From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Tue Jun  1 23:32:46 2010
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 15:32:46 +0200
Subject: [TolHarndor] recent trips
In-Reply-To: <41ED93FFB6114572BA03CF2166DB39EC@Michael>
References: <739035.45985.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<41ED93FFB6114572BA03CF2166DB39EC@Michael>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimy6RPME5_9m8TgAz-X3IC8-K7Q66a5EP-QV99A@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah Ted magic Pics....
I did wonder about the quiet list.

Now Ted Science question.
Well,,,,sorta
I was looking at layers of ice..........if every layer of ice was
representative of a year....Guess how many years I was looking at A. 1000
years.....this at the ice Caves at Werfen near Salzburg..Howzat?
Hi Mike............I gonna take a short walk in Frueling.....along the
Wachau......the Danube region near Vienna.....just waiting now for good
weather.....bought a small backpack
.....area is around a place called Durnstein.........love jeff
Durnstein?.....see King Richard the Lion........

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au> wrote:

> Great photo Ted! Coincidentally, we were also in Tassie on the weekend of
> the 15th and 16th. We were in Launceston.
>
> The e-mail front may be quite but everything else is in full gear. I've
> been
> in correspondence with Rose Mitchell who is co-chairing Aussiecon 4, and
> who
> has kindly given us a plug in their next progress report. I'm still short a
> talk or two however, and I don't think it will be as large as the Sydney
> moot. I note that the concurrent Tolkien Seminar in England is also
> struggling to attract interest. Maybe if we tell the world that Tolkien had
> werewolves in his stories things would be different. ;-)
>
> Michael
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
> > bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Edwin Scribner
> > Sent: Monday, 31 May 2010 8:45 PM
> > To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
> > Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] recent trips
> >
> > Hi Jeff. Glad to read that you're enjoying yourself and finding
> > out lots of interesting stuff. I haven't heard from Michael (or
> > for that matter anyone on this mail list) for a few weeks. We
> > were in Tasmania from 7 to 15 of May, and I've got lots of
> > photos - over 2000 would you believe? A feature: when we were
> > at Cradle Mountain Lodge overnight, we awoke to find snow the
> > next morning. I've got an animation gif on
> > http://www.bullsheet.sf.org.au/bullsheet_99.html which shows 30
> > pictures of that snow.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Ted
> >
> > --- On Mon, 31/5/10, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] recent trips
> > To: "Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society"
> > <list at tolharndor.org>
> > Received: Monday, 31 May, 2010, 8:22 PM
> >
> > Dear all,
> > After 16 days travel in Austria and Germany I am back in
> > Vienna......in a
> > tiring but v novel trip I visited 7 Austrian towns and 5 German
> > towns.
> > Some of them...........over 16 days
> > Memmigen
> > Augsburg
> > Passau
> > Straubing
> > Regensburg
> >
> > Saltzburg
> > Freistadt
> > Graz
> > Zell am Zee
> > Innsbrucke.....I passed through Ingolstadt.....Munich und Linz
> >
> > As I wrote...to Mike...I have a large book on the subject of
> > Josef
> > Madlener'S LIFE WORK::::PAINTINGS AND DRAWING::
> > see 'The Spirit of the Mountains.'
> > I have been in ice cavesI outside Saltzburg...v
> > memorable......have found
> > much inspiration in art works and Altstadts...inner city areas
> > in nearly all
> > of the above cities.
> > So until 19th June...I am back home in Vienna.then home..home.
> > jeff
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Tue Jun  8 20:11:38 2010
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 12:11:38 +0200
Subject: [TolHarndor] Bones
In-Reply-To: <C441EF459077436E87487CF3008240FC@Michael>
References: <g2oecc18001004270447s915263a6ve2109bfc465d3f05@mail.gmail.com>
	<C441EF459077436E87487CF3008240FC@Michael>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilBy0YqzS8tRQGpg5B1eFpRmWaU1qMs7OELK6rV@mail.gmail.com>

Hey all you girls and guys are sooooo slack....I have an excuse....have to
use a German keyboard....someone just sat on my
UMLATTERS.......????????????????????
ond??????????????????????????????????????????????
jeff

On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I was flying back from Auckland last night and decided to watch Peter
> Jackson's The Lovely Bones. Has anyone else seen it? The movie itself was
> quite imaginative, if a little on the creepy side. However, the reason I
> mention it is that early on in the movie there's a scene set in a mall. As
> the camera pans across a bookshop, it slows noticeably so that the poster
> on
> the window cannot be missed. And just to show that PJ still has Tolkien in
> his head, the poster is an advertisement for The Lord of the Rings. To his
> credit, it's for the book, not the movie.
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> List mailing list
> List at tolharndor.org
> http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org
>

From krenon at y7mail.com  Wed Jun  9 07:47:23 2010
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 14:47:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Bones
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilBy0YqzS8tRQGpg5B1eFpRmWaU1qMs7OELK6rV@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <145437.76757.qm@web36705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

You shouldn't have invited her back to your abode for ...er ... well you shouldn't have invited her back to your abode. Those big German girls always sit on people's umlatters. There's nowhere else they can sit.

:)

--- On Tue, 8/6/10, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:

Hey all you girls and guys are sooooo slack....I have an excuse....have to
use a German keyboard....someone just sat on my
UMLATTERS.......????????????????????
ond??????????????????????????????????????????????
jeff





      

From dragon at roots-boots.net  Wed Jun  9 19:22:51 2010
From: dragon at roots-boots.net (Marayong)
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 19:22:51 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Bones
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilBy0YqzS8tRQGpg5B1eFpRmWaU1qMs7OELK6rV@mail.gmail.com>
References: <g2oecc18001004270447s915263a6ve2109bfc465d3f05@mail.gmail.com>	<C441EF459077436E87487CF3008240FC@Michael>
	<AANLkTilBy0YqzS8tRQGpg5B1eFpRmWaU1qMs7OELK6rV@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C0F5D6B.40409@roots-boots.net>

Hi Jeff,

I'm still here .. been busy .. one of my hard drives died and I'm in the 
middle of trying to recover the data from the dud disk. A slow, computer 
resource hungry process. Fortunately it wasn't the main one, just a 
drive full of backups, video clips and so forth.

cheers,
David



Jeff Lynch wrote:
> Hey all you girls and guys are sooooo slack....I have an excuse....have to
> use a German keyboard....someone just sat on my
> UMLATTERS.......????????????????????
> ond??????????????????????????????????????????????
> jeff
>
> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Michael Kennedy<mlk at activ8.net.au>  wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I was flying back from Auckland last night and decided to watch Peter
>> Jackson's The Lovely Bones. Has anyone else seen it? The movie itself was
>> quite imaginative, if a little on the creepy side. However, the reason I
>> mention it is that early on in the movie there's a scene set in a mall. As
>> the camera pans across a bookshop, it slows noticeably so that the poster
>> on
>> the window cannot be missed. And just to show that PJ still has Tolkien in
>> his head, the poster is an advertisement for The Lord of the Rings. To his
>> credit, it's for the book, not the movie.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> List mailing list
>> List at tolharndor.org
>> http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org
>>
> _______________________________________________
> List mailing list
> List at tolharndor.org
> http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org
>

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      http://roots-boots.net     mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net
The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for it
  to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its
           own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies


From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Sun Jun 13 17:51:37 2010
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 09:51:37 +0200
Subject: [TolHarndor] Bones
In-Reply-To: <145437.76757.qm@web36705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <AANLkTilBy0YqzS8tRQGpg5B1eFpRmWaU1qMs7OELK6rV@mail.gmail.com>
	<145437.76757.qm@web36705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinymQNtWWoL8YK7DMKA8vVliLfSasyfirk-Z9BL@mail.gmail.com>

DearTed...only you could have come up with that one......
I  am staying at the Oberon Hotel......my hostess is the estimable Ulrike
Und she is very careful not to sit on one's Umlatters.
.love jeff
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 11:47 PM, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:

