Short term...up to 4 months
> 2 bedrooms in quiet situation...will accept students....any nat....
>
> All mod cons....wash house wash machine, sep toilet, small garden at back..
> Must agree to quit when Jeff Lynch returns from overseas...contact same
> human....
>
> phone ...(03) 93805070
> or.....jeffreyblynch at gmail.com
> Know a worth person or two?
> pass it on (discreetly...pulease)
> jeff..toadying ...for a change Ted.
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:
>
>> Better look in the mirror, Jeff. I just turned you into a toad. :)
>>
>> [hrm...] now back to the topic...
>>
>> --- On Tue, 26/1/10, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes Ted...a mysterious and well meaning wizard like yourself is to be hard
>> fought to keep at bay at times....your advice is probably good mais,......
>>
>> It proves too.......Don't Look Back.....Only sometimes'
>> jeff.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ? ?
>> __________________________________________________________________________________
>> See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now:
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From mlk at activ8.net.au  Fri Jan 29 19:16:58 2010
From: mlk at activ8.net.au (Michael Kennedy)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:16:58 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Jessica
In-Reply-To: <976326.60414.qm@web24606.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
References: <976326.60414.qm@web24606.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20100129191658.zds5zfeyo0wwss88@webmail.activ8.net.au>



   Hi Elise,

   It goes without saying. :-)

   If you are able to travel here on your own odyssey?you will have a  
place on the day no matter what.

   Michael

   Quoting dryad <dryad0404 at yahoo.co.uk>:

> Hi Michael,
> ?
> Here's to hoping that I am?one of the three of which you speak.
> ?
> Elise
>
> --- On Wed, 27/1/10, Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au> wrote:
>
>
> From: Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au>
> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Jessica
> To: "Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society"?  
> <list at tolharndor.org>, "Jeff Lynch" <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com>
> Date: Wednesday, 27 January, 2010, 1:02
>
>
>
>
> ???Sounds tempting Jeff! I think I'll need somewhere quiet just to?
> catch up on my reading. Thank you for the bonus Duggan books which?
> arrived today. I look forward to reading them soon. I'll look after?
> them too and send all three back to you when I'm done.
>
> ???A funny sort of a day. A flight back to Sydney from Auckland where?
> I was given an upgrade. Then witnessing a police officer stack his?
> motorbike on the F6 freeway, followed by me rendering some first aid?
> assistance. Not life threatening injuries thankfully. And then to come?
> home to find half my lawn mowed and Duggan on the doorstep. What more?
> could happen?
>
> ???Quoting Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com>:
>
>> Don't Look Back only sometimes...and never in a mirror.
>>
>> Advert from Jeffrey............see below
>> For Rent A Unit
>>
>> Unit 2/78 Pearson Street, West Brunswick......(VIC) 3055.
>> To be let fully furnished
>>
>> Terms approx 280 per week
>> Short term...up to 4 months
>> 2 bedrooms in quiet situation...will accept students....any nat....
>>
>> All mod cons....wash house wash machine, sep toilet, small garden at back..
>> Must agree to quit when Jeff Lynch returns from overseas...contact same
>> human....
>>
>> phone ...(03) 93805070
>> or.....jeffreyblynch at gmail.com
>> Know a worth person or two?
>> pass it on (discreetly...pulease)
>> jeff..toadying ...for a change Ted.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Better look in the mirror, Jeff. I just turned you into a toad. :)
>>>
>>> [hrm...] now back to the topic...
>>>
>>> --- On Tue, 26/1/10, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes Ted...a mysterious and well meaning wizard like yourself is to be hard
>>> fought to keep at bay at times....your advice is probably good mais,......
>>>
>>> It proves too.......Don't Look Back.....Only sometimes'
>>> jeff.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ? ?
>>> __________________________________________________________________________________
>>> See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now:
>>> http://au.movies.yahoo.com/session-times/[1[1]]
>>> ? _______________________________________________
>>> List mailing list
>>> List at tolharndor.org
>>> http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org[2[2]]
>>>
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>
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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Sat Jan 30 08:52:25 2010
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 08:52:25 +1100
Subject: [TolHarndor] Jessica
In-Reply-To: <20100129191658.zds5zfeyo0wwss88@webmail.activ8.net.au>
References: <976326.60414.qm@web24606.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
	<20100129191658.zds5zfeyo0wwss88@webmail.activ8.net.au>
Message-ID: <ecc18001001291352m12b4b2a5v85eca422e09f9079@mail.gmail.com>

