From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com Wed Sep 1 09:47:04 2010 From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 09:47:04 +1000 Subject: [TolHarndor] Tolkien Seminar In-Reply-To: <4C7CB257.2020304@roots-boots.net> References: <4C6D053F.9060001@roots-boots.net> <6C992BF6C9B94BB5AED21CE4FA8F21AB@Michael> <4C7B5248.5010702@roots-boots.net> <4C7CB257.2020304@roots-boots.net> Message-ID: Ok anything.....in two parts coming soon....to ya desk. Followed In a few days..... by (the next) two parts of THE SHIRE CRICKET CHRONICLES written by one Bungo Willowbottom...Hon Sec for THE SHIRE CRICKET ASSOCIATION. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Marayong wrote: > Jeff Lynch wrote: > >> I have an unrelated thingo.....Cricket in the shire type of thingo for ya >> Dave...Ho Hum? >> > > I'll take anything ... but I am hoping to have something for the issue that > isn't by Jeff .. seeing he's the only person so far who has submitted > ANYTHING for the next issue. *hint, hint* > > cheers, > Ye Editor > > > jeff....coming soon! >> >> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Marayong wrote: >> >> Sounds like you folk had an enjoyable& fruitful time down there. I was >>> stuck at a rather so-so engagement party ... one of those events you have >>> to >>> go to but since you know almost no-one, end sup a rather unmemorable >>> event. >>> Oh well ... >>> >>> If people would like to send me material from their presentations and/or >>> reviews/thoughts on the moot, I can add them to the pile for the next >>> issue >>> of Tilkal .. and maybe have enuf stuff for the next issue. >>> >>> cheers, >>> David >>> >>> >>> Jeff Lynch wrote: >>> >>> Michael.... so glad to hear that the elf is home again. >>>> Dinner at Trotters. >>>> A great success........several....most notably the Anglos had Odysseys >>>> getting there but Elise also did much the same....they came up the >>>> stairs >>>> puffing after walking so many blocks. >>>> But with Hobbit like condiderations the dinner was a great >>>> success....wine....great food... bulldust...(mit much literary talk to >>>> leaven it all)....more wine more bulldust an dbookspeak...there was much >>>> bookspeak.... >>>> All seemed to glow with the night >>>> PS Ted and Ros did not make it...I saw him nodding a bit before I took >>>> him >>>> to the Motel? >>>> I DEPARTED TIRED BUT ALSO GLOWING...A GREAT DAY ALL ROUND. >>>> JEFF >>>> On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Michael Kennedy >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Just a quick note so say how pleased I was with the Seminar yesterday. >>>>> Ted's >>>>> presentation was predictably entertaining and almost certainly produced >>>>> the >>>>> greatest number of chuckles! >>>>> >>>>> Jeff, thanks again for your help on the ground. It was great to see >>>>> Karen >>>>> and Angus there too. >>>>> >>>>> I had to return home last night instead of today because Meredith ended >>>>> up >>>>> in hospital due to the flue which is set to peak here in the next two >>>>> weeks. >>>>> We suspect she picked it up in Fiji, or somewhere in transit. After a >>>>> generous infusion of various substances, she is now home and resting >>>>> comfortably, and will have to do so for the rest of the week. >>>>> >>>>> I look forward to hearing how dinner at 'Trotters' went. >>>>> >>>>> Michael >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> List mailing list >>>>> List at tolharndor.org >>>>> http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>> List mailing list >>>> List at tolharndor.org >>>> http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>> Line dancing, Genealogy, Travel, Photography, Local history& more! >>> http://roots-boots.net mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net >>> The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for it >>> to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its >>> own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> List mailing list >>> List at tolharndor.org >>> http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> List mailing list >> List at tolharndor.org >> http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org >> >> > -- > Line dancing, Genealogy, Travel, Photography, Local history & more! > http://roots-boots.net mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net > The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for it > to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its > own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies > > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at tolharndor.org > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > From pwilkin37 at gmail.com Wed Sep 1 10:14:57 2010 From: pwilkin37 at gmail.com (Peter Wilkin) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 10:14:57 +1000 Subject: [TolHarndor] Matchstick Minas Tirith Message-ID: Hi folks, Something to do on a rainy day when you're bored.. http://www.geekologie.com/2010/08/one_ring_flame_to_rule_ruin_th.php P From mlk at activ8.net.au Wed Sep 1 17:49:23 2010 From: mlk at activ8.net.au (Michael Kennedy) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 17:49:23 +1000 Subject: [TolHarndor] Matchstick Minas Tirith In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5F7734C286C24DC9BD2E247116E6764B@Michael> Striking! > -----Original Message----- > From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list- > bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Peter Wilkin > Sent: Wednesday, 1 September 2010 10:15 AM > To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society > Subject: [TolHarndor] Matchstick Minas Tirith > > Hi folks, > > Something to do on a rainy day when you're bored.. > > http://www.geekologie.com/2010/08/one_ring_flame_to_rule_ruin_t > h.php > > P > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at tolharndor.org > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the Activ8me Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ From dpowell2768 at gmail.com Wed Sep 1 18:08:55 2010 From: dpowell2768 at gmail.com (Marayong) Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2010 18:08:55 +1000 Subject: [TolHarndor] Matchstick Minas Tirith In-Reply-To: <5F7734C286C24DC9BD2E247116E6764B@Michael> References: <5F7734C286C24DC9BD2E247116E6764B@Michael> Message-ID: <4C7E0A17.9050400@roots-boots.net> Michael Kennedy wrote: > Striking! You firebrand, you!!! cheers, David > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list- >> bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Peter Wilkin >> Sent: Wednesday, 1 September 2010 10:15 AM >> To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society >> Subject: [TolHarndor] Matchstick Minas Tirith >> >> Hi folks, >> >> Something to do on a rainy day when you're bored.. >> >> http://www.geekologie.com/2010/08/one_ring_flame_to_rule_ruin_t >> h.php >> >> P >> _______________________________________________ >> List mailing list >> List at tolharndor.org >> http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > This email has been scanned by the Activ8me Email Security System. > ______________________________________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at tolharndor.org > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > -- Line dancing, Genealogy, Travel, Photography, Local history & more! http://roots-boots.net mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for it to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com Thu Sep 2 08:53:11 2010 From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 00:53:11 +0200 Subject: [TolHarndor] Matchstick Minas Tirith In-Reply-To: <4C7E0A17.9050400@roots-boots.net> References: <5F7734C286C24DC9BD2E247116E6764B@Michael> <4C7E0A17.9050400@roots-boots.net> Message-ID: Dear David....Please see that I have sent The Shire Cricket Tale.....to your dragon mail list. love jeff From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com Fri Sep 3 08:39:57 2010 From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 08:39:57 +1000 Subject: [TolHarndor] Tolkien Seminar In-Reply-To: <6C992BF6C9B94BB5AED21CE4FA8F21AB@Michael> References: <4C6D053F.9060001@roots-boots.net> <6C992BF6C9B94BB5AED21CE4FA8F21AB@Michael> Message-ID: I shan't...but mayhaps Ted might (will)? do a report for David....re our mighty con? jeff ps Ted has vanished in the murk of Melbourne somewhere. jeff From dragon at roots-boots.net Fri Sep 3 12:47:12 2010 From: dragon at roots-boots.net (David Powell) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2010 12:47:12 +1000 Subject: [TolHarndor] Tolkien Seminar In-Reply-To: References: <4C6D053F.9060001@roots-boots.net> <6C992BF6C9B94BB5AED21CE4FA8F21AB@Michael> Message-ID: <20100903124712.1xpgz9u6qa680w4c@roots-boots.net> Quoting Jeff Lynch : > I shan't...but mayhaps Ted might (will)? do a report for David....re our > mighty con? PLEASE???????? > ps Ted has vanished in the murk of Melbourne somewhere. Sounds suspicious .... the underbelly of Melbourne eh? cheers, Ye Editor -- Australian Linedance website of the year: Tamworth 2005,2007,2008,2009 http://roots-boots.net mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for it to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com Sat Sep 4 09:23:21 2010 From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 09:23:21 +1000 Subject: [TolHarndor] Tolkien Seminar In-Reply-To: <20100903124712.1xpgz9u6qa680w4c@roots-boots.net> References: <4C6D053F.9060001@roots-boots.net> <6C992BF6C9B94BB5AED21CE4FA8F21AB@Michael> <20100903124712.1xpgz9u6qa680w4c@roots-boots.net> Message-ID: No Ted was never made for 'underbelly'.... He will now be 'lurking' yes I like him lurking among the other 'usual suspects' of the sci fiction world. Alien as they all are to the heart beats of our world...good luck Ted....wherever you might be. Eh, and if you manage to travel in time boy..... do remember to choose the sixties...you hippy you. jeff On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 12:47 PM, David Powell wrote: > Quoting Jeff Lynch : > > I shan't...but mayhaps Ted might (will)? do a report for David....re our >> mighty con? >> > > PLEASE???????? > > > ps Ted has vanished in the murk of Melbourne somewhere. >> > > Sounds suspicious .... the underbelly of Melbourne eh? > > cheers, > Ye Editor > > -- > Australian Linedance website of the year: Tamworth 2005,2007,2008,2009 > http://roots-boots.net mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net > The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for it > to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its > own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies > > > > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at tolharndor.org > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com Tue Sep 7 08:59:47 2010 From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 08:59:47 +1000 Subject: [TolHarndor] Tolkien Seminar In-Reply-To: <6C992BF6C9B94BB5AED21CE4FA8F21AB@Michael> References: <4C6D053F.9060001@roots-boots.net> <6C992BF6C9B94BB5AED21CE4FA8F21AB@Michael> Message-ID: Und so I took the media stuff back to ArdenSt mitout incident and the mooch of post con life goes on.....MA Annette Hanson (editor extrorinaire) gae my Berggie Two a reounding 'good read assessment....tis promising. Now the short version of the con A Short Odyssey Tol Harndor is so blessed with genius To travel the ways of Odyssseus. Elises' mythos was damn wunderbar Und Mike's reading of pious themes Would assuredly take you far If you are like that your dreams. But I ain't And that's what you get when you are a Saint. And Ted had them rolling with his journey, he. Would have strife with the JRRT's estate's attorney. The young ladies impressed with all of youth's best, While Angus seemed not alone among Argonauts Of the Three Rings, and who have I missed as I rave .... The Poms all got pissed and it's odd but I confess Jeffrey Brian remained mainly so well behaved. by jeff lynch From krenon at y7mail.com Wed Sep 8 09:34:03 2010 From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 16:34:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [TolHarndor] Tolkien Seminar In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <580355.41027.qm@web36701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Report coming - when I've checked through the 800+ emails that came while I was away. Also a report on the Tolkien panels at Aussiecon (of which there were several). Elise was at Aussiecon - she may add to my experiences. --- On Fri, 3/9/10, Jeff Lynch wrote: I shan't...but mayhaps Ted might (will)? do a report for David....re our mighty con? jeff ps Ted has vanished in the murk of Melbourne somewhere. jeff From krenon at y7mail.com Wed Sep 8 10:53:34 2010 From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 17:53:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [TolHarndor] Speaking of Odysseys ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <749407.84084.qm@web36701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Jeff I didn't get any email while in Melbourne. Home today. Do you still want me to ring you? --- On Fri, 27/8/10, Jeff Lynch wrote: Ted ring me..... 0422809728 jeff From krenon at y7mail.com Wed Sep 8 10:58:59 2010 From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 17:58:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [TolHarndor] Speaking of Odysseys ... In-Reply-To: <581354.14071.qm@web24608.