> You shouldn't have invited her back to your abode for ...er ... well you
> shouldn't have invited her back to your abode. Those big German girls always
> sit on people's umlatters. There's nowhere else they can sit.
>
> :)
>
> --- On Tue, 8/6/10, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hey all you girls and guys are sooooo slack....I have an excuse....have to
> use a German keyboard....someone just sat on my
> UMLATTERS.......????????????????????
> ond??????????????????????????????????????????????
> jeff
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> List mailing list
> List at tolharndor.org
> http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org
>

From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Sun Jun 13 17:53:47 2010
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 09:53:47 +0200
Subject: [TolHarndor] Bones
In-Reply-To: <4C0F5D6B.40409@roots-boots.net>
References: <g2oecc18001004270447s915263a6ve2109bfc465d3f05@mail.gmail.com>
	<C441EF459077436E87487CF3008240FC@Michael>
	<AANLkTilBy0YqzS8tRQGpg5B1eFpRmWaU1qMs7OELK6rV@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C0F5D6B.40409@roots-boots.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimPGfeRw1oAn-ueg9QtvamgA1Xo0Zc6SzjtStpn@mail.gmail.com>

Hi there David,
I have but 6 days now.....afore I return.......
It will seem so strange to be back in an English speaking country....err if
australia can be counted as that.
jeff

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Marayong <dragon at roots-boots.net> wrote:

> Hi Jeff,
>
> I'm still here .. been busy .. one of my hard drives died and I'm in the
> middle of trying to recover the data from the dud disk. A slow, computer
> resource hungry process. Fortunately it wasn't the main one, just a drive
> full of backups, video clips and so forth.
>
> cheers,
> David
>
>
>
>
> Jeff Lynch wrote:
>
>> Hey all you girls and guys are sooooo slack....I have an excuse....have to
>> use a German keyboard....someone just sat on my
>> UMLATTERS.......????????????????????
>> ond??????????????????????????????????????????????
>> jeff
>>
>> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Michael Kennedy<mlk at activ8.net.au>
>>  wrote:
>>
>>  Hi All,
>>>
>>> I was flying back from Auckland last night and decided to watch Peter
>>> Jackson's The Lovely Bones. Has anyone else seen it? The movie itself was
>>> quite imaginative, if a little on the creepy side. However, the reason I
>>> mention it is that early on in the movie there's a scene set in a mall.
>>> As
>>> the camera pans across a bookshop, it slows noticeably so that the poster
>>> on
>>> the window cannot be missed. And just to show that PJ still has Tolkien
>>> in
>>> his head, the poster is an advertisement for The Lord of the Rings. To
>>> his
>>> credit, it's for the book, not the movie.
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> List mailing list
>>> List at tolharndor.org
>>> http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org
>>>
>>>  _______________________________________________
>> List mailing list
>> List at tolharndor.org
>> http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org
>>
>>
> --
> Line dancing, Genealogy, Travel, Photography, Local history & more!
>     http://roots-boots.net     mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net
> The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for it
>  to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its
>          own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From krenon at y7mail.com  Mon Jun 14 07:25:26 2010
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 14:25:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Bones
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinymQNtWWoL8YK7DMKA8vVliLfSasyfirk-Z9BL@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <919213.53501.qm@web36704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi Jeff.

--- On Sun, 13/6/10, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:

>DearTed...only you could have come up with that one......

Flattery will get you nowhere :)

>I? am staying at the Oberon Hotel......

There are two pubs in our Oberon and I wouldn't like to stay in either of them. I presume you are doing better.

>my hostess is the estimable Ulrike
>Und she is very careful not to sit on one's Umlatters.

Wissenschaft. Speaking of staying - I have booked my accommodation at the Holiday Inn, Flinders Lane, Melbourne at special Aussiecon4 rates (which are marginally less than the standard rates) from 2 to 7 September, the duration of Aussiecon4. I'm now casting around for a place to stay from26 or 27 August to 2 September - somewhere out of the city that's easy to get to the Pascoe Vale pub from and handy to transport to the city. Rozzie will be with me and she wants, among other things, to travel (by land as far as possible) around the perimeter of Port Philip Bay. I would like to go with her. I'm also casting about for a few other things to see, like eg gardens. Any advice appreciated.

Cheers

Ted



      

From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Fri Jun 18 18:58:29 2010
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 10:58:29 +0200
Subject: [TolHarndor] Bones
In-Reply-To: <919213.53501.qm@web36704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <AANLkTinymQNtWWoL8YK7DMKA8vVliLfSasyfirk-Z9BL@mail.gmail.com>
	<919213.53501.qm@web36704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikQPN-S0ilVdoZnNAzRlpegQv2mFQPnRxhh9xbd@mail.gmail.com>

Dear all,
after a couple of days rest----from travelling...after sunday I mean I will
ask
all if anything needs to be done about our moot.
On my book subject (PUBLISHING):::I mean Der Berggeist I meet with the
publisher next week.
It means the book will go into Galleys....I do notyet understand all this
process, but I do know that it will
cost me some money....it is a half way tween vanity publishing and not.....I
get a a lbrary number and the book is printed and registered....IBSN number,
is that right...I am not sure.
So tomorrow Doha...Sunday Melb-
jeff...


On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:

> Hi Jeff.
>
> --- On Sun, 13/6/10, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >DearTed...only you could have come up with that one......
>
> Flattery will get you nowhere :)
>
> >I  am staying at the Oberon Hotel......
>
> There are two pubs in our Oberon and I wouldn't like to stay in either of
> them. I presume you are doing better.
>
> >my hostess is the estimable Ulrike
> >Und she is very careful not to sit on one's Umlatters.
>
> Wissenschaft. Speaking of staying - I have booked my accommodation at the
> Holiday Inn, Flinders Lane, Melbourne at special Aussiecon4 rates (which are
> marginally less than the standard rates) from 2 to 7 September, the duration
> of Aussiecon4. I'm now casting around for a place to stay from26 or 27
> August to 2 September - somewhere out of the city that's easy to get to the
> Pascoe Vale pub from and handy to transport to the city. Rozzie will be with
> me and she wants, among other things, to travel (by land as far as possible)
> around the perimeter of Port Philip Bay. I would like to go with her. I'm
> also casting about for a few other things to see, like eg gardens. Any
> advice appreciated.
>
> Cheers
>
> Ted
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> List mailing list
> List at tolharndor.org
> http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org
>

From krenon at y7mail.com  Fri Jun 18 20:14:16 2010
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 03:14:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Bones
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikQPN-S0ilVdoZnNAzRlpegQv2mFQPnRxhh9xbd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <495303.36828.qm@web36704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi Jeff,

Could you recommend a part of Melbourne, accessible to Pascoe Vale and the city by reasonably regular trains, and which has some nice accommodation? I am / we are planning to take the XPT from Sydney to Melbourne on 26 August, ie to arrive a full day before the seminar. After the seminar we have until 2 September, on which date we go to the Holiday Inn on Flinders Lane for the duration of Aussiecon 4, then home on 7 September.? 

Cheers

Ted

--- On Fri, 18/6/10, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:

Dear all,
after a couple of days rest----from travelling...after sunday I mean I will
ask
all if anything needs to be done about our moot.