Fur Elise,
I triple what Mick just said.
jeff

On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au> wrote:

>
>
>  Hi Elise,
>
>  It goes without saying. :-)
>
>  If you are able to travel here on your own odyssey you will have a place
> on the day no matter what.
>
>  Michael
>
>
>  Quoting dryad <dryad0404 at yahoo.co.uk>:
>
>   Hi Michael,
>>
>> Here's to hoping that I am one of the three of which you speak.
>>
>> Elise
>>
>> --- On Wed, 27/1/10, Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au> wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au>
>> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Jessica
>> To: "Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society"  <list at tolharndor.org>,
>> "Jeff Lynch" <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com>
>> Date: Wednesday, 27 January, 2010, 1:02
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>    Sounds tempting Jeff! I think I'll need somewhere quiet just to
>> catch up on my reading. Thank you for the bonus Duggan books which
>> arrived today. I look forward to reading them soon. I'll look after
>> them too and send all three back to you when I'm done.
>>
>>    A funny sort of a day. A flight back to Sydney from Auckland where
>> I was given an upgrade. Then witnessing a police officer stack his
>> motorbike on the F6 freeway, followed by me rendering some first aid
>> assistance. Not life threatening injuries thankfully. And then to come
>> home to find half my lawn mowed and Duggan on the doorstep. What more
>> could happen?
>>
>>    Quoting Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com>:
>>
>>   Don't Look Back only sometimes...and never in a mirror.
>>>
>>> Advert from Jeffrey............see below
>>> For Rent A Unit
>>>
>>> Unit 2/78 Pearson Street, West Brunswick......(VIC) 3055.
>>> To be let fully furnished
>>>
>>> Terms approx 280 per week
>>> Short term...up to 4 months
>>> 2 bedrooms in quiet situation...will accept students....any nat....
>>>
>>> All mod cons....wash house wash machine, sep toilet, small garden at
>>> back..
>>> Must agree to quit when Jeff Lynch returns from overseas...contact same
>>> human....
>>>
>>> phone ...(03) 93805070
>>> or.....jeffreyblynch at gmail.com
>>> Know a worth person or two?
>>> pass it on (discreetly...pulease)
>>> jeff..toadying ...for a change Ted.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   Better look in the mirror, Jeff. I just turned you into a toad. :)
>>>>
>>>> [hrm...] now back to the topic...
>>>>
>>>> --- On Tue, 26/1/10, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes Ted...a mysterious and well meaning wizard like yourself is to be
>>>> hard
>>>> fought to keep at bay at times....your advice is probably good
>>>> mais,......
>>>>
>>>> It proves too.......Don't Look Back.....Only sometimes'
>>>> jeff.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> __________________________________________________________________________________
>>>> See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now:
>>>> http://au.movies.yahoo.com/session-times/[1[1]]<http://au.movies.yahoo.com/session-times/%5B1%5B1%5D%5D>
>>>>
>>>>   _______________________________________________
>>>> List mailing list
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>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>
>> Links:
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>> [2] http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org[5]<http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org%5B5%5D>
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>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
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From krenon at y7mail.com  Sun Jan 31 06:57:00 2010
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 11:57:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Jessica
In-Reply-To: <ecc18001001291352m12b4b2a5v85eca422e09f9079@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <265113.28817.qm@web110209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi Elise. Are you coming for Aussiecon 4?

--- On Sat, 30/1/10, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:



Fur Elise,
I triple what Mick just said.
jeff

On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au> wrote:

>? Hi Elise,
>
>? It goes without saying. :-)
>
>? If you are able to travel here on your own odyssey you will have a place
> on the day no matter what.
>
>? Michael



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