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <338011.2955.qm@web36705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Elise. I didn't get any email while in Melbourne and I'm just home today. Did you get to any of the Tolkien oriented panels at Aussiecon? I was at three. No sure how many there were altogether. More later. --- On Fri, 27/8/10, dryad wrote: Hi Ted, ? Arrived from Florida USA yesterday after 10am local time after a 2-day travel. Left sunny FLA on Tuesday at 6pm-ish. ? Currently in Ballarat foraging for something tasty for brekkie. :)? Staying with a friend, a Tolkien fan and excellent writer as well, hence the reason for Ballarat. Weather has been quite English. :) ? See everyone tomorrow! :)? Michael, will send bio in a bit. Doing last min updates to ppoint --what version do u have on your computer or the computer that will be available? Elise From krenon at y7mail.com Wed Sep 8 11:17:34 2010 From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 18:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [TolHarndor] Tolkien Seminar In-Reply-To: <6C992BF6C9B94BB5AED21CE4FA8F21AB@Michael> Message-ID: <844502.67926.qm@web36706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> It's true that I used a light hearted style of writing but, despite what you might think, I did not deliberately put in jokes. However, if it was entertaining that was what I was aiming for. Sorry to read about Meredith's "flue" (sic - I guess she's exhausted :). I hope her condition continues to improve. Was this H5N1 or H1N1, or some other strain? Ros and I had a "wide spectrum" flu vaccination several months ago and neither of us has contracted flu since but Ros had a cold for a while in July. ? --- On Sun, 29/8/10, Michael Kennedy wrote: Hi All, Just a quick note so say how pleased I was with the Seminar yesterday. Ted's presentation was predictably entertaining and almost certainly produced the greatest number of chuckles! Jeff, thanks again for your help on the ground. It was great to see Karen and Angus there too. I had to return home last night instead of today because Meredith ended up in hospital due to the flue which is set to peak here in the next two weeks. We suspect she picked it up in Fiji, or somewhere in transit. After a generous infusion of various substances, she is now home and resting comfortably, and will have to do so for the rest of the week. I look forward to hearing how dinner at 'Trotters' went. Michael From krenon at y7mail.com Wed Sep 8 11:26:54 2010 From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 18:26:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [TolHarndor] Tolkien Seminar In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <56113.4431.qm@web36701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Sorry, Jeff. I was tired and Ros was suffering from a problem she has with her knees. I know that has not much to do with eating but she didn't want to go out. --- On Mon, 30/8/10, Jeff Lynch wrote: Michael.... so glad to hear that the elf is home again. Dinner at Trotters. A great success........several....most notably the Anglos had Odysseys getting there but Elise also did much the same....they came up the stairs puffing after walking so many blocks. But with Hobbit like condiderations the dinner was a great success....wine....great food... bulldust...(mit much literary talk to leaven it all)....more wine more bulldust an dbookspeak...there was much bookspeak.... All seemed to glow with the night PS Ted and Ros did not make it...I saw him nodding a bit before I took him to the Motel? I DEPARTED TIRED BUT ALSO GLOWING...A GREAT DAY ALL ROUND. JEFF From krenon at y7mail.com Wed Sep 8 11:31:18 2010 From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 18:31:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [TolHarndor] Speaking of Odysseys ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <250284.22947.qm@web36707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Where's that umlaut key when you want it? :) I failed to recognise Elise when she turned up at Aussiecon4. Forgot that she was coming to it. --- On Mon, 30/8/10, Jeff Lynch wrote: Fur Elise, It was great to see (and hear) you on the weekend encore. I will never make the same errror....not picking you out again in a crowd. Love jeff PS ..travel safely Elise From krenon at y7mail.com Wed Sep 8 11:43:51 2010 From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 18:43:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [TolHarndor] Tolkien Seminar In-Reply-To: <4C7B5248.5010702@roots-boots.net> Message-ID: <764829.29016.qm@web36705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Can do. I hope to add a bit about the Tolkien panels I caught at Aussiecon4. --- On Mon, 30/8/10, Marayong wrote: Sounds like you folk had an enjoyable & fruitful time down there. I was stuck at a rather so-so engagement party ... one of those events you have to go to but since you know almost no-one, end sup a rather unmemorable event. Oh well ... If people would like to send me material from their presentations and/or reviews/thoughts on the moot, I can add them to the pile for the next issue of Tilkal .. and maybe have enuf stuff for the next issue. From krenon at y7mail.com Wed Sep 8 12:12:26 2010 From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 19:12:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [TolHarndor] Matchstick Minas Tirith In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <125018.42012.qm@web36707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I'd rather circumnavigate Titan :) --- On Wed, 1/9/10, Peter Wilkin wrote: Hi folks, Something to do on a rainy day when you're bored.. http://www.geekologie.com/2010/08/one_ring_flame_to_rule_ruin_th.php P From krenon at y7mail.com Wed Sep 8 12:15:17 2010 From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 19:15:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [TolHarndor] Tolkien Seminar In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <185704.32263.qm@web36701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I don't think that hobbits could have played cricket. The moment that they tried to obtain some willow for the bat, they would be trapped between the roots and squeezed to death. --- On Wed, 1/9/10, Jeff Lynch wrote: Ok anything.....in two parts coming soon....to ya desk. Followed In a few days..... by (the next) two parts of THE SHIRE CRICKET CHRONICLES written by one Bungo Willowbottom...Hon Sec for THE SHIRE CRICKET ASSOCIATION. From krenon at y7mail.com Wed Sep 8 13:02:49 2010 From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 20:02:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [TolHarndor] Tolkien Seminar In-Reply-To: <20100903124712.1xpgz9u6qa680w4c@roots-boots.net> Message-ID: <894004.26868.qm@web36706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> What's "our mighty con"? The Tolkien seminar or Aussiecon 4? I presume the latter. As Deep Thought said: "I'll have to think about it". Fact is: on Sunday we went to Williamstown by bus and then back to the City by boat. On Monday we went on a Yarra Valley winery tour and on Tuesday we went to the Zoo. On wet Wednesday we wandered around the city and on Thursday we made the change of accommodation so as to be near the venue of Aussiecon 4. Should I go on? --- On Fri, 3/9/10, David Powell wrote: Quoting Jeff Lynch : > I shan't...but mayhaps Ted might (will)? do a report for David....re our > mighty con? PLEASE???????? > ps Ted has vanished in the murk of Melbourne somewhere. Sounds suspicious .... the underbelly of Melbourne eh? cheers, Ye Editor From krenon at y7mail.com Wed Sep 8 13:23:18 2010 From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 20:23:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [TolHarndor] Tolkien Seminar In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <565097.83095.qm@web36707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Ah Jeff! A regular part of our lives has now become visiting the Ivanhoe Hotel (one of Blackheath's two pubs) on every second Saturday afternoon for three hours of jazz by the Mountain Jazz Trio. They have on occasion played "Straight No Chaser", a simple blues written by Thelonious Monk. It takes me back to the 60's, specifically 1965, when Monk toured Australia and I heard/saw him in Sydney. The 1964 folk boom was mildly interesting but the 60's will stand out most in my mind for having discovered jazz then. Which reminds me: somewhere in Melbourne there sings a lady of uncertain age but wonderful voice named Ani Clyde. She once visited Blackheath and sang one night at the Ivanhoe but she lives and sings somewhere in Melbourne and we didn't get around to finding out where she was let alone hear her. If you ever meet her ask her if she remembers Ted and Ros from Blackheath. Remind her that I recalled the first name of that famous South American composer Astor Piazzolla (she couldn't remember it but she does some of his songs). --- On Sat, 4/9/10, Jeff Lynch wrote: No Ted was never made for 'underbelly'.... He will now be 'lurking' yes I like him lurking among? the other 'usual suspects' of the sci fiction world. Alien as they all are to the heart beats of our world...good luck Ted....wherever you might be. Eh, and if you manage to travel in time boy..... do remember to choose the sixties...you hippy you. jeff From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com Thu Sep 9 08:43:17 2010 From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 08:43:17 +1000 Subject: [TolHarndor] Tolkien Seminar In-Reply-To: <185704.32263.qm@web36701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <185704.32263.qm@web36701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Oh Ted that's good crack of the willow...if a little forced on the offside perhaps...well not quite OFF maybe....but it's not on either. ....be careful with your funnies too tho' Ted...one cn always get caught out you know. (In slips!) jeff PS Michael ...encore what is the one rule (for getting out in Cricket )....that occurrs when the batsman's not there....I do not mean at wicket....but NOT ON THE GROUND! jeffreyB...... On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Edwin Scribner wrote: > I don't think that hobbits could have played cricket. The moment that they > tried to obtain some willow for the bat, they would be trapped between the > roots and squeezed to death. > > --- On Wed, 1/9/10, Jeff Lynch wrote: > > > > Ok anything.....in two parts coming soon....to ya desk. > Followed In a few days..... by (the next) two parts of THE SHIRE CRICKET > CHRONICLES > written by one Bungo Willowbottom...Hon Sec for THE SHIRE CRICKET > ASSOCIATION. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at tolharndor.org > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > From krenon at y7mail.com Thu Sep 9 11:34:25 2010 From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 18:34:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [TolHarndor] Tolkien Seminar In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <700781.23891.qm@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> No ball (: --- On Thu, 9/9/10, Jeff Lynch wrote: Oh Ted that's good crack of the willow...if a little forced on the offside perhaps...well not quite OFF maybe....but it's not on either. ....be careful with your funnies too tho' Ted...one cn always get caught out you know. (In slips!) jeff PS Michael ...encore what is the one rule (for getting out in Cricket )....that occurrs when the batsman's not there....I do not mean at wicket....but NOT ON THE GROUND! jeffreyB...... On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Edwin Scribner wrote: > I don't think that hobbits could have played cricket. The moment that they > tried to obtain some willow for the bat, they would be trapped between the > roots and squeezed to death. From mlk at activ8.net.au Thu Sep 9 19:58:54 2010 From: mlk at activ8.net.au (Michael Kennedy) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 19:58:54 +1000 Subject: [TolHarndor] Tolkien Seminar In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm stumped! > -----Original Message----- > From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list- > bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Lynch > Sent: Thursday, 9 September 2010 8:43 AM > To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society > Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Tolkien Seminar > > Oh Ted that's good crack of the willow...if a little forced on > the offside > perhaps...well not quite OFF maybe....but it's not on either. > ....be careful with your funnies too tho' Ted...one cn always > get caught > out you know. > (In slips!) > jeff > PS Michael ...encore what is the one rule (for getting out in > Cricket > )....that occurrs when the batsman's not there....I do not mean > at > wicket....but NOT ON THE GROUND! > jeffreyB...... > On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Edwin Scribner > wrote: > > > I don't think that hobbits could have played cricket. The > moment that they > > tried to obtain some willow for the bat, they would be > trapped between the > > roots and squeezed to death. > > > > --- On Wed, 1/9/10, Jeff Lynch > wrote: > > > > > > > > Ok anything.....in two parts coming soon....to ya desk. > > Followed In a few days..... by (the next) two parts of THE > SHIRE CRICKET > > CHRONICLES > > written by one Bungo Willowbottom...Hon Sec for THE SHIRE > CRICKET > > ASSOCIATION. > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > List mailing list > > List at tolharndor.org > > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > > > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at tolharndor.org > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > > _______________________________________________________________ > _______ > This email has been scanned by the Activ8me Email Security > System. > _______________________________________________________________ > _______ From mlk at activ8.net.au Thu Sep 9 19:58:54 2010 From: mlk at activ8.net.au (Michael Kennedy) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 19:58:54 +1000 Subject: [TolHarndor] Tolkien Seminar In-Reply-To: <844502.67926.qm@web36706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <41BB4AB0FB354DB68D70A954AF7F2E44@Michael> A nasty flue can sometimes be worse than a nasty flu! :-) Merrie is much better now but they suspect (they don't know) it was a strain of the swine flu picked up during our trip to or back from Fiji. > -----Original Message----- > From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list- > bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Edwin Scribner > Sent: Wednesday, 8 September 2010 11:18 AM > To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society > Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Tolkien Seminar > > It's true that I used a light hearted style of writing but, > despite what you might think, I did not deliberately put in > jokes. However, if it was entertaining that was what I was > aiming for. > > Sorry to read about Meredith's "flue" (sic - I guess she's > exhausted :). I hope her condition continues to improve. Was > this H5N1 or H1N1, or some other strain? Ros and I had a "wide > spectrum" flu vaccination several months ago and neither of us > has contracted flu since but Ros had a cold for a while in July. > > --- On Sun, 29/8/10, Michael Kennedy wrote: > > > Hi All, > > Just a quick note so say how pleased I was with the Seminar > yesterday. Ted's > presentation was predictably entertaining and almost certainly > produced the > greatest number of chuckles! > > Jeff, thanks again for your help on the ground. It was great to > see Karen > and Angus there too. > > I had to return home last night instead of today because > Meredith ended up > in hospital due to the flue which is set to peak here in the > next two weeks. > We suspect she picked it up in Fiji, or somewhere in transit. > After a > generous infusion of various substances, she is now home and > resting > comfortably, and will have to do so for the rest of the week. > > I look forward to hearing how dinner at 'Trotters' went. > > Michael > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at tolharndor.org > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > > _______________________________________________________________ > _______ > This email has been scanned by the Activ8me Email Security > System. > _______________________________________________________________ > _______ From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com Fri Sep 10 08:46:11 2010 From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:46:11 +1000 Subject: [TolHarndor] Tolkien Seminar In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Answer is...( Cricket out when batsman is not present).... IS failure to appear at wicket...pub's being vv close to grounds (in Britain) meant that some cricketer's might get lost...err pissed..etc...failure to appear at w...is A RULE! jeff On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Michael Kennedy wrote: > I'm stumped! > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list- > > bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Lynch > > Sent: Thursday, 9 September 2010 8:43 AM > > To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society > > Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Tolkien Seminar > > > > Oh Ted that's good crack of the willow...if a little forced on > > the offside > > perhaps...well not quite OFF maybe....but it's not on either. > > ....be careful with your funnies too tho' Ted...one cn always > > get caught > > out you know. > > (In slips!) > > jeff > > PS Michael ...encore what is the one rule (for getting out in > > Cricket > > )....that occurrs when the batsman's not there....I do not mean > > at > > wicket....but NOT ON THE GROUND! > > jeffreyB...... > > On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Edwin Scribner > > wrote: > > > > > I don't think that hobbits could have played cricket. The > > moment that they > > > tried to obtain some willow for the bat, they would be > > trapped between the > > > roots and squeezed to death. > > > > > > --- On Wed, 1/9/10, Jeff Lynch > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok anything.....in two parts coming soon....to ya desk. > > > Followed In a few days..... by (the next) two parts of THE > > SHIRE CRICKET > > > CHRONICLES > > > written by one Bungo Willowbottom...Hon Sec for THE SHIRE > > CRICKET > > > ASSOCIATION. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > List mailing list > > > List at tolharndor.org > > > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > List mailing list > > List at tolharndor.org > > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > > > > _______________________________________________________________ > > _______ > > This email has been scanned by the Activ8me Email Security > > System. > > _______________________________________________________________ > > _______ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at tolharndor.org > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com Fri Sep 10 08:50:58 2010 From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:50:58 +1000 Subject: [TolHarndor] Tolkien Seminar In-Reply-To: <41BB4AB0FB354DB68D70A954AF7F2E44@Michael> References: <844502.67926.qm@web36706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <41BB4AB0FB354DB68D70A954AF7F2E44@Michael> Message-ID: Flue being nasty....Michael are you talking about the rejected lover in America who got stuck in the flue.......she was attempting to raid her ex loer's house?????? jeff ps...she died in there! On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Michael Kennedy wrote: > A nasty flue can sometimes be worse than a nasty flu! :-) > > Merrie is much better now but they suspect (they don't know) it was a > strain > of the swine flu picked up during our trip to or back from Fiji. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list- > > bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Edwin Scribner > > Sent: Wednesday, 8 September 2010 11:18 AM > > To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society > > Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Tolkien Seminar > > > > It's true that I used a light hearted style of writing but, > > despite what you might think, I did not deliberately put in > > jokes. However, if it was entertaining that was what I was > > aiming for. > > > > Sorry to read about Meredith's "flue" (sic - I guess she's > > exhausted :). I hope her condition continues to improve. Was > > this H5N1 or H1N1, or some other strain? Ros and I had a "wide > > spectrum" flu vaccination several months ago and neither of us > > has contracted flu since but Ros had a cold for a while in July. > > > > --- On Sun, 29/8/10, Michael Kennedy wrote: > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > Just a quick note so say how pleased I was with the Seminar > > yesterday. Ted's > > presentation was predictably entertaining and almost certainly > > produced the > > greatest number of chuckles! > > > > Jeff, thanks again for your help on the ground. It was great to > > see Karen > > and Angus there too. > > > > I had to return home last night instead of today because > > Meredith ended up > > in hospital due to the flue which is set to peak here in the > > next two weeks. > > We suspect she picked it up in Fiji, or somewhere in transit. > > After a > > generous infusion of various substances, she is now home and > > resting > > comfortably, and will have to do so for the rest of the week. > > > > I look forward to hearing how dinner at 'Trotters' went. > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > List mailing list > > List at tolharndor.org > > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > > > > _______________________________________________________________ > > _______ > > This email has been scanned by the Activ8me Email Security > > System. > > _______________________________________________________________ > > _______ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at tolharndor.org > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com Sat Sep 11 08:49:57 2010 From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 08:49:57 +1000 Subject: [TolHarndor] Tolkien Seminar In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: THh New Weather, As we all know folks get sick of the weather.....so...... Direct to you (almost for nothing) comes...da, da...THE NEW WEATHER. Starting tomorrow...we will all experience NEW WEATHER.... err if you do not like it...ummmm you might pray for the old one to return...I dunno if that works or not.? jeff. PS ....for David....How can I most easliy publisize THE BEGGEIST LETTERS on the net? jbl From krenon at y7mail.com Sat Sep 11 09:51:06 2010 From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:51:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [TolHarndor] Tolkien Seminar In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <227553.38310.qm@web36701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Some people say that Melbourne is cold. Anyone who had been in Melbourne for a few days then come with us to Blackheath would need to revise their evaluation of Melbourne weather. PS we both had a really nice day last Tuesday week doing a tour of Yarra Valley wineries. Wednesday's trip to the Zoo was nice but not as wonderful as I had been led to believe (although it's definitely better than Sydney's zoo). --- On Sat, 11/9/10, Jeff Lynch wrote: THh New Weather, As we all? know folks get sick of the weather.....so...... Direct to you (almost for nothing) comes...da, da...THE NEW WEATHER. Starting tomorrow...we will all experience NEW WEATHER.... err if you do not like it...ummmm you might pray for the old one to return...I dunno if that works or not.? jeff. PS ....for David....How can I most easliy publisize THE BEGGEIST LETTERS on the net? jbl From mlk at activ8.net.au Sat Sep 11 13:38:37 2010 From: mlk at activ8.net.au (Michael Kennedy) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 13:38:37 +1000 Subject: [TolHarndor] Tolkien Seminar In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <61BA9FA3223140A5B6032C6B238F43B0@Michael> Yes Jeff. I was alluding to that recent story. What someone will do for love. > -----Original Message----- > From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list- > bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Lynch > Sent: Friday, 10 September 2010 8:51 AM > To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society > Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Tolkien Seminar > > Flue being nasty....Michael are you talking about the rejected > lover in > America who got stuck in the flue.......she was attempting to > raid her ex > loer's house?????? > jeff > ps...she died in there! > On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Michael Kennedy > wrote: > > > A nasty flue can sometimes be worse than a nasty flu! :-) > > > > Merrie is much better now but they suspect (they don't know) > it was a > > strain > > of the swine flu picked up during our trip to or back from > Fiji. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list- > > > bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Edwin Scribner > > > Sent: Wednesday, 8 September 2010 11:18 AM > > > To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society > > > Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Tolkien Seminar > > > > > > It's true that I used a light hearted style of writing but, > > > despite what you might think, I did not deliberately put in > > > jokes. However, if it was entertaining that was what I was > > > aiming for. > > > > > > Sorry to read about Meredith's "flue" (sic - I guess she's > > > exhausted :). I hope her condition continues to improve. > Was > > > this H5N1 or H1N1, or some other strain? Ros and I had a > "wide > > > spectrum" flu vaccination several months ago and neither of > us > > > has contracted flu since but Ros had a cold for a while in > July. > > > > > > --- On Sun, 29/8/10, Michael Kennedy > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > Just a quick note so say how pleased I was with the Seminar > > > yesterday. Ted's > > > presentation was predictably entertaining and almost > certainly > > > produced the > > > greatest number of chuckles! > > > > > > Jeff, thanks again for your help on the ground. It was > great to > > > see Karen > > > and Angus there too. > > > > > > I had to return home last night instead of today because > > > Meredith ended up > > > in hospital due to the flue which is set to peak here in > the > > > next two weeks. > > > We suspect she picked it up in Fiji, or somewhere in > transit. > > > After a > > > generous infusion of various substances, she is now home > and > > > resting > > > comfortably, and will have to do so for the rest of the > week. > > > > > > I look forward to hearing how dinner at 'Trotters' went. > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > List mailing list > > > List at tolharndor.org > > > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > > > > > > > _______________________________________________________________ > > > _______ > > > This email has been scanned by the Activ8me Email Security > > > System. > > > > _______________________________________________________________ > > > _______ > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > List mailing list > > List at tolharndor.org > > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > > > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at tolharndor.org > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org From dragon at roots-boots.net Mon Sep 13 12:51:28 2010 From: dragon at roots-boots.net (David Powell) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 12:51:28 +1000 Subject: [TolHarndor] Back up ... hopefully Message-ID: <20100913125128.980qkmq1gc0k4kc8@roots-boots.net> Hi folks, The list should be back up now. At least the website is now showing up here at work & if that's up the list should be up. If you get this, it should be working and you can resend anything since 11th Sept that bounced. The last post that got thru' was Michael's on sat at 1:38pm. It was archived, so I assume it got out to the list as well. Anything more recent than that has been, well, eaten by the net orcs .. or the net elves, depending on which side of that fence one was standing. :) cheers, David -- Australian Linedance website of the year: Tamworth 2005,2007,2008,2009 http://roots-boots.net mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for it to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies From krenon at y7mail.com Mon Sep 13 18:44:40 2010 From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 01:44:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [TolHarndor] You probably don't want to see this but ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <899385.76755.qm@web36701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uE-1RPDqJAY&feature=youtube_gdata_player From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com Tue Sep 14 08:43:08 2010 From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 08:43:08 +1000 Subject: [TolHarndor] Back up ... hopefully In-Reply-To: <20100913125128.980qkmq1gc0k4kc8@roots-boots.net> References: <20100913125128.980qkmq1gc0k4kc8@roots-boots.net> Message-ID: David. I'm kinda sending a question directed to you afore (by moi) what could I do (online) to publicise my Berggie Volume One....I'm still to find a publisher for the Second Volume! jeff from SB. From krenon at y7mail.com Tue Sep 14 08:48:00 2010 From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 15:48:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [TolHarndor] Back up ... hopefully In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <834243.13501.qm@web36707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Sail non-stop around the world, then write a book about it and plug both books together. :) (but give the book a catchier title than Chichester's "The Lonely Sea and the Sky") --- On Tue, 14/9/10, Jeff Lynch wrote: David. I'm kinda sending a question directed to you afore (by moi) what could I do (online) to publicise my Berggie Volume One....I'm still to find a publisher for the Second Volume! jeff from SB. From pwilkin37 at gmail.com Tue Sep 14 12:15:40 2010 From: pwilkin37 at gmail.com (Peter Wilkin) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:15:40 +1000 Subject: [TolHarndor] You probably don't want to see this but ... In-Reply-To: <899385.76755.qm@web36701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <899385.76755.qm@web36701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thanks, Tedd - I love it! p On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Edwin Scribner wrote: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uE-1RPDqJAY&feature=youtube_gdata_player > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at tolharndor.org > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > From krenon at y7mail.com Tue Sep 14 12:34:04 2010 From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 19:34:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [TolHarndor] You probably don't want to see this but ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <794420.88314.qm@web36706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> You should be ashamed of yourself! :) PS was that "Cymrification" of my name deliberate? --- On Tue, 14/9/10, Peter Wilkin wrote: Thanks, Tedd - I love it! From pwilkin37 at gmail.com Tue Sep 14 14:47:05 2010 From: pwilkin37 at gmail.com (Peter Wilkin) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 14:47:05 +1000 Subject: [TolHarndor] You probably don't want to see this but ... In-Reply-To: <794420.88314.qm@web36706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <794420.88314.qm@web36706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ha! No it wasn't! Just don't tell anyone I'm doing a phd in English :) And what does Cymrification mean? Since we're on Youtube - have you seen this excellent take on LotR on 'How it Should Have Ended'? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yqVD0swvWU&feature=related Also, along the same lines as Ted's original link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B2LPxggvqY&feature=related Yours in procrastination, P On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Edwin Scribner wrote: > You should be ashamed of yourself! :) > > PS was that "Cymrification" of my name deliberate? > > --- On Tue, 14/9/10, Peter Wilkin wrote: > > Thanks, Tedd - I love it! > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at tolharndor.org > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > From dragon at roots-boots.net Tue Sep 14 17:50:04 2010 From: dragon at roots-boots.net (Marayong) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:50:04 +1000 Subject: [TolHarndor] You probably don't want to see this but ... In-Reply-To: References: <794420.88314.qm@web36706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C8F292C.9060502@roots-boots.net> Peter Wilkin wrote: > Ha! No it wasn't! Just don't tell anyone I'm doing a phd in English :) That's ok .. you are *doing* it rather than *have* one. You're still using training wheels. :) > And what does Cymrification mean? Surely it meals pseudo-Welsh? Ie the name is changed slightly to make it sound Welsh (ie Cymr). > Since we're on Youtube - have you seen this excellent take on LotR on 'How > it Should Have Ended'? I have now. It would certainly have made for a much shorter story .. a novella perhaps? cheers, David -- Line dancing, Genealogy, Travel, Photography, Local history & more! http://roots-boots.net mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for it to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies From dragon at roots-boots.net Tue Sep 14 21:41:16 2010 From: dragon at roots-boots.net (Marayong) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:41:16 +1000 Subject: [TolHarndor] Back up ... hopefully In-Reply-To: References: <20100913125128.980qkmq1gc0k4kc8@roots-boots.net> Message-ID: <4C8F5F5C.1060300@roots-boots.net> G'day Jeff, > I'm kinda sending a question directed to you afore (by moi) what could I do > (online) to publicise my Berggie Volume One....I'm still to find a publisher > for the Second Volume! 10 years ago I'd recommend the usenet groups ... these days ... I don't know. Post 'adverts' on various online blogs maybe? Surely the lady helping you can come up with some suggestions there? cheers, David -- Line dancing, Genealogy, Travel, Photography, Local history & more! http://roots-boots.net mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for it to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies From krenon at y7mail.com Wed Sep 15 06:41:42 2010 From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 13:41:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [TolHarndor] You probably don't want to see this but ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <861171.67622.qm@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> You've just told everyone on Tol Harndor for the second time but I won't mention it if it embarrasses you :) Cymrification meant, for me anyway, to convert a word or phrase into something that makes it look Welsh. I consider that making Tedd out of Ted is doing that - of course you would pronounce the dd like an untongued th. No, I haven't seen that (alternative end of LotR). I suppose I'd better take a look at it ::sigh:: --- On Tue, 14/9/10, Peter Wilkin wrote: Ha! No it wasn't! Just don't tell anyone I'm doing a phd in English :) And what does Cymrification mean? Since we're on Youtube - have you seen this excellent take on LotR on 'How it Should Have Ended'? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yqVD0swvWU&feature=related Also, along the same lines as Ted's original link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B2LPxggvqY&feature=related Yours in procrastination, P On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Edwin Scribner wrote: > You should be ashamed of yourself! :) > > PS was that "Cymrification" of my name deliberate? > > --- On Tue, 14/9/10, Peter Wilkin wrote: > > Thanks, Tedd - I love it! > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at tolharndor.org > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > _______________________________________________ List mailing list List at tolharndor.org http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com Wed Sep 15 08:57:48 2010 From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 08:57:48 +1000 Subject: [TolHarndor] Back up ... hopefully In-Reply-To: <4C8F5F5C.1060300@roots-boots.net> References: <20100913125128.980qkmq1gc0k4kc8@roots-boots.net> <4C8F5F5C.1060300@roots-boots.net> Message-ID: Yeah ...the lady.....prob a real good idea...I will ask both the lady and the guy....by the name of Kerry Collison Tanks Davy ... jeff On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 9:41 PM, Marayong wrote: > G'day Jeff, > > > I'm kinda sending a question directed to you afore (by moi) what could I do >> (online) to publicise my Berggie Volume One....I'm still to find a >> publisher >> for the Second Volume! >> > > 10 years ago I'd recommend the usenet groups ... these days ... I don't > know. Post 'adverts' on various online blogs maybe? Surely the lady helping > you can come up with some suggestions there? > > cheers, > David > -- > Line dancing, Genealogy, Travel, Photography, Local history & more! > > http://roots-boots.net mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net > The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for it > to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its > own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies > > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at tolharndor.org > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com Wed Sep 15 09:04:44 2010 From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 09:04:44 +1000 Subject: [TolHarndor] You probably don't want to see this but ... In-Reply-To: <861171.67622.qm@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <861171.67622.qm@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi and there is nothing AT ALL false Welsh about Tedd. He speaks with the tongues of (fighting) dragons.and bliees in strange (sci fi) things. He has an innate abilty to identify with Anglo Saxon and evven older cultures without ant shades of doubt...if anyone else did it youwould notbelive it! I do with Tedd......And I have spent some time in Wales...Not the least in the village of Beddgelert.....300 souls in the district of Gwynedd...under the shadow of Great Y Wyffa....otherwise known as Mount Snowdon....... Tedd for the next Welsh Prince....not in that blasted 'German line tho' mit bonnie I do not think Prince Charlie and all his other whorish and most un morish line... Jeff From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com Fri Sep 17 12:32:07 2010 From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:32:07 +1000 Subject: [TolHarndor] Tolkien Seminar In-Reply-To: <61BA9FA3223140A5B6032C6B238F43B0@Michael> References: <61BA9FA3223140A5B6032C6B238F43B0@Michael> Message-ID: Hi all, I know I bore folk by telling (almost ) all...but here goes...more on writing...(mine). Besides recommending you all to read the CRICKET IN SHIRE story by moi...that is (in Tilkal...coming v soon). I wrote to Puncher and Wattman (publishers).....re my Volume 2 of DER Berggie...a David replied. He did invite me to submit a part of VOl 2 to him!. But ..there is more...Amazingly....I told him that I'd been in the Tyrol this year.......und he had too....at same time near enow....Odd eh? Dat's all...der weather? You don't wanna know! love jeff. From krenon at y7mail.com Fri Sep 17 12:53:29 2010 From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 19:53:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [TolHarndor] Tolkien Seminar In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <978487.29184.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Jeff, Despite a certain scepticism about it, I will read your story on cricket in the Shire when it appears. However, what do the Hobbits do in the winter? Football of some code? --- On Fri, 17/9/10, Jeff Lynch wrote: Hi all, I know I bore folk by telling (almost ) all...but here goes...more on writing...(mine). Besides recommending you all to read the CRICKET IN SHIRE story by moi...that is (in Tilkal...coming v soon). I wrote to Puncher and Wattman (publishers).....re my Volume 2 of DER Berggie...a David replied. He did invite me to submit a part of VOl 2 to him!. But ..there is more...Amazingly....I told him that I'd been in the Tyrol this year.......und he had too....at same time near enow....Odd eh? Dat's all...der weather? You don't wanna know! love jeff. From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com Sat Sep 18 08:53:13 2010 From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 08:53:13 +1000 Subject: [TolHarndor] Tolkien Seminar In-Reply-To: <978487.29184.