      

From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Sat Jun 19 18:16:12 2010
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 10:16:12 +0200
Subject: [TolHarndor] Bones
In-Reply-To: <495303.36828.qm@web36704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <AANLkTikQPN-S0ilVdoZnNAzRlpegQv2mFQPnRxhh9xbd@mail.gmail.com>
	<495303.36828.qm@web36704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimt9CTshK0ZjInYmbAZHG2ExbsGs-b5ZeVTaahs@mail.gmail.com>

OK Ted;
all htings being equal.....which they usually are not....in costs.........as
the train line to Pascoe Vale
emanates from Flinders Street the city ...not far from F St would be
cool....I mean in the city itself.
If, if you would like me to take you to Pacoe Vale then Parkville ( a part
of Carlton really) along ROYAL PARADE would be great too.....there are
several Hotels on or v near Royal Parade...a most beautiful St...and five
..six minutes by tram to the city...I could easily pick you up in my
car..have breakfast or coffee and go on  from my place....it is in West
brunswick but six minutes from P VALE....even less to Royal Parade.
It is possible that a hotel in R Parade may be cheaper than the city.
-
They are my 2 best shots-
jeff
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:

> Hi Jeff,
>
> Could you recommend a part of Melbourne, accessible to Pascoe Vale and the
> city by reasonably regular trains, and which has some nice accommodation? I
> am / we are planning to take the XPT from Sydney to Melbourne on 26 August,
> ie to arrive a full day before the seminar. After the seminar we have until
> 2 September, on which date we go to the Holiday Inn on Flinders Lane for the
> duration of Aussiecon 4, then home on 7 September.
>
> Cheers
>
> Ted
>
> --- On Fri, 18/6/10, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
> after a couple of days rest----from travelling...after sunday I mean I will
> ask
> all if anything needs to be done about our moot.
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> List mailing list
> List at tolharndor.org
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>

From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Thu Jun 24 17:30:51 2010
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 17:30:51 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Blackheath in LotR
In-Reply-To: <47424.43535.qm@web110210.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <C5D2919762974C3EA025C9CE04132865@Michael>
	<47424.43535.qm@web110210.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik3v7VdpfPwlfEGNxgyUrhGi5LftZ_zuzxUiZtp@mail.gmail.com>

>
>
>  Ted!,
>
I'm back home.

Fire up!
Jeff

From mlk at activ8.net.au  Thu Jun 24 19:36:52 2010
From: mlk at activ8.net.au (Michael Kennedy)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 19:36:52 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Blackheath in LotR
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik3v7VdpfPwlfEGNxgyUrhGi5LftZ_zuzxUiZtp@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <77A530DEEDF9423B92C0CA9EC3BA3250@Michael>


Welcome back!

You arrive back home and the Prime Minister changes. Coincidence? I Don't
think so!

Rest up Jeff! Some Seminar tasks coming your way soon!

Michael

> -----Original Message-----
> From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
> bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Lynch
> Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2010 5:31 PM
> To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Blackheath in LotR
> 
> >
> >
> >  Ted!,
> >
> I'm back home.
> 
> Fire up!
> Jeff
> _______________________________________________
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From krenon at y7mail.com  Thu Jun 24 20:50:40 2010
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 03:50:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Blackheath in LotR
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik3v7VdpfPwlfEGNxgyUrhGi5LftZ_zuzxUiZtp@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <464351.27060.qm@web36707.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I tell you, Jeff, that is exactly what I need. It's cold up here.

Cheers

Ted

--- On Thu, 24/6/10, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:
?Ted!,

I'm back home.

Fire up!
Jeff




      

From dryad0404 at yahoo.co.uk  Thu Jun 24 22:10:09 2010
From: dryad0404 at yahoo.co.uk (dryad)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 12:10:09 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Bones
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikQPN-S0ilVdoZnNAzRlpegQv2mFQPnRxhh9xbd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <663081.11068.qm@web24607.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Congrats Jeff. Yes, ISBN would be the id number. Hope to see everyone soon at the conference and AussieCon. :)

Elise

--- On Fri, 18/6/10, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Bones
To: "Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society" <list at tolharndor.org>
Date: Friday, 18 June, 2010, 4:58

Dear all,
after a couple of days rest----from travelling...after sunday I mean I will
ask
all if anything needs to be done about our moot.
On my book subject (PUBLISHING):::I mean Der Berggeist I meet with the
publisher next week.
It means the book will go into Galleys....I do notyet understand all this
process, but I do know that it will
cost me some money....it is a half way tween vanity publishing and not.....I
get a a lbrary number and the book is printed and registered....IBSN number,
is that right...I am not sure.
So tomorrow Doha...Sunday Melb-
jeff...


On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:

> Hi Jeff.
>
> --- On Sun, 13/6/10, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >DearTed...only you could have come up with that one......
>
> Flattery will get you nowhere :)
>
> >I? am staying at the Oberon Hotel......
>
> There are two pubs in our Oberon and I wouldn't like to stay in either of
> them. I presume you are doing better.
>
> >my hostess is the estimable Ulrike
> >Und she is very careful not to sit on one's Umlatters.
>
> Wissenschaft. Speaking of staying - I have booked my accommodation at the
> Holiday Inn, Flinders Lane, Melbourne at special Aussiecon4 rates (which are
> marginally less than the standard rates) from 2 to 7 September, the duration
> of Aussiecon4. I'm now casting around for a place to stay from26 or 27
> August to 2 September - somewhere out of the city that's easy to get to the
> Pascoe Vale pub from and handy to transport to the city. Rozzie will be with
> me and she wants, among other things, to travel (by land as far as possible)
> around the perimeter of Port Philip Bay. I would like to go with her. I'm
> also casting about for a few other things to see, like eg gardens. Any
> advice appreciated.
>
> Cheers
>
> Ted
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> List mailing list
> List at tolharndor.org
> http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org
>
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From mlk at activ8.net.au  Thu Jun 24 22:21:08 2010
From: mlk at activ8.net.au (Michael Kennedy)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 22:21:08 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Bones
In-Reply-To: <663081.11068.qm@web24607.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <A5F8B2B26C1143BDB5452F4F31C794AF@Michael>

I'm not sure why but this is the first time I've seen the e-mail below from
Jeff. I've noticed a few missed e-mails of late. 

As long as by galley they mean the publishing term, and not the kitchen I
think you're in business Jeff. Pleased as punch for you.

Elise - have you sent me your abstract as yet? I hope not because it would
mean I have gaps in my system!

Michael  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
> bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of dryad
> Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2010 10:10 PM
> To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Bones
> 
> Congrats Jeff. Yes, ISBN would be the id number. Hope to see
> everyone soon at the conference and AussieCon. :)
> 
> Elise
> 
> --- On Fri, 18/6/10, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> From: Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Bones
> To: "Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society"
> <list at tolharndor.org>
> Date: Friday, 18 June, 2010, 4:58
> 
> Dear all,
> after a couple of days rest----from travelling...after sunday I
> mean I will
> ask
> all if anything needs to be done about our moot.
> On my book subject (PUBLISHING):::I mean Der Berggeist I meet
> with the
> publisher next week.
> It means the book will go into Galleys....I do notyet
> understand all this
> process, but I do know that it will
> cost me some money....it is a half way tween vanity publishing
> and not.....I
> get a a lbrary number and the book is printed and
> registered....IBSN number,
> is that right...I am not sure.
> So tomorrow Doha...Sunday Melb-
> jeff...
> 
> 
> On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Edwin Scribner
> <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Jeff.
> >
> > --- On Sun, 13/6/10, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > >DearTed...only you could have come up with that one......
> >
> > Flattery will get you nowhere :)
> >
> > >I? am staying at the Oberon Hotel......
> >
> > There are two pubs in our Oberon and I wouldn't like to stay
> in either of
> > them. I presume you are doing better.
> >
> > >my hostess is the estimable Ulrike
> > >Und she is very careful not to sit on one's Umlatters.
> >
> > Wissenschaft. Speaking of staying - I have booked my
> accommodation at the
> > Holiday Inn, Flinders Lane, Melbourne at special Aussiecon4
> rates (which are
> > marginally less than the standard rates) from 2 to 7
> September, the duration
> > of Aussiecon4. I'm now casting around for a place to stay
> from26 or 27
> > August to 2 September - somewhere out of the city that's easy
> to get to the
> > Pascoe Vale pub from and handy to transport to the city.
> Rozzie will be with
> > me and she wants, among other things, to travel (by land as
> far as possible)
> > around the perimeter of Port Philip Bay. I would like to go
> with her. I'm
> > also casting about for a few other things to see, like eg
> gardens. Any
> > advice appreciated.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Ted
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > List mailing list
> > List at tolharndor.org
> > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org
> >
> _______________________________________________
> List mailing list
> List at tolharndor.org
> http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From krenon at y7mail.com  Fri Jun 25 07:38:06 2010
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 14:38:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Bones
Message-ID: <906007.78848.qm@web36707.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Jessica Watson might be confused between the two meanings of "galley" since she is now writing "her book" and her blogs certainly made much mention of her culinary efforts at sea (first catch your fish, squid etc.). However I'm inclined to think that Jessica is confused by very little - the one thing, unfortunately for her - was spherical geometry and the fact that she did not complete a "true circumnavigation" because of this.

Michael, when do you want a complete text of the talk? I offered to do either a short or a long version depending on your plans for the seminar's structure.

Cheers

Herendil

--- On Thu, 24/6/10, Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au> wrote:

I'm not sure why but this is the first time I've seen the e-mail below from
Jeff. I've noticed a few missed e-mails of late. 

As long as by galley they mean the publishing term, and not the kitchen I
think you're in business Jeff. Pleased as punch for you.

Elise - have you sent me your abstract as yet? I hope not because it would
mean I have gaps in my system!

Michael? 





      

From krenon at y7mail.com  Fri Jun 25 15:53:44 2010
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 22:53:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TolHarndor]  Gandalf and the West Gate
In-Reply-To: <906007.78848.qm@web36707.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <651726.3016.qm@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

You remember how the FotR were at the West Gate to Moria, the gate was shut and Gandalf had to find a way to open it. I was reminded of that yesterday at Katoomba. They have an Aldi supermarket that opened only a few weeks ago. As you may know, Aldi supermarkets open at 9 am and they rely more heavily on the shoppers doing things that in other supermarkets the store staff do. At a couple of minutes to 9 there were about 15 people waiting for the doors to open, several (myself included) with shopping trolleys (which as you would appreciate take up quite a lot of room, and the entrance to Aldi is not very large compared with eg Coles across the road).

At about one minute to 9, I thought I heard a click. This I would have expected, to allow the doors to open, but then they only open if the infrared beam is broken by a person or a trolley. The woman in the front of the queue - not really a queue, just people milling around, but the order of the shoppers' entry appeared quite well marked - I expected her to move up to the door and the door would then open. Well, she didn't move and neither did anyone else - they patiently waited for the doors to open. Perhaps I was wrong - she seemed to know what she was doing. So I waited for a couple of minutes. Nobody else stirred.

Finally, not being particularly patient in this context, I left my trolley and went past the woman to the door. I didn't look at her - I thought she would probably think I was jumping the queue and she wouldn't like it. She didn't say anything nor did she move. So I kept on going right up to the door.

I didn't say "mellon", but the doors opened anyway.

The others all looked amazed, then started thanking me profusely, as they poured in through the door.

They don't breed them for puzzle solving at Katoomba! 

- Herendil





      

From mlk at activ8.net.au  Fri Jun 25 18:54:23 2010
From: mlk at activ8.net.au (Michael Kennedy)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 18:54:23 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Gandalf and the West Gate
In-Reply-To: <651726.3016.qm@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4EDB75D8A134443599D26F4ED54D9235@Michael>

Our very own Gandalf appears! 'Mellon' wouldn't have worked anyway as Aldi
are not interested in friends. Maybe 'Manca' (trade) would have done the job
for us mere mortals. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
> bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Edwin Scribner
> Sent: Friday, 25 June 2010 3:54 PM
> To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
> Subject: [TolHarndor] Gandalf and the West Gate
> 
> You remember how the FotR were at the West Gate to Moria, the
> gate was shut and Gandalf had to find a way to open it. I was
> reminded of that yesterday at Katoomba. They have an Aldi
> supermarket that opened only a few weeks ago. As you may know,
> Aldi supermarkets open at 9 am and they rely more heavily on
> the shoppers doing things that in other supermarkets the store
> staff do. At a couple of minutes to 9 there were about 15
> people waiting for the doors to open, several (myself included)
> with shopping trolleys (which as you would appreciate take up
> quite a lot of room, and the entrance to Aldi is not very large
> compared with eg Coles across the road).
> 
> At about one minute to 9, I thought I heard a click. This I
> would have expected, to allow the doors to open, but then they
> only open if the infrared beam is broken by a person or a
> trolley. The woman in the front of the queue - not really a
> queue, just people milling around, but the order of the
> shoppers' entry appeared quite well marked - I expected her to
> move up to the door and the door would then open. Well, she
> didn't move and neither did anyone else - they patiently waited
> for the doors to open. Perhaps I was wrong - she seemed to know
> what she was doing. So I waited for a couple of minutes. Nobody
> else stirred.
> 
> Finally, not being particularly patient in this context, I left
> my trolley and went past the woman to the door. I didn't look
> at her - I thought she would probably think I was jumping the
> queue and she wouldn't like it. She didn't say anything nor did
> she move. So I kept on going right up to the door.
> 
> I didn't say "mellon", but the doors opened anyway.
> 
> The others all looked amazed, then started thanking me
> profusely, as they poured in through the door.
> 
> They don't breed them for puzzle solving at Katoomba!
> 
> - Herendil
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> List mailing list
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From dryad0404 at yahoo.co.uk  Sat Jun 26 07:55:22 2010
From: dryad0404 at yahoo.co.uk (dryad)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 21:55:22 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [TolHarndor] abstract
In-Reply-To: <A5F8B2B26C1143BDB5452F4F31C794AF@Michael>
Message-ID: <840373.24642.qm@web24613.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

ummm...no?? I will send it soon. I promise. :)
Elise

--- On Thu, 24/6/10, Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au> wrote:


From: Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au>
Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Bones
To: "'Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society'" <list at tolharndor.org>
Date: Thursday, 24 June, 2010, 8:21


I'm not sure why but this is the first time I've seen the e-mail below from
Jeff. I've noticed a few missed e-mails of late. 

As long as by galley they mean the publishing term, and not the kitchen I
think you're in business Jeff. Pleased as punch for you.

Elise - have you sent me your abstract as yet? I hope not because it would
mean I have gaps in my system!

Michael? 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
> bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of dryad
> Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2010 10:10 PM
> To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Bones
> 
> Congrats Jeff. Yes, ISBN would be the id number. Hope to see
> everyone soon at the conference and AussieCon. :)
> 
> Elise
> 
> --- On Fri, 18/6/10, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> From: Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Bones
> To: "Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society"
> <list at tolharndor.org>
> Date: Friday, 18 June, 2010, 4:58
> 
> Dear all,
> after a couple of days rest----from travelling...after sunday I
> mean I will
> ask
> all if anything needs to be done about our moot.
> On my book subject (PUBLISHING):::I mean Der Berggeist I meet
> with the
> publisher next week.
> It means the book will go into Galleys....I do notyet
> understand all this
> process, but I do know that it will
> cost me some money....it is a half way tween vanity publishing
> and not.....I
> get a a lbrary number and the book is printed and
> registered....IBSN number,
> is that right...I am not sure.
> So tomorrow Doha...Sunday Melb-
> jeff...
> 
> 
> On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Edwin Scribner
> <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Jeff.
> >
> > --- On Sun, 13/6/10, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > >DearTed...only you could have come up with that one......
> >
> > Flattery will get you nowhere :)
> >
> > >I? am staying at the Oberon Hotel......
> >
> > There are two pubs in our Oberon and I wouldn't like to stay
> in either of
> > them. I presume you are doing better.
> >
> > >my hostess is the estimable Ulrike
> > >Und she is very careful not to sit on one's Umlatters.
> >
> > Wissenschaft. Speaking of staying - I have booked my
> accommodation at the
> > Holiday Inn, Flinders Lane, Melbourne at special Aussiecon4
> rates (which are
> > marginally less than the standard rates) from 2 to 7
> September, the duration
> > of Aussiecon4. I'm now casting around for a place to stay
> from26 or 27
> > August to 2 September - somewhere out of the city that's easy
> to get to the
> > Pascoe Vale pub from and handy to transport to the city.
> Rozzie will be with
> > me and she wants, among other things, to travel (by land as
> far as possible)
> > around the perimeter of Port Philip Bay. I would like to go
> with her. I'm
> > also casting about for a few other things to see, like eg
> gardens. Any
> > advice appreciated.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Ted
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > List mailing list
> > List at tolharndor.org
> > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org
> >
> _______________________________________________
> List mailing list
> List at tolharndor.org
> http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> List at tolharndor.org
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From krenon at y7mail.com  Sat Jun 26 08:32:37 2010
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:32:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Gandalf and the West Gate
In-Reply-To: <4EDB75D8A134443599D26F4ED54D9235@Michael>
Message-ID: <159690.23271.qm@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Had I more self confidence at the time I might have used some incantation. However if I had done so and the doors didn't open I'd have had egg on my face.