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <978487.29184.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: No Ted...... They never discovered any of the other forms of the leathers. Anyhow we all know that even a mild form of it...say a game of soccer, would not suit a Hobbit. They need MORE ARCANE games than that! PS...I welcome ya scepticism. PPS...also watch for a small piece I am also giving to David..... a man who woks for one of the Visigoth Emperors writes to a friend....turns out his friend is a Pope......in the marshy days of Ravenna's rule...in dying days of the Roman Empire. Tho' the Pope in question is in Roma. Interest you? jeff On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Edwin Scribner wrote: > Hi Jeff, > > Despite a certain scepticism about it, I will read your story on cricket in > the Shire when it appears. However, what do the Hobbits do in the winter? > Football of some code? > > --- On Fri, 17/9/10, Jeff Lynch wrote: > > Hi all, > I know I bore folk by telling (almost ) all...but here goes...more on > writing...(mine). > Besides recommending you all to read the CRICKET IN SHIRE story by > moi...that is (in Tilkal...coming v soon). > I wrote to Puncher and Wattman (publishers).....re my Volume 2 of DER > Berggie...a David replied. > He did invite me to submit a part of VOl 2 to him!. > But ..there is more...Amazingly....I told him that I'd been in the Tyrol > this year.......und he had too....at same time near enow....Odd eh? > Dat's all...der weather? > You don't wanna know! > love jeff. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at tolharndor.org > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > From krenon at y7mail.com Mon Sep 20 08:10:43 2010 From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 15:10:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [TolHarndor] Tolkien Seminar In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <304212.39094.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> At any rate they did have leather. I can see them wanting to kick something. Btw on another forum (actually Facebook) some person who claims to have knowledge said that Peter Jackson had given up the idea of making a movie to follow The Hobbit and writing the story to bridge the gap between The Hobbit and LotR. Instead he proposes to make two movies out of The Hobbit. It strikes me that (a) he would need to spin it out, and that probably means that (b) he would introduce people and events not in the original. Chances are high that he would introduce women. --- On Sat, 18/9/10, Jeff Lynch wrote: No Ted...... They never discovered any of the other forms of the leathers. Anyhow we all know that even a? mild form of it...say a game of soccer, would not suit a Hobbit. They need MORE ARCANE games than that! PS...I welcome ya scepticism. PPS...also watch for a small piece I am also giving to David..... a man who woks for one of the Visigoth Emperors writes to a friend....turns out his friend is a Pope......in the marshy days of Ravenna's rule...in dying days of the Roman Empire. Tho' the Pope in question is in Roma. Interest you? jeff From dragon at roots-boots.net Mon Sep 20 17:00:37 2010 From: dragon at roots-boots.net (Marayong) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 17:00:37 +1000 Subject: [TolHarndor] Tolkien Seminar In-Reply-To: <304212.39094.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <304212.39094.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C970695.1080500@roots-boots.net> Edwin Scribner wrote: > At any rate they did have leather. I can see them wanting to kick something. Their vertically challenged stature would seem to suggest otherwise. I've heard of the claim that they played golf, although whether that is canon or a scurrilous rumour I can't tell. Perhaps they played some variety of lawn bowls? Their vertically challenged stature would not be an impediment there. If they did play some form of football then it would have to of course be rugby. Not, mind you, that I am a fan of any sport involving teams of borderline sapient, semi-devolved Homo stupidius throwing and/or kicking a leather ball around a field whilst doing their best to beat the stuffing out of each other ... generally members of the opposing team, but not exclusively so. > Btw on another forum (actually Facebook) some person who claims to have > knowledge said that Peter Jackson had given up the idea of making a movie > to follow The Hobbit and writing the story to bridge the gap between The > Hobbit and LotR. Instead he proposes to make two movies out of The Hobbit. > It strikes me that > (a) he would need to spin it out, and that probably means that > (b) he would introduce people and events not in the original. Chances are high > that he would introduce women. Making two movies out of TH would certainly require him to play hard & fast with the book. Plus where would one end the first movie? It's not as if TH naturally breaks into two (or more) narratives. Personally I have my doubts the project will ever happen. Oh sure, he's looking into it, but I doubt anything will have come of it. If he leaves too long a gap between LotR and TH then he'll lose any flow on effect in sales from people who've seen LotR not that long ago. Actually, I'd say he's already missed the boat and if he's still making noises it's to stop anyone else making a movie on TH. cheers, David > > --- On Sat, 18/9/10, Jeff Lynch wrote: > > > No Ted...... > They never discovered any of the other forms of the leathers. > Anyhow we all know that even a mild form of it...say a game of soccer, > would not suit a Hobbit. > They need MORE ARCANE games than that! > > PS...I welcome ya scepticism. > PPS...also watch for a small piece I am also giving to David..... a man who > woks for one of the Visigoth Emperors writes to a friend....turns out his > friend is a Pope......in the marshy days of Ravenna's rule...in dying days > of the Roman Empire. Tho' the Pope in question is in Roma. > Interest you? > jeff > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at tolharndor.org > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > -- Line dancing, Genealogy, Travel, Photography, Local history & more! http://roots-boots.net mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for it to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies From dryad0404 at yahoo.co.uk Tue Sep 21 00:02:19 2010 From: dryad0404 at yahoo.co.uk (dryad) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 14:02:19 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [TolHarndor] The Hobbit In-Reply-To: <4C970695.1080500@roots-boots.net> Message-ID: <807021.60446.qm@web24603.mail.ird.yahoo.com> I heard the same about a 'bridging' to get ppl into the Hobbit mode and out of the LotR mode. However, speaking about the breaks in text, actually every chapter has its own rise and fall. I thought the original idea was to make a mini-series over the course of several months or at least every night for 2hrs or so during one week. Guess that is not as lucrative a venture as a full scale movie. Still, a really good place to break between two movies is actually when they are brought to Beorn, just after Bilbo acquires his fancy ring. This is just before the Mirkwood adventure and would be a natural place to break the story imho. Just my thoughts on the matter, Elise --- On Mon, 20/9/10, Marayong wrote: From: Marayong Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Tolkien Seminar To: "Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society" Date: Monday, 20 September, 2010, 3:00 Edwin Scribner wrote: > At any rate they did have leather. I can see them wanting to kick something. Their vertically challenged stature would seem to suggest otherwise. I've heard of the claim that they played golf, although whether that is canon or a scurrilous rumour I can't tell. Perhaps they played some variety of lawn bowls? Their vertically challenged stature would not be an impediment there. If they did play some form of football then it would have to of course be rugby. Not, mind you, that I am a fan of any sport involving teams of borderline sapient, semi-devolved Homo stupidius throwing and/or kicking a leather ball around a field whilst doing their best to beat the stuffing out of each other ... generally members of the opposing team, but not exclusively so. > Btw on another forum (actually Facebook) some person who claims to have > knowledge said that Peter Jackson had given up the idea of making a movie > to follow The Hobbit and writing the story to bridge the gap between The > Hobbit and LotR. Instead he proposes to make two movies out of The Hobbit. > It strikes me that > (a) he would need to spin it out, and that probably means that > (b) he would introduce people and events not in the original. Chances are high > that he would introduce women. Making two movies out of TH would certainly require him to play hard & fast with the book. Plus where would one end the first movie? It's not as if TH naturally breaks into two (or more) narratives. Personally I have my doubts the project will ever happen. Oh sure, he's looking into it, but I doubt anything will have come of it. If he leaves too long a gap between LotR and TH then he'll lose any flow on effect in sales from people who've seen LotR not that long ago. Actually, I'd say he's already missed the boat and if he's still making noises it's to stop anyone else making a movie on TH. cheers, David > > --- On Sat, 18/9/10, Jeff Lynch? wrote: > > > No Ted...... > They never discovered any of the other forms of the leathers. > Anyhow we all know that even a? mild form of it...say a game of soccer, > would not suit a Hobbit. > They need MORE ARCANE games than that! > > PS...I welcome ya scepticism. > PPS...also watch for a small piece I am also giving to David..... a man who > woks for one of the Visigoth Emperors writes to a friend....turns out his > friend is a Pope......in the marshy days of Ravenna's rule...in dying days > of the Roman Empire. Tho' the Pope in question is in Roma. > Interest you? > jeff > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at tolharndor.org > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > -- Line dancing, Genealogy, Travel, Photography, Local history & more! ? ???http://roots-boots.net? ???mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for it to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its ? ? ? ? ? own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies _______________________________________________ List mailing list List at tolharndor.org http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org From krenon at y7mail.com Tue Sep 21 08:04:19 2010 From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 15:04:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [TolHarndor] Tolkien Seminar In-Reply-To: <4C970695.1080500@roots-boots.net> Message-ID: <659990.3887.qm@web36707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The "claim that they played golf" no doubt derived from the tale of Bandobras Took, said to have been the largest hobbit, the only hobbit who could ride a horse as opposed to a hobbit pony. He was said to have knocked the head off an orc called Golfimbul, which head then rolled into a rabbit hole. This was said to have been the beginning of the game of golf. However there is no indication that the hobbits went on with golf in any form after this alleged incident. --- On Mon, 20/9/10, Marayong wrote: Edwin Scribner wrote: > At any rate they did have leather. I can see them wanting to kick something. Their vertically challenged stature would seem to suggest otherwise. I've heard of the claim that they played golf, although whether that is canon or a scurrilous rumour I can't tell. Perhaps they played some variety of lawn bowls? Their vertically challenged stature would not be an impediment there. If they did play some form of football then it would have to of course be rugby. Not, mind you, that I am a fan of any sport involving teams of borderline sapient, semi-devolved Homo stupidius throwing and/or kicking a leather ball around a field whilst doing their best to beat the stuffing out of each other ... generally members of the opposing team, but not exclusively so. From krenon at y7mail.com Tue Sep 21 08:25:23 2010 From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 15:25:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [TolHarndor] The Hobbit In-Reply-To: <807021.60446.qm@web24603.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <636084.9100.qm@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Ah yes! Where Gandalf quaffs a "quart of mead" (or was it two quarts?). I won't be inviting Gandalf to my place in a hurry, although my stocks of mead are pretty good at present. I tried a bottle of 1982 vintage the other night. It's very nice and it hasn't changed noticably in the last decade. Mead keeps forever (if you can restrain yourself and others from drinking it)! --- On Tue, 21/9/10, dryad wrote: Still, a really good place to break between two movies is actually when they are brought to Beorn, just after Bilbo acquires his fancy ring. This is just before the Mirkwood adventure and would be a natural place to break the story imho. From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com Tue Sep 21 08:41:22 2010 From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 08:41:22 +1000 Subject: [TolHarndor] Tolkien Seminar In-Reply-To: <659990.3887.qm@web36707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4C970695.1080500@roots-boots.net> <659990.3887.qm@web36707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Cricket and Footy.... Just came to me that one of the near great drawbacks for either of these gmes involving Hobbits would be The lack of shoes. I MEAN ON THEIR FEET. Have ya ever been hit by a cricket ball on ya toes? And kicking da foody with bare feet aint highly recommended either. But...still and all DO read my cricket piece..it is NOT ALL about cricket. jeff From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com Tue Sep 21 08:42:51 2010 From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 08:42:51 +1000 Subject: [TolHarndor] The Hobbit In-Reply-To: <636084.9100.qm@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <807021.60446.qm@web24603.