--- On Fri, 25/6/10, Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au> wrote:

Our very own Gandalf appears! 'Mellon' wouldn't have worked anyway as Aldi
are not interested in friends. Maybe 'Manca' (trade) would have done the job
for us mere mortals. 





      

From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Sat Jun 26 10:11:54 2010
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 10:11:54 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Blackheath in LotR
In-Reply-To: <77A530DEEDF9423B92C0CA9EC3BA3250@Michael>
References: <AANLkTik3v7VdpfPwlfEGNxgyUrhGi5LftZ_zuzxUiZtp@mail.gmail.com>
	<77A530DEEDF9423B92C0CA9EC3BA3250@Michael>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinwL1ETxMRIWY2xbcuMCj7iJrYnWr0ztwLjN4-q@mail.gmail.com>

We are both redheads
jeff

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au> wrote:

>
> Welcome back!
>
> You arrive back home and the Prime Minister changes. Coincidence? I Don't
> think so!
>
> Rest up Jeff! Some Seminar tasks coming your way soon!
>
> Michael
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
> > bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Lynch
> > Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2010 5:31 PM
> > To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
> > Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Blackheath in LotR
> >
> > >
> > >
>  > >  Ted!,
> > >
> > I'm back home.
> >
> > Fire up!
> > Jeff
>  > _______________________________________________
> > List mailing list
> > List at tolharndor.org
> > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org
>
>
>
>
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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Sat Jun 26 10:17:27 2010
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 10:17:27 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Blackheath in LotR
In-Reply-To: <464351.27060.qm@web36707.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <AANLkTik3v7VdpfPwlfEGNxgyUrhGi5LftZ_zuzxUiZtp@mail.gmail.com>
	<464351.27060.qm@web36707.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinNJGnv0hvxQQDSr_JVBo0Ra68fWR0L8YwZOLFR@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Ted,
I read your thrush like tale.....
And you are exactly 'in role' as I think Micael picked up on.
Cold! ya know nothing err wait a mo ya up in the hills?
Snow on lower hills in Victoria.
Last day in Vienna I was sunbathing in the courtyard of the Odeon Hotel.
I'm pleased enough to be home......I was walking beside the Danube...for two
days...yes Hobbit like .......it was 34 degrees both days ....I came across
a small Romanesque Church in a bend f the road...looked at y map...place was
called Wosendorf....the churchboard outside said church read....the first
buildings of the church was started in 850 AD.....tis vvvery early  even for
Europe.....Charlemagne had been dead only 35 years!
Jeff

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Edwin Scribner <krenon at y7mail.com> wrote:

> I tell you, Jeff, that is exactly what I need. It's cold up here.
>
> Cheers
>
> Ted
>
> --- On Thu, 24/6/10, Jeff Lynch <jeffreyblynch at gmail.com> wrote:
>  Ted!,
>
> I'm back home.
>
> Fire up!
> Jeff
>
>
>
>
>
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From dragon at roots-boots.net  Sat Jun 26 10:20:10 2010
From: dragon at roots-boots.net (Marayong)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 10:20:10 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Bones
In-Reply-To: <A5F8B2B26C1143BDB5452F4F31C794AF@Michael>
References: <A5F8B2B26C1143BDB5452F4F31C794AF@Michael>
Message-ID: <4C2547BA.50201@roots-boots.net>

Michael Kennedy wrote:
> I'm not sure why but this is the first time I've seen the e-mail below from
> Jeff. I've noticed a few missed e-mails of late.

They went thru' the list ok. The only things blocked lately have been 
attempts to spam the list and one virus attack, all blocked by the list 
software.

cheers,
List Admin


>
> As long as by galley they mean the publishing term, and not the kitchen I
> think you're in business Jeff. Pleased as punch for you.
>
> Elise - have you sent me your abstract as yet? I hope not because it would
> mean I have gaps in my system!
>
> Michael
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
>> bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of dryad
>> Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2010 10:10 PM
>> To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
>> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Bones
>>
>> Congrats Jeff. Yes, ISBN would be the id number. Hope to see
>> everyone soon at the conference and AussieCon. :)
>>
>> Elise
>>
>> --- On Fri, 18/6/10, Jeff Lynch<jeffreyblynch at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>
>> From: Jeff Lynch<jeffreyblynch at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Bones
>> To: "Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society"
>> <list at tolharndor.org>
>> Date: Friday, 18 June, 2010, 4:58
>>
>> Dear all,
>> after a couple of days rest----from travelling...after sunday I
>> mean I will
>> ask
>> all if anything needs to be done about our moot.
>> On my book subject (PUBLISHING):::I mean Der Berggeist I meet
>> with the
>> publisher next week.
>> It means the book will go into Galleys....I do notyet
>> understand all this
>> process, but I do know that it will
>> cost me some money....it is a half way tween vanity publishing
>> and not.....I
>> get a a lbrary number and the book is printed and
>> registered....IBSN number,
>> is that right...I am not sure.
>> So tomorrow Doha...Sunday Melb-
>> jeff...
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Edwin Scribner
>> <krenon at y7mail.com>  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jeff.
>>>
>>> --- On Sun, 13/6/10, Jeff Lynch<jeffreyblynch at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> DearTed...only you could have come up with that one......
>>>
>>> Flattery will get you nowhere :)
>>>
>>>> I  am staying at the Oberon Hotel......
>>>
>>> There are two pubs in our Oberon and I wouldn't like to stay
>> in either of
>>> them. I presume you are doing better.
>>>
>>>> my hostess is the estimable Ulrike
>>>> Und she is very careful not to sit on one's Umlatters.
>>>
>>> Wissenschaft. Speaking of staying - I have booked my
>> accommodation at the
>>> Holiday Inn, Flinders Lane, Melbourne at special Aussiecon4
>> rates (which are
>>> marginally less than the standard rates) from 2 to 7
>> September, the duration
>>> of Aussiecon4. I'm now casting around for a place to stay
>> from26 or 27
>>> August to 2 September - somewhere out of the city that's easy
>> to get to the
>>> Pascoe Vale pub from and handy to transport to the city.
>> Rozzie will be with
>>> me and she wants, among other things, to travel (by land as
>> far as possible)
>>> around the perimeter of Port Philip Bay. I would like to go
>> with her. I'm
>>> also casting about for a few other things to see, like eg
>> gardens. Any
>>> advice appreciated.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Ted
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Sat Jun 26 10:21:49 2010
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 10:21:49 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Bones
In-Reply-To: <4C2547BA.50201@roots-boots.net>
References: <A5F8B2B26C1143BDB5452F4F31C794AF@Michael>
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Hi David.
jeff

On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Marayong <dragon at roots-boots.net> wrote:

> Michael Kennedy wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure why but this is the first time I've seen the e-mail below
>> from
>> Jeff. I've noticed a few missed e-mails of late.
>>
>
> They went thru' the list ok. The only things blocked lately have been
> attempts to spam the list and one virus attack, all blocked by the list
> software.
>
> cheers,
> List Admin
>
>
>
>
>> As long as by galley they mean the publishing term, and not the kitchen I
>> think you're in business Jeff. Pleased as punch for you.
>>
>> Elise - have you sent me your abstract as yet? I hope not because it would
>> mean I have gaps in my system!
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
>>> bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of dryad
>>> Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2010 10:10 PM
>>> To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
>>> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Bones
>>>
>>> Congrats Jeff. Yes, ISBN would be the id number. Hope to see
>>> everyone soon at the conference and AussieCon. :)
>>>
>>> Elise
>>>
>>> --- On Fri, 18/6/10, Jeff Lynch<jeffreyblynch at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>> From: Jeff Lynch<jeffreyblynch at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Bones
>>> To: "Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society"
>>> <list at tolharndor.org>
>>> Date: Friday, 18 June, 2010, 4:58
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>> after a couple of days rest----from travelling...after sunday I
>>> mean I will
>>> ask
>>> all if anything needs to be done about our moot.
>>> On my book subject (PUBLISHING):::I mean Der Berggeist I meet
>>> with the
>>> publisher next week.
>>> It means the book will go into Galleys....I do notyet
>>> understand all this
>>> process, but I do know that it will
>>> cost me some money....it is a half way tween vanity publishing
>>> and not.....I
>>> get a a lbrary number and the book is printed and
>>> registered....IBSN number,
>>> is that right...I am not sure.
>>> So tomorrow Doha...Sunday Melb-
>>> jeff...
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Edwin Scribner
>>> <krenon at y7mail.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Jeff.
>>>>
>>>> --- On Sun, 13/6/10, Jeff Lynch<jeffreyblynch at gmail.com>
>>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> DearTed...only you could have come up with that one......
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Flattery will get you nowhere :)
>>>>
>>>> I  am staying at the Oberon Hotel......
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There are two pubs in our Oberon and I wouldn't like to stay
>>>>
>>> in either of
>>>
>>>> them. I presume you are doing better.
>>>>
>>>> my hostess is the estimable Ulrike
>>>>> Und she is very careful not to sit on one's Umlatters.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wissenschaft. Speaking of staying - I have booked my
>>>>
>>> accommodation at the
>>>
>>>> Holiday Inn, Flinders Lane, Melbourne at special Aussiecon4
>>>>
>>> rates (which are
>>>
>>>> marginally less than the standard rates) from 2 to 7
>>>>
>>> September, the duration
>>>
>>>> of Aussiecon4. I'm now casting around for a place to stay
>>>>
>>> from26 or 27
>>>
>>>> August to 2 September - somewhere out of the city that's easy
>>>>
>>> to get to the
>>>
>>>> Pascoe Vale pub from and handy to transport to the city.
>>>>
>>> Rozzie will be with
>>>
>>>> me and she wants, among other things, to travel (by land as
>>>>
>>> far as possible)
>>>
>>>> around the perimeter of Port Philip Bay. I would like to go
>>>>
>>> with her. I'm
>>>
>>>> also casting about for a few other things to see, like eg
>>>>
>>> gardens. Any
>>>
>>>> advice appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> Ted
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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From dragon at roots-boots.net  Sat Jun 26 10:25:25 2010
From: dragon at roots-boots.net (Marayong)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 10:25:25 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Gandalf and the West Gate
In-Reply-To: <651726.3016.qm@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <651726.3016.qm@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4C2548F5.8050003@roots-boots.net>

Edwin Scribner wrote:

Interesting story ... I daresay since the store was new, the shoppers 
were not familiar with the need for shoppers to open the door themselves 
and if the woman didn't hear or notice the click, she'd know nothing.

As for saying 'mellon', you probably would need something more germanic 
.. ie: guttural. Perhaps something more Mordorish? Certainly those with 
memories of WW2 would agree there.

cheers,
David
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From dragon at roots-boots.net  Sat Jun 26 10:27:45 2010
From: dragon at roots-boots.net (Marayong)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 10:27:45 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Blackheath in LotR
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinwL1ETxMRIWY2xbcuMCj7iJrYnWr0ztwLjN4-q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTik3v7VdpfPwlfEGNxgyUrhGi5LftZ_zuzxUiZtp@mail.gmail.com>	<77A530DEEDF9423B92C0CA9EC3BA3250@Michael>
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Jeff Lynch wrote:
> We are both redheads

Just as long as you are not polishing your cutlery prior to staging a 
coup! How's your back Michael? :)

cheers,
David


> jeff
>
> On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Michael Kennedy<mlk at activ8.net.au>  wrote:
>
>>
>> Welcome back!
>>
>> You arrive back home and the Prime Minister changes. Coincidence? I Don't
>> think so!
>>
>> Rest up Jeff! Some Seminar tasks coming your way soon!
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
>>> bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Lynch
>>> Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2010 5:31 PM
>>> To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
>>> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Blackheath in LotR
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>   >  >   Ted!,
>>>>
>>> I'm back home.
>>>
>>> Fire up!
>>> Jeff
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From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Sun Jun 27 13:38:38 2010
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 13:38:38 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Blackheath in LotR
In-Reply-To: <4C254981.7080406@roots-boots.net>
References: <AANLkTik3v7VdpfPwlfEGNxgyUrhGi5LftZ_zuzxUiZtp@mail.gmail.com>
	<77A530DEEDF9423B92C0CA9EC3BA3250@Michael>
	<AANLkTinwL1ETxMRIWY2xbcuMCj7iJrYnWr0ztwLjN4-q@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C254981.7080406@roots-boots.net>
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Polishing cuterly Daid?



do a Pauline please...please explain.
jeff.

ps she is a little redder than I ...except for my dial.

On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Marayong <dragon at roots-boots.net> wrote:

> Jeff Lynch wrote:
>
>> We are both redheads
>>
>
> Just as long as you are not polishing your cutlery prior to staging a coup!
> How's your back Michael? :)
>
> cheers,
> David
>
>
>
> jeff
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Michael Kennedy<mlk at activ8.net.au>
>>  wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Welcome back!
>>>
>>> You arrive back home and the Prime Minister changes. Coincidence? I Don't
>>> think so!
>>>
>>> Rest up Jeff! Some Seminar tasks coming your way soon!
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
>>>> bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Lynch
>>>> Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2010 5:31 PM
>>>> To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
>>>> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Blackheath in LotR
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  >  >   Ted!,
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I'm back home.
>>>>
>>>> Fire up!
>>>> Jeff
>>>>
>>>  >  _______________________________________________
>>>
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From dragon at roots-boots.net  Sun Jun 27 15:55:34 2010
From: dragon at roots-boots.net (Marayong)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 15:55:34 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Blackheath in LotR
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikb8bxXNZmRlG4-Y92Jlp4SGd88Zp9gzwP4mWTL@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTik3v7VdpfPwlfEGNxgyUrhGi5LftZ_zuzxUiZtp@mail.gmail.com>	<77A530DEEDF9423B92C0CA9EC3BA3250@Michael>	<AANLkTinwL1ETxMRIWY2xbcuMCj7iJrYnWr0ztwLjN4-q@mail.gmail.com>	<4C254981.7080406@roots-boots.net>
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Jeff,

The redhead who recently gained power did so by knifing her predecessor 
in the back .. so one hopes that the resident redhead has no plans on 
doing the same .. knife -> cutlery.