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <636084.9100.qm@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Question Ted, What might the relationship be tween Mead and Meadow? jeff On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Edwin Scribner wrote: > Ah yes! Where Gandalf quaffs a "quart of mead" (or was it two quarts?). I > won't be inviting Gandalf to my place in a hurry, although my stocks of mead > are pretty good at present. I tried a bottle of 1982 vintage the other > night. It's very nice and it hasn't changed noticably in the last decade. > Mead keeps forever (if you can restrain yourself and others from drinking > it)! > > --- On Tue, 21/9/10, dryad wrote: > Still, a really good place to break between two movies is actually when > they are brought to Beorn, just after Bilbo acquires his fancy ring. This is > just before the Mirkwood adventure and would be a natural place to break the > story imho. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at tolharndor.org > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > From krenon at y7mail.com Tue Sep 21 09:35:38 2010 From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 16:35:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [TolHarndor] The Hobbit In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <434896.41670.qm@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> "Mead" originally meant "meadow" (see, eg, Keats' poem "La Belle Dame Sana Merci"). The word "mead" for fermented honey came, I think, from the word "meath". However I'm not sure what that originally meant. --- On Tue, 21/9/10, Jeff Lynch wrote: Question Ted, What might the relationship be tween Mead and Meadow? jeff From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com Tue Sep 21 12:05:03 2010 From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:05:03 +1000 Subject: [TolHarndor] The Hobbit In-Reply-To: <434896.41670.qm@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <434896.41670.qm@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Well Ted....so long as you know what it meath. jeff On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Edwin Scribner wrote: > "Mead" originally meant "meadow" (see, eg, Keats' poem "La Belle Dame Sana > Merci"). The word "mead" for fermented honey came, I think, from the word > "meath". However I'm not sure what that originally meant. > > --- On Tue, 21/9/10, Jeff Lynch wrote: > > Question Ted, > What might the relationship be tween Mead and Meadow? > jeff > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at tolharndor.org > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > From dragon at roots-boots.net Tue Sep 21 12:32:01 2010 From: dragon at roots-boots.net (David Powell) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:32:01 +1000 Subject: [TolHarndor] The Hobbit In-Reply-To: <434896.41670.qm@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <434896.41670.qm@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20100921123201.ug1lxl9aocgskck0@roots-boots.net> Quoting Edwin Scribner : > "Mead" originally meant "meadow" (see, eg, Keats' poem "La Belle > Dame Sana Merci"). The word "mead" for fermented honey came, I > think, from the word "meath". However I'm not sure what that > originally meant. Peter may correct me since it is more up his line ... From what I can find "Meath" is actually a fairly modern word. As the name for Co Meath in Ireland it is an anglicisation of the gaelic 'Mide', the name given to what is called today the 'Kingdom of Meath' (but known as Mide at the time). 'Mide' is old irish for middle. Thus Mide (and hence Meath) means middle, which is reasonable since the actual translation of the Kingdon of Mide was "The Middle Kingdom".[Various sources] I can find no other meaning for Meath, ancient or modern. By 'fairly modern', I mean the word is less than 400 years old. "The English word mead derives from the Old English medu, from Proto-Germanic meduz."[Wikipedia] Mead itself is the oldest known fermented drink, with archaeological evidence dating back at least 9000 years. So the similarity of Meath & Mead is likely just a coincidence. cheers, David > > --- On Tue, 21/9/10, Jeff Lynch wrote: > > Question Ted, > What might the relationship be tween Mead and Meadow? > jeff > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at tolharndor.org > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > -- Australian Linedance website of the year: Tamworth 2005,2007,2008,2009 http://roots-boots.net mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for it to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies From dragon at roots-boots.net Tue Sep 21 17:15:54 2010 From: dragon at roots-boots.net (Marayong) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:15:54 +1000 Subject: [TolHarndor] Tolkien Seminar In-Reply-To: References: <4C970695.1080500@roots-boots.net> <659990.3887.qm@web36707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C985BAA.2040401@roots-boots.net> Jeff Lynch wrote: > Cricket and Footy.... > Just came to me that one of the near great drawbacks for either of these > gmes involving Hobbits would be > The lack of shoes. > I MEAN ON THEIR FEET. I daresay their peds were a tad tougher than those of the mere homo sapiens peds .. after all they did everything on them with no footwear .. all that walking .. let along what Frodo did on his. No, I'd say they had industrial strength peds, ones that would have made the terminator green with jealousy ... if the Terminator could have turned green of course. A mere ball ... hah .. they'd barely notice it! cheers, David > Have ya ever been hit by a cricket ball on ya toes? > And kicking da foody with bare feet aint highly recommended either. > But...still and all DO read my cricket piece..it is NOT ALL about cricket. > jeff > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at tolharndor.org > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > -- Line dancing, Genealogy, Travel, Photography, Local history & more! http://roots-boots.net mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for it to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies From krenon at y7mail.com Wed Sep 22 07:17:11 2010 From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:17:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [TolHarndor] Happy Birthday Bilbo and Frodo In-Reply-To: <20100921123201.ug1lxl9aocgskck0@roots-boots.net> Message-ID: <154543.57889.qm@web36707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Emma Ayres, who made mention of the Fall of Sauron on 25 March (at my behest but she got it a bit wrong) today mentioned the birthdays of Bilbo and Frodo. I don't know where she got that information but it's welcome. I might, this evening,?re-badge a stubby of VB as "Proper 1420" to toast them. From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com Wed Sep 22 11:16:39 2010 From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 11:16:39 +1000 Subject: [TolHarndor] The Hobbit In-Reply-To: <20100921123201.ug1lxl9aocgskck0@roots-boots.net> References: <434896.41670.qm@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20100921123201.ug1lxl9aocgskck0@roots-boots.net> Message-ID: Hi all...glad I asked tho' gotta say I suspected little or no connection....all interesting . jeff On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:32 PM, David Powell wrote: > Quoting Edwin Scribner : > > "Mead" originally meant "meadow" (see, eg, Keats' poem "La Belle Dame Sana >> Merci"). The word "mead" for fermented honey came, I think, from the word >> "meath". However I'm not sure what that originally meant. >> > > Peter may correct me since it is more up his line ... > > From what I can find "Meath" is actually a fairly modern word. As the name > for Co Meath in Ireland it is an anglicisation of the gaelic 'Mide', the > name given to what is called today the 'Kingdom of Meath' (but known as Mide > at the time). 'Mide' is old irish for middle. Thus Mide (and hence Meath) > means middle, which is reasonable since the actual translation of the > Kingdon of Mide was "The Middle Kingdom".[Various sources] I can find no > other meaning for Meath, ancient or modern. > > By 'fairly modern', I mean the word is less than 400 years old. > > "The English word mead derives from the Old English medu, from > Proto-Germanic meduz."[Wikipedia] > > Mead itself is the oldest known fermented drink, with archaeological > evidence dating back at least 9000 years. > > So the similarity of Meath & Mead is likely just a coincidence. > > cheers, > David > > > >> --- On Tue, 21/9/10, Jeff Lynch wrote: >> >> Question Ted, >> What might the relationship be tween Mead and Meadow? >> jeff >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> List mailing list >> List at tolharndor.org >> http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org >> >> > > > -- > Australian Linedance website of the year: Tamworth 2005,2007,2008,2009 > > http://roots-boots.net mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net > The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for it > to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its > own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies > > > > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at tolharndor.org > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com Wed Sep 22 11:19:23 2010 From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 11:19:23 +1000 Subject: [TolHarndor] Tolkien Seminar In-Reply-To: <659990.3887.qm@web36707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4C970695.1080500@roots-boots.net> <659990.3887.qm@web36707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Love the name of the Orc....Goflinbul....too, tooo much. jeff On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Edwin Scribner wrote: > The "claim that they played golf" no doubt derived from the tale of > Bandobras Took, said to have been the largest hobbit, the only hobbit who > could ride a horse as opposed to a hobbit pony. He was said to have knocked > the head off an orc called Golfimbul, which head then rolled into a rabbit > hole. This was said to have been the beginning of the game of golf. However > there is no indication that the hobbits went on with golf in any form after > this alleged incident. > > --- On Mon, 20/9/10, Marayong wrote: > > > Edwin Scribner wrote: > > At any rate they did have leather. I can see them wanting to kick > something. > > Their vertically challenged stature would seem to suggest otherwise. I've > heard of the claim that they played golf, although whether that is canon or > a scurrilous rumour I can't tell. Perhaps they played some variety of lawn > bowls? Their vertically challenged stature would not be an impediment there. > If they did play some form of football then it would have to of course be > rugby. Not, mind you, that I am a fan of any sport involving teams of > borderline sapient, semi-devolved Homo stupidius throwing and/or kicking a > leather ball around a field whilst doing their best to beat the stuffing out > of each other ... generally members of the opposing team, but not > exclusively so. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at tolharndor.org > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > From mlk at activ8.net.au Thu Sep 23 22:39:31 2010 From: mlk at activ8.net.au (Michael Kennedy) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 22:39:31 +1000 Subject: [TolHarndor] Happy Birthday Bilbo and Frodo In-Reply-To: <154543.57889.qm@web36707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I remembered yesterday while cruising around Toronto (that's Australia, not Canada). Not being in a position to drink anything alcoholic I bought some ginger ale. Fr some reason I think hobbits would be quite impartial to it. > -----Original Message----- > From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list- > bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Edwin Scribner > Sent: Wednesday, 22 September 2010 7:17 AM > To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society > Subject: [TolHarndor] Happy Birthday Bilbo and Frodo > > Emma Ayres, who made mention of the Fall of Sauron on 25 March > (at my behest but she got it a bit wrong) today mentioned the > birthdays of Bilbo and Frodo. I don't know where she got that > information but it's welcome. I might, this evening,?re-badge a > stubby of VB as "Proper 1420" to toast them. > > > > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at tolharndor.org > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com Fri Sep 24 09:32:12 2010 From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 09:32:12 +1000 Subject: [TolHarndor] Happy Birthday Bilbo and Frodo In-Reply-To: References: <154543.57889.qm@web36707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Oh ginger ale may be used to cook lamb chops in...and that is all excepting to have it with Scotch....dat's a fine enow drink I trow....the 'Angry chops' with Dry G....is sweet and luvely. jeff . PS ...where is Toronto? On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:39 PM, Michael Kennedy wrote: > I remembered yesterday while cruising around Toronto (that's Australia, not > Canada). Not being in a position to drink anything alcoholic I bought some > ginger ale. Fr some reason I think hobbits would be quite impartial to it. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list- > > bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Edwin Scribner > > Sent: Wednesday, 22 September 2010 7:17 AM > > To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society > > Subject: [TolHarndor] Happy Birthday Bilbo and Frodo > > > > Emma Ayres, who made mention of the Fall of Sauron on 25 March > > (at my behest but she got it a bit wrong) today mentioned the > > birthdays of Bilbo and Frodo. I don't know where she got that > > information but it's welcome. I might, this evening, re-badge a > > stubby of VB as "Proper 1420" to toast them. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > List mailing list > > List at tolharndor.org > > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at tolharndor.org > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > From krenon at y7mail.com Fri Sep 24 10:27:12 2010 From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 17:27:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [TolHarndor] Happy Birthday Bilbo and Frodo In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <45529.21124.qm@web36701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I would qualify "scotch" with "ordinary or grain whisky" I sincerely hope you *wouldn't* put ginger ale in The Glenlivet, The MacAllan or (greatest sacrilege of all ) Laphroaig. I'll answer that PS question for Michael, or as well as Michael. It's a nice little town on the western shores of beautiful Lake Macquarie, a drowned valley estuary just south of Newcastle. --- On Fri, 24/9/10, Jeff Lynch wrote: Oh ginger ale may be used to cook lamb chops in...and that is all excepting to have it with Scotch....dat's a fine enow drink I trow....the 'Angry chops' with Dry G....is sweet and luvely. jeff . PS ...where is Toronto? From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com Fri Sep 24 15:02:51 2010 From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:02:51 +1000 Subject: [TolHarndor] Happy Birthday Bilbo and Frodo In-Reply-To: <45529.21124.qm@web36701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <45529.21124.qm@web36701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yeah Ted but the lovely Twenty Six Whusky ya do it all the time! jeff Now for the weather report from an ageing reporter in Yarrwonga..on theR. Murray. Here your impatient writer...as I have already mentioned your correspondent has been given a 'reading chance' by one David who is (likely) empployed by publishers Puncher and Wattman...of ?....I hope he is as brave and as sensible as the Biblical one! Any old hows, the Town Hall Clock here strikes (near impossibly) the right hour..I know these chimes since before I was aged five....DO NOT COUNT! Und the bloody weather is bloody damn awfully bloody M and B.......Marvellous and beautiful...the crops are even higher than an elephant's eye...(Ted?) and the sun is as high here as it might be if it was Spring..und it is.... Lake is dead calm and full with spring melt and finrains....these are the finfish rains when you put in the 'e'..or not. Still with me?...goodbye. jeff On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Edwin Scribner wrote: > I would qualify "scotch" with "ordinary or grain whisky" I sincerely hope > you *wouldn't* put ginger ale in The Glenlivet, The MacAllan or (greatest > sacrilege of all ) Laphroaig. > > I'll answer that PS question for Michael, or as well as Michael. It's a > nice little town on the western shores of beautiful Lake Macquarie, a > drowned valley estuary just south of Newcastle. > > --- On Fri, 24/9/10, Jeff Lynch wrote: > > Oh ginger ale may be used to cook lamb chops in...and that is all excepting > to have it with Scotch....dat's a fine enow drink I trow....the 'Angry > chops' with Dry G....is sweet and luvely. > jeff > . > PS ...where is Toronto? > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at tolharndor.org > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > From mlk at activ8.net.au Fri Sep 24 22:01:00 2010 From: mlk at activ8.net.au (Michael Kennedy) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 22:01:00 +1000 Subject: [TolHarndor] Happy Birthday Bilbo and Frodo In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <0C935C988ACF435BAC6A0C886DE13D77@Michael> Toronto is about half an hours drive south from Newcastle. If a town's size can be measured by it's sets of traffic lights then I think I counted three...maybe four. Quaint town...queer name. > -----Original Message----- > From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list- > bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Lynch > Sent: Friday, 24 September 2010 9:32 AM > To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society > Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Happy Birthday Bilbo and Frodo > > Oh ginger ale may be used to cook lamb chops in...and that is > all excepting > to have it with Scotch....dat's a fine enow drink I trow....the > 'Angry > chops' with Dry G....is sweet and luvely. > jeff > . > PS ...where is Toronto? > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:39 PM, Michael Kennedy > wrote: > > > I remembered yesterday while cruising around Toronto (that's > Australia, not > > Canada). Not being in a position to drink anything alcoholic > I bought some > > ginger ale. Fr some reason I think hobbits would be quite > impartial to it. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list- > > > bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Edwin Scribner > > > Sent: Wednesday, 22 September 2010 7:17 AM > > > To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society > > > Subject: [TolHarndor] Happy Birthday Bilbo and Frodo > > > > > > Emma Ayres, who made mention of the Fall of Sauron on 25 > March > > > (at my behest but she got it a bit wrong) today mentioned > the > > > birthdays of Bilbo and Frodo. I don't know where she got > that > > > information but it's welcome. I might, this evening, re- > badge a > > > stubby of VB as "Proper 1420" to toast them. > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > List mailing list > > > List at tolharndor.org > > > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > List mailing list > > List at tolharndor.org > > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > > > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at tolharndor.org > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com Sun Sep 26 09:45:47 2010 From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 09:45:47 +1000 Subject: [TolHarndor] Happy Birthday Bilbo and Frodo In-Reply-To: <0C935C988ACF435BAC6A0C886DE13D77@Michael> References: <0C935C988ACF435BAC6A0C886DE13D77@Michael> Message-ID: Yeah, Toronto...either a Indan(Canadian?) name or the responsibility of friends of the Lone Ranger with a lisp or summthink,..... Just returned from Yarrwonga... DAVID! wake up...when will my cricket story come alive? jeff Do not say it never could....dead already! On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 10:01 PM, Michael Kennedy wrote: > Toronto is about half an hours drive south from Newcastle. If a town's size > can be measured by it's sets of traffic lights then I think I counted > three...maybe four. Quaint town...queer name. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list- > > bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Lynch > > Sent: Friday, 24 September 2010 9:32 AM > > To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society > > Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Happy Birthday Bilbo and Frodo > > > > Oh ginger ale may be used to cook lamb chops in...and that is > > all excepting > > to have it with Scotch....dat's a fine enow drink I trow....the > > 'Angry > > chops' with Dry G....is sweet and luvely. > > jeff > > . > > PS ...where is Toronto? > > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:39 PM, Michael Kennedy > > wrote: > > > > > I remembered yesterday while cruising around Toronto (that's > > Australia, not > > > Canada). Not being in a position to drink anything alcoholic > > I bought some > > > ginger ale. Fr some reason I think hobbits would be quite > > impartial to it. > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: list-bounces at tolharndor.org [mailto:list- > > > > bounces at tolharndor.org] On Behalf Of Edwin Scribner > > > > Sent: Wednesday, 22 September 2010 7:17 AM > > > > To: Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society > > > > Subject: [TolHarndor] Happy Birthday Bilbo and Frodo > > > > > > > > Emma Ayres, who made mention of the Fall of Sauron on 25 > > March > > > > (at my behest but she got it a bit wrong) today mentioned > > the > > > > birthdays of Bilbo and Frodo. I don't know where she got > > that > > > > information but it's welcome. I might, this evening, re- > > badge a > > > > stubby of VB as "Proper 1420" to toast them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > List mailing list > > > > List at tolharndor.org > > > > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > List mailing list > > > List at tolharndor.org > > > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > List mailing list > > List at tolharndor.org > > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at tolharndor.org > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com Tue Sep 28 09:11:59 2010 From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 09:11:59 +1000 Subject: [TolHarndor] Happy Birthday Bilbo and Frodo In-Reply-To: <0C935C988ACF435BAC6A0C886DE13D77@Michael> References: <0C935C988ACF435BAC6A0C886DE13D77@Michael> Message-ID: Hi, Boring bastard on his books.... Printer has sent both the front and back covers (by email) to me...looks really great. Colour of the painting...THE Madlener and the surrounds look super! And a cute idea....an image of a lone man wandering along a forest road...appears on the back along as yet from Puncher and Wattman of Volume Two....Der Berggie....a man called David seems to be looking at it! jeff From dragon at roots-boots.net Tue Sep 28 12:02:39 2010 From: dragon at roots-boots.net (Marayong) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 12:02:39 +1000 Subject: [TolHarndor] Tol Harndor - Paul Frank In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4CA14CBF.7080603@roots-boots.net> Hi all, Our el Presidente has asked to add Paul Frank to the list. Paul was at the seminar so at least some on the list know him already. I'll let Paul introduce himself. cheers, David -- Line dancing, Genealogy, Travel, Photography, Local history & more! http://roots-boots.net mailto:dragon at roots-boots.net The greatest tragedy that could overcome a country would be for it to fight a successful war in defence of liberty and to lose its own liberty in the process" - Robert Menzies From iverindor at gmail.com Tue Sep 28 16:01:57 2010 From: iverindor at gmail.com (Paul Frank) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 16:01:57 +1000 Subject: [TolHarndor] Introducing Paul Frank Message-ID: <2AC4B3AF-54B2-4505-8E40-4DE288D1F2CE@gmail.com> G'day all, Firstly, thanks to Michael and David for getting me set up on the mailing list. The Melbourne Seminar a few weeks back was my first ever Tolkien event. The presenters and papers were brilliant, and it was marvellous to hear so much laughter at a seminar! Now for the quick intro. I came to love the Tolkien canon in my late teens, and always enjoy re-reading his works. If I had to nominate a favourite it would be The Silmarillion. I've been a Tolkien Society member since 2007 and always look forward to the arrival of Amon Hen and Mallorn. Rather ambitiously I've embarked on learning the Eldarin languages; the course-books for Quenya and Sindarin by Thorsten Renk are good starting points. As well as the tongues, the tengwar captivate me and I've tried my hand (and many types of pen) at writing the various modes, but it would be obvious to anyone that mine are of mortal hand - like Bilbo's writing, a little spidery. But all great fun. I'm looking forward to lots more Tol Harndor good fellowship. Fare well, Paul Frank From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com Wed Sep 29 08:58:10 2010 From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 08:58:10 +1000 Subject: [TolHarndor] Introducing Paul Frank In-Reply-To: <2AC4B3AF-54B2-4505-8E40-4DE288D1F2CE@gmail.com> References: <2AC4B3AF-54B2-4505-8E40-4DE288D1F2CE@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Frank, Good that ypu enjoyed a giggle at the TH seminar mate. I'm your Sunnie Brunnie correspondent...Jeff Lynch. I like writing. Welcome..'Hello and Goodye' as Goethe would put it! jeff From jeffreyblynch at gmail.com Wed Sep 29 09:00:01 2010 From: jeffreyblynch at gmail.com (Jeff Lynch) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 09:00:01 +1000 Subject: [TolHarndor] Introducing Paul Frank In-Reply-To: <2AC4B3AF-54B2-4505-8E40-4DE288D1F2CE@gmail.com> References: <2AC4B3AF-54B2-4505-8E40-4DE288D1F2CE@gmail.com> Message-ID: MMM...well Paul..... Frankly I ball's that up...goodbye Frank and hello Paul jeff On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Paul Frank wrote: > G'day all, > > Firstly, thanks to Michael and David for getting me set up on the mailing > list. > > The Melbourne Seminar a few weeks back was my first ever Tolkien event. > The presenters and papers were brilliant, and it was marvellous to hear so > much laughter at a seminar! > > Now for the quick intro. I came to love the Tolkien canon in my late > teens, and always enjoy re-reading his works. If I had to nominate a > favourite it would be The Silmarillion. I've been a Tolkien Society member > since 2007 and always look forward to the arrival of Amon Hen and Mallorn. > > Rather ambitiously I've embarked on learning the Eldarin languages; the > course-books for Quenya and Sindarin by Thorsten Renk are good starting > points. As well as the tongues, the tengwar captivate me and I've tried my > hand (and many types of pen) at writing the various modes, but it would be > obvious to anyone that mine are of mortal hand - like Bilbo's writing, a > little spidery. But all great fun. > > I'm looking forward to lots more Tol Harndor good fellowship. > > Fare well, > > Paul Frank > > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at tolharndor.org > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > From iverindor at gmail.com Wed Sep 29 11:35:40 2010 From: iverindor at gmail.com (Paul Frank) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 11:35:40 +1000 Subject: [TolHarndor] Introducing Paul Frank In-Reply-To: References: <2AC4B3AF-54B2-4505-8E40-4DE288D1F2CE@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks, Jeff, and no worries about the names. I answer to both. Cheers ... Paul On 29/09/2010, at 9:00 AM, Jeff Lynch wrote: MMM...well Paul..... Frankly I ball's that up...goodbye Frank and hello Paul jeff On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Paul Frank wrote: > G'day all, > > Firstly, thanks to Michael and David for getting me set up on the mailing > list. > > The Melbourne Seminar a few weeks back was my first ever Tolkien event. > The presenters and papers were brilliant, and it was marvellous to hear so > much laughter at a seminar! > > Now for the quick intro. I came to love the Tolkien canon in my late > teens, and always enjoy re-reading his works. If I had to nominate a > favourite it would be The Silmarillion. I've been a Tolkien Society member > since 2007 and always look forward to the arrival of Amon Hen and Mallorn. > > Rather ambitiously I've embarked on learning the Eldarin languages; the > course-books for Quenya and Sindarin by Thorsten Renk are good starting > points. As well as the tongues, the tengwar captivate me and I've tried my > hand (and many types of pen) at writing the various modes, but it would be > obvious to anyone that mine are of mortal hand - like Bilbo's writing, a > little spidery. But all great fun. > > I'm looking forward to lots more Tol Harndor good fellowship. > > Fare well, > > Paul Frank > > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at tolharndor.org > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > _______________________________________________ List mailing list List at tolharndor.org http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org From dryad0404 at yahoo.co.uk Wed Sep 29 20:36:36 2010 From: dryad0404 at yahoo.co.uk (dryad) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:36:36 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [TolHarndor] Introducing Paul Frank In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <987019.24282.qm@web24614.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Welcome Paul. It was lovely to meet you at the conference. I did get the other tattoo. Showed it to Ted and Ross (lovely woman!) at AussieCon. I'll have to get some pix to show them. The fellow in NZ did a wonderful job on it. Elise --- On Tue, 28/9/10, Jeff Lynch wrote: From: Jeff Lynch Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Introducing Paul Frank To: "Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society" Date: Tuesday, 28 September, 2010, 19:00 MMM...well Paul..... Frankly I ball's that up...goodbye Frank and hello Paul jeff On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Paul Frank wrote: > G'day all, > > Firstly, thanks to Michael and David for getting me set up on the mailing > list. > > The Melbourne Seminar a few weeks back was my first ever Tolkien event. >? The presenters and papers were brilliant, and it was marvellous to hear so > much laughter at a seminar! > > Now for the quick intro.? I came to love the Tolkien canon in my late > teens, and always enjoy re-reading his works.? If I had to nominate a > favourite it would be The Silmarillion.? I've been a Tolkien Society member > since 2007 and always look forward to the arrival of Amon Hen and Mallorn. > > Rather ambitiously I've embarked on learning the Eldarin languages; the > course-books for Quenya and Sindarin by Thorsten Renk are good starting > points.? As well as the tongues, the tengwar captivate me and I've tried my > hand (and many types of pen) at writing the various modes, but it would be > obvious to anyone that mine are of mortal hand - like Bilbo's writing, a > little spidery.? But all great fun. > > I'm looking forward to lots more Tol Harndor good fellowship. > > Fare well, > > Paul? Frank > > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at tolharndor.org > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > _______________________________________________ List mailing list List at tolharndor.org http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org From iverindor at gmail.com Thu Sep 30 12:21:46 2010 From: iverindor at gmail.com (Paul Frank) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:21:46 +1000 Subject: [TolHarndor] Introducing Paul Frank In-Reply-To: <987019.24282.qm@web24614.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <987019.24282.qm@web24614.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thanks Elise, I'm glad the tattooing went well. Our Kiwi friends are masters of the art. And if you can manage a photo, yes please! Cuio vae ... Paul On 29/09/2010, at 8:36 PM, dryad wrote: Welcome Paul. It was lovely to meet you at the conference. I did get the other tattoo. Showed it to Ted and Ross (lovely woman!) at AussieCon. I'll have to get some pix to show them. The fellow in NZ did a wonderful job on it. Elise --- On Tue, 28/9/10, Jeff Lynch wrote: From: Jeff Lynch Subject: Re: [TolHarndor] Introducing Paul Frank To: "Tol Harndor - Australian Tolkien Society" Date: Tuesday, 28 September, 2010, 19:00 MMM...well Paul..... Frankly I ball's that up...goodbye Frank and hello Paul jeff On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Paul Frank wrote: > G'day all, > > Firstly, thanks to Michael and David for getting me set up on the mailing > list. > > The Melbourne Seminar a few weeks back was my first ever Tolkien event. > The presenters and papers were brilliant, and it was marvellous to hear so > much laughter at a seminar! > > Now for the quick intro. I came to love the Tolkien canon in my late > teens, and always enjoy re-reading his works. If I had to nominate a > favourite it would be The Silmarillion. I've been a Tolkien Society member > since 2007 and always look forward to the arrival of Amon Hen and Mallorn. > > Rather ambitiously I've embarked on learning the Eldarin languages; the > course-books for Quenya and Sindarin by Thorsten Renk are good starting > points. As well as the tongues, the tengwar captivate me and I've tried my > hand (and many types of pen) at writing the various modes, but it would be > obvious to anyone that mine are of mortal hand - like Bilbo's writing, a > little spidery. But all great fun. > > I'm looking forward to lots more Tol Harndor good fellowship. > > Fare well, > > Paul Frank > > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at tolharndor.org > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > _______________________________________________ List mailing list List at tolharndor.org http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org _______________________________________________ List mailing list List at tolharndor.org http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org From mlk at activ8.net.au Thu Sep 30 18:17:33 2010 From: mlk at activ8.net.au (Michael Kennedy) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 18:17:33 +1000 Subject: [TolHarndor] Introducing Paul Frank In-Reply-To: <2AC4B3AF-54B2-4505-8E40-4DE288D1F2CE@gmail.com> References: <2AC4B3AF-54B2-4505-8E40-4DE288D1F2CE@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20100930181733.v43i0mfz4kws0g84@webmail.activ8.net.au> Hi All, Welcome again Paul! I don't believe I've met anyone before now who has tried their hand at penning the tengwar. I can hardly remember cursive writing any more so I might just leave that to the more artistically inclined members. I'm currently in Auckland where I have been all week. Much of the news has centered around the Hobbit movie, with the actors threatening to boycott it unless they are paid fairly. Should orcs be paid a minimum wage? Michael Quoting Paul Frank : > G'day all, > > Firstly, thanks to Michael and David for getting me set up on the? > mailing list. > > The Melbourne Seminar a few weeks back was my first ever Tolkien? > event.? The presenters and papers were brilliant, and it was? > marvellous to hear so much laughter at a seminar! > > Now for the quick intro.? I came to love the Tolkien canon in my? > late teens, and always enjoy re-reading his works.? If I had to? > nominate a favourite it would be The Silmarillion.? I've been a? > Tolkien Society member since 2007 and always look forward to the? > arrival of Amon Hen and Mallorn. > > Rather ambitiously I've embarked on learning the Eldarin languages;? > the course-books for Quenya and Sindarin by Thorsten Renk are good? > starting points.? As well as the tongues, the tengwar captivate me? > and I've tried my hand (and many types of pen) at writing the? > various modes, but it would be obvious to anyone that mine are of? > mortal hand - like Bilbo's writing, a little spidery.? But all > great? fun. > > I'm looking forward to lots more Tol Harndor good fellowship. > > Fare well, > > Paul? Frank > > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at tolharndor.org > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org[1] > Links: ------ [1] http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org From graham.mcarthur at me.com Thu Sep 30 19:28:59 2010 From: graham.mcarthur at me.com (Graham McArthur) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 18:58:59 +0930 Subject: [TolHarndor] Introducing Paul Frank In-Reply-To: <20100930181733.v43i0mfz4kws0g84@webmail.activ8.net.au> References: <2AC4B3AF-54B2-4505-8E40-4DE288D1F2CE@gmail.com> <20100930181733.v43i0mfz4kws0g84@webmail.activ8.net.au> Message-ID: <79CFF6CC-E5BC-41D5-AD22-D6F730F1BAC0@me.com> Hi Paul, Welcome to the group. You will find it fun for sure. I don't post very often but I do follow the conversations. Good to see you have an interest in Tengwar. I have taught the hand at workshops in SA Tas & Vic. Have fun Graham McArthur On 30/09/2010, at 5:47 PM, Michael Kennedy wrote: > > > Hi All, > > Welcome again Paul! > > I don't believe I've met anyone before now who has tried their hand at penning the tengwar. I can hardly remember cursive writing any more so I might just leave that to the more artistically inclined members. > > I'm currently in Auckland where I have been all week. Much of the news has centered around the Hobbit movie, with the actors threatening to boycott it unless they are paid fairly. Should orcs be paid a minimum wage? > > Michael > > Quoting Paul Frank : > >> G'day all, >> >> Firstly, thanks to Michael and David for getting me set up on the mailing list. >> >> The Melbourne Seminar a few weeks back was my first ever Tolkien event. The presenters and papers were brilliant, and it was marvellous to hear so much laughter at a seminar! >> >> Now for the quick intro. I came to love the Tolkien canon in my late teens, and always enjoy re-reading his works. If I had to nominate a favourite it would be The Silmarillion. I've been a Tolkien Society member since 2007 and always look forward to the arrival of Amon Hen and Mallorn. >> >> Rather ambitiously I've embarked on learning the Eldarin languages; the course-books for Quenya and Sindarin by Thorsten Renk are good starting points. As well as the tongues, the tengwar captivate me and I've tried my hand (and many types of pen) at writing the various modes, but it would be obvious to anyone that mine are of mortal hand - like Bilbo's writing, a little spidery. But all great fun. >> >> I'm looking forward to lots more Tol Harndor good fellowship. >> >> Fare well, >> >> Paul Frank >> >> _______________________________________________ >> List mailing list >> List at tolharndor.org >> http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org[1] >> > > > Links: > ------ > [1] http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org > > _______________________________________________ > List mailing list > List at tolharndor.org > http://tolharndor.org/mailman/listinfo/list_tolharndor.org From krenon at y7mail.com Thu Sep 30 20:14:52 2010 From: krenon at y7mail.com (Edwin Scribner) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 03:14:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [TolHarndor] Introducing Paul Frank In-Reply-To: <987019.24282.qm@web24614.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <74280.57786.qm@web36701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thank you, Elise, and I'm sure that Ros (sic - real name Roslyn) appreciates it too. --- On Wed, 29/9/10, dryad wrote: Welcome Paul. It was lovely to meet you at the conference. I did get the other tattoo. Showed it to Ted and Ross (lovely woman!) at AussieCon. I'll have to get some pix to show them. The fellow in NZ did a wonderful job on it. Elise