cheers,
David

Jeff Lynch wrote:
> Polishing cuterly Daid?
>
>
>
> do a Pauline please...please explain.
> jeff.
>
> ps she is a little redder than I ...except for my dial.
>
> On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Marayong<dragon at roots-boots.net>  wrote:
>
>> Jeff Lynch wrote:
>>
>>> We are both redheads
>>>
>>
>> Just as long as you are not polishing your cutlery prior to staging a coup!
>> How's your back Michael? :)
>>
>> cheers,
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>> jeff
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Michael Kennedy<mlk at activ8.net.au>
>>>   wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Welcome back!
>>>>
>>>> You arrive back home and the Prime Minister changes. Coincidence? I Don't
>>>> think so!
>>>>
>>>> Rest up Jeff! Some Seminar tasks coming your way soon!
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
>>>>> bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Lynch
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2010 5:31 PM
>>>>> To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
>>>>> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Blackheath in LotR
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   >   >    Ted!,
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm back home.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fire up!
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>
>>>>   >   _______________________________________________
>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>
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From mlk at activ8.net.au  Sun Jun 27 20:45:49 2010
From: mlk at activ8.net.au (Michael Kennedy)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 20:45:49 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Blackheath in LotR
In-Reply-To: <4C26E7D6.9050901@roots-boots.net>
Message-ID: <6CBDFC646CB945108BFF346B466C8EC7@Michael>

My back's fine, although my knee is a little sore. I'm thinking it must be
in sympathy with our dog who is having knee surgery tomorrow for patella
luxation. Sounds like a shampoo hey?



> -----Original Message-----
> From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
> bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Marayong
> Sent: Sunday, 27 June 2010 3:56 PM
> To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Blackheath in LotR
> 
> Jeff,
> 
> The redhead who recently gained power did so by knifing her
> predecessor
> in the back .. so one hopes that the resident redhead has no
> plans on
> doing the same .. knife -> cutlery.
> 
> cheers,
> David
> 
> Jeff Lynch wrote:
> > Polishing cuterly Daid?
> >
> >
> >
> > do a Pauline please...please explain.
> > jeff.
> >
> > ps she is a little redder than I ...except for my dial.
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Marayong<dragon at roots-
> boots.net>  wrote:
> >
> >> Jeff Lynch wrote:
> >>
> >>> We are both redheads
> >>>
> >>
> >> Just as long as you are not polishing your cutlery prior to
> staging a coup!
> >> How's your back Michael? :)
> >>
> >> cheers,
> >> David
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> jeff
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Michael
> Kennedy<mlk at activ8.net.au>
> >>>   wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Welcome back!
> >>>>
> >>>> You arrive back home and the Prime Minister changes.
> Coincidence? I Don't
> >>>> think so!
> >>>>
> >>>> Rest up Jeff! Some Seminar tasks coming your way soon!
> >>>>
> >>>> Michael
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
> >>>>> bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Lynch
> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2010 5:31 PM
> >>>>> To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Blackheath in LotR
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>   >   >    Ted!,
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I'm back home.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Fire up!
> >>>>> Jeff
> >>>>>
> >>>>   >   _______________________________________________
> >>>>
> >>>>> List mailing list
> >>>>> List at tolharndor.org
> >>>>>
> http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>
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> boots.net
> >> The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be
> for it
> >>   to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to
> lose its
> >>           own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies
> >>
> >>
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From dragon at roots-boots.net  Sun Jun 27 21:43:43 2010
From: dragon at roots-boots.net (Marayong)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 21:43:43 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Blackheath in LotR
In-Reply-To: <6CBDFC646CB945108BFF346B466C8EC7@Michael>
References: <6CBDFC646CB945108BFF346B466C8EC7@Michael>
Message-ID: <4C27396F.2010501@roots-boots.net>

Michael Kennedy wrote:
> My back's fine, although my knee is a little sore. I'm thinking it must be
> in sympathy with our dog who is having knee surgery tomorrow for patella
> luxation. Sounds like a shampoo hey?

I guess he slipped with the knife? :)

cheers,
David

>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
>> bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Marayong
>> Sent: Sunday, 27 June 2010 3:56 PM
>> To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
>> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Blackheath in LotR
>>
>> Jeff,
>>
>> The redhead who recently gained power did so by knifing her
>> predecessor
>> in the back .. so one hopes that the resident redhead has no
>> plans on
>> doing the same .. knife ->  cutlery.
>>
>> cheers,
>> David
>>
>> Jeff Lynch wrote:
>>> Polishing cuterly Daid?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> do a Pauline please...please explain.
>>> jeff.
>>>
>>> ps she is a little redder than I ...except for my dial.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Marayong<dragon at roots-
>> boots.net>   wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jeff Lynch wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We are both redheads
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just as long as you are not polishing your cutlery prior to
>> staging a coup!
>>>> How's your back Michael? :)
>>>>
>>>> cheers,
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> jeff
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Michael
>> Kennedy<mlk at activ8.net.au>
>>>>>    wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Welcome back!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You arrive back home and the Prime Minister changes.
>> Coincidence? I Don't
>>>>>> think so!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rest up Jeff! Some Seminar tasks coming your way soon!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
>>>>>>> bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Lynch
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2010 5:31 PM
>>>>>>> To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Blackheath in LotR
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    >    >     Ted!,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm back home.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fire up!
>>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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From krenon at y7mail.com  Tue Jun 29 06:28:23 2010
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 13:28:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Blackheath in LotR
In-Reply-To: <6CBDFC646CB945108BFF346B466C8EC7@Michael>
Message-ID: <973131.74379.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Luxation? Enlightenment?

--- On Sun, 27/6/10, Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au> wrote:


My back's fine, although my knee is a little sore. I'm thinking it must be
in sympathy with our dog who is having knee surgery tomorrow for patella
luxation. Sounds like a shampoo hey?







      

From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com  Tue Jun 29 09:45:29 2010
From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 09:45:29 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Blackheath in LotR
In-Reply-To: <4C26E7D6.9050901@roots-boots.net>
References: <AANLkTik3v7VdpfPwlfEGNxgyUrhGi5LftZ_zuzxUiZtp@mail.gmail.com>
	<77A530DEEDF9423B92C0CA9EC3BA3250@Michael>
	<AANLkTinwL1ETxMRIWY2xbcuMCj7iJrYnWr0ztwLjN4-q@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C254981.7080406@roots-boots.net>
	<AANLkTikb8bxXNZmRlG4-Y92Jlp4SGd88Zp9gzwP4mWTL@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C26E7D6.9050901@roots-boots.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim5wtuc3DU-ZybvVkCF8mpRgi2PheP4tvBKS9wH@mail.gmail.com>

David,
I would be the servant only...the one paid to clean the silverware.
Jeff...ta for the explain yours the other redhead...Pauline

On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Marayong <dragon at roots-boots.net> wrote:

> Jeff,
>
> The redhead who recently gained power did so by knifing her predecessor in
> the back .. so one hopes that the resident redhead has no plans on doing the
> same .. knife -> cutlery.
>
>
> cheers,
> David
>
> Jeff Lynch wrote:
>
>> Polishing cuterly Daid?
>>
>>
>>
>> do a Pauline please...please explain.
>> jeff.
>>
>> ps she is a little redder than I ...except for my dial.
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Marayong<dragon at roots-boots.net>
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Jeff Lynch wrote:
>>>
>>> We are both redheads
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Just as long as you are not polishing your cutlery prior to staging a
>>> coup!
>>> How's your back Michael? :)
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> jeff
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Michael Kennedy<mlk at activ8.net.au>
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Welcome back!
>>>>>
>>>>> You arrive back home and the Prime Minister changes. Coincidence? I
>>>>> Don't
>>>>> think so!
>>>>>
>>>>> Rest up Jeff! Some Seminar tasks coming your way soon!
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>
>>>>>> From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
>>>>>> bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Lynch
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2010 5:31 PM
>>>>>> To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Blackheath in LotR
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  >   >    Ted!,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm back home.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fire up!
>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  >   _______________________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>> List mailing list
>>>>>> List at tolharndor.org
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>  to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its
>>>          own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies
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From dragon at roots-boots.net  Tue Jun 29 16:56:16 2010
From: dragon at roots-boots.net (Marayong)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 16:56:16 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Blackheath in LotR
In-Reply-To: <973131.74379.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <973131.74379.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4C299910.2090203@roots-boots.net>

Edwin Scribner wrote:
> Luxation? Enlightenment?

Translated ... Dislocated kneecap.

cheers,
Technical Support

>
> --- On Sun, 27/6/10, Michael Kennedy<mlk at activ8.net.au>  wrote:
>
>
> My back's fine, although my knee is a little sore. I'm thinking it must be
> in sympathy with our dog who is having knee surgery tomorrow for patella
> luxation. Sounds like a shampoo hey?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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           own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies


From dragon at roots-boots.net  Tue Jun 29 16:56:53 2010
From: dragon at roots-boots.net (Marayong)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 16:56:53 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Blackheath in LotR
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim5wtuc3DU-ZybvVkCF8mpRgi2PheP4tvBKS9wH@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTik3v7VdpfPwlfEGNxgyUrhGi5LftZ_zuzxUiZtp@mail.gmail.com>	<77A530DEEDF9423B92C0CA9EC3BA3250@Michael>	<AANLkTinwL1ETxMRIWY2xbcuMCj7iJrYnWr0ztwLjN4-q@mail.gmail.com>	<4C254981.7080406@roots-boots.net>	<AANLkTikb8bxXNZmRlG4-Y92Jlp4SGd88Zp9gzwP4mWTL@mail.gmail.com>	<4C26E7D6.9050901@roots-boots.net>
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Message-ID: <4C299935.9030003@roots-boots.net>

Cleaning the knives eh Jeff? I rest my case ....

cheers,
David

Jeff Lynch wrote:
> David,
> I would be the servant only...the one paid to clean the silverware.
> Jeff...ta for the explain yours the other redhead...Pauline
>
> On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Marayong<dragon at roots-boots.net>  wrote:
>
>> Jeff,
>>
>> The redhead who recently gained power did so by knifing her predecessor in
>> the back .. so one hopes that the resident redhead has no plans on doing the
>> same .. knife ->  cutlery.
>>
>>
>> cheers,
>> David
>>
>> Jeff Lynch wrote:
>>
>>> Polishing cuterly Daid?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> do a Pauline please...please explain.
>>> jeff.
>>>
>>> ps she is a little redder than I ...except for my dial.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Marayong<dragon at roots-boots.net>
>>>   wrote:
>>>
>>> Jeff Lynch wrote:
>>>>
>>>> We are both redheads
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Just as long as you are not polishing your cutlery prior to staging a
>>>> coup!
>>>> How's your back Michael? :)
>>>>
>>>> cheers,
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> jeff
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Michael Kennedy<mlk at activ8.net.au>
>>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Welcome back!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You arrive back home and the Prime Minister changes. Coincidence? I
>>>>>> Don't
>>>>>> think so!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rest up Jeff! Some Seminar tasks coming your way soon!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
>>>>>>> bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Lynch
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2010 5:31 PM
>>>>>>> To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Blackheath in LotR
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   >    >     Ted!,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm back home.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fire up!
>>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   >    _______________________________________________
>>>>>>
>>>>>> List mailing list
>>>>>>> List at tolharndor.org
>>>>>>> http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>   to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its
>>>>           own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies
>>>>
>>>>
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From mlk at activ8.net.au  Tue Jun 29 20:13:06 2010
From: mlk at activ8.net.au (Michael Kennedy)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 20:13:06 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Blackheath in LotR
In-Reply-To: <4C299910.2090203@roots-boots.net>
Message-ID: <FB1580031B934674AA5453E4EC8F7795@Michael>

This is correct. It's a hereditary condition that is relatively common.
Anyway, as you can see from the photo, it has now been operated on and
hopefully remedied. 

It makes me wonder about Middle-earth genetics. I would speculate that the
Elves had the most limited gene pool, and perhaps this goes some ways to
explaining some of their physical attributes. On the side of the coin it's a
wonder some of them didn't experience the odd occasion of luxation.... 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list-
> bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Marayong
> Sent: Tuesday, 29 June 2010 4:56 PM
> To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society
> Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Blackheath in LotR
> 
> Edwin Scribner wrote:
> > Luxation? Enlightenment?
> 
> Translated ... Dislocated kneecap.
> 
> cheers,
> Technical Support
> 
> >
> > --- On Sun, 27/6/10, Michael Kennedy<mlk at activ8.net.au>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > My back's fine, although my knee is a little sore. I'm
> thinking it must be
> > in sympathy with our dog who is having knee surgery tomorrow
> for patella
> > luxation. Sounds like a shampoo hey?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > List at tolharndor.org
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> its
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From krenon at y7mail.com  Tue Jun 29 20:25:15 2010
From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 03:25:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TolHarndor] Blackheath in LotR
In-Reply-To: <FB1580031B934674AA5453E4EC8F7795@Michael>
Message-ID: <510936.81625.qm@web36705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Eru didn't say "Fiat Luxation" :)

--- On Tue, 29/6/10, Michael Kennedy <mlk at activ8.net.au> wrote:


This is correct. It's a hereditary condition that is relatively common.
Anyway, as you can see from the photo, it has now been operated on and
hopefully remedied. 

It makes me wonder about Middle-earth genetics. I would speculate that the
Elves had the most limited gene pool, and perhaps this goes some ways to
explaining some of their physical attributes. On the side of the coin it's a
wonder some of them didn't experience the odd occasion of luxation.... 





      

From dragon at roots-boots.net  Wed Jun 30 20:21:29 2010
From: dragon at roots-boots.net (Marayong)
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 20:21:29 +1000
Subject: [TolHarndor] Blackheath in LotR
In-Reply-To: <FB1580031B934674AA5453E4EC8F7795@Michael>
References: <FB1580031B934674AA5453E4EC8F7795@Michael>
Message-ID: <4C2B1AA9.9090908@roots-boots.net>

Michael Kennedy wrote:
> It makes me wonder about Middle-earth genetics. I would speculate that the
> Elves had the most limited gene pool, and perhaps this goes some ways to
> explaining some of their physical attributes. On the side of the coin it's a
> wonder some of them didn't experience the odd occasion of luxation....

A limited gene pool would have two effects ... initially it would lead 
to a whole mass of genetic disorders. Most of these would not be viable 
in the long term and after a sufficient number of generations these bad 
genes would be weeded out of the gene pool. Of course, some mutations 
would be viable and would result in a number of sub-species and possibly 
even different species. That's evolution after all. Morgoth aside, this 
could explain the origin of orcs as a sub-species of elves .. actually, 
orcs are often depicted as having a multitude of appearances, all less 
than appealing. Perhaps orcs are merely the elven genetic defectives 
resulting from a too-small gene pool? And akin to ancient societies who 
abandoned unwanted children out in the wilds (or wherever), perhaps the 
elven defectives were abandoned ... somewhere .. and collected by fellow 
defectives and raised as .. orcs. Of course some would be fertile (some 
not), so the 'defectives' would be a self-sustaining sub-species. But 
not a distinct species since there would be a continual influx of new 
'defectives' from the elven parent race.

But what of Morgoth? One could argue that if ME is analogous to Earth, 
then Morgoth was merely a figment of mythology, hence a different origin 
for the orcs would be required. Perhaps humans, dwarves & hobbits were 
also sub-species, albeit ones that were less disfigured. After all, 
elves & humans could interbreed & produce fertile offspring, so they 
were the same species.

Oh, and the long term effect would be to weed out faulty genes and 
eventually you'd have a very small gene pool for the race, with very 
little variation ... every member would effectively be a biological 
clone, at least in terms of genetic variability (or lack thereof). With 
few, if any, faulty genes left, the usual problem with close kin having 
issue would no longer be a problem.

cheers